kxjay 3,543 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Public service announcement Lately...or more so, for the past however many years, there are been plenty of vocal individuals who have voiced their displeasure with the exclusion of SEA idols in the Kpop industry. But let me ask you this, why do you think Kpop is called Kpop? And not Asian Pop? There is absolutely no need for any Kpop company to go out of their way trying to acquire SEA individuals to process and mold them into Kpop idols. Yes, there are quite a few now but mostly originating from Thailand. But for the people wanting Cambodians, Vietnamese, Laotians or Filipinos is not something of a mandatory concern for Kpop companies. And it shouldn't be. And neither are Chinese and/or Japanese trainees. But guess what? The Japanese market is one of the biggest in the world and the Chinese market is a literal goldmine! That is NOT something you can say for most (if not all) SEA countries. I just wanna say that I am part-Filipino so I may somewhat understand these people's sentiments or feelings of being excluded from a very lucrative industry. But again, Kpop has done impeccably well without the inclusion of these certain ethnic backgrounds. They should not be made to feel that that's something they should be mandated to do. This is basically the same as adding water to your favorite soda. It'll become diluted and not taste the same way. Same as having majority SEA trainees as Kpop idols. It's just not right. With them being the minority right now is preferable and ideal. So yeah, Kpop is called Korean pop for a reason. Do you guys agree? Share and discuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regality 955 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 I agree, they shouldn't have to if they don't want to especially since it's Korean pop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whistle 49 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 you're right it's getting tiring when people complain about it all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kw_ 8,023 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Who said they're required lol? It's just that one of their biggest audiences would like seeing themselves represented, but nobody said it was a requirement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
night vale. 8,071 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Again, OHers screaming into the void cause when has this ever been said on this forum Who said they're required lol? It's just that one of their biggest audiences would like seeing themselves represented, but nobody said it was a requirement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noon 20,968 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 where is this coming from. i agree that kpop is not required to have SEA trainees (or any foreign trainees at all) but isn't kpop big in SEA and dying in japan? If a company plays their cards right they could open up a new market (rather than scrambling for Japanese trainees, bc really that's what J-trainees are for, to appeal to that market). Having SEA members isn't a requirement but it would be a damn good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam.4kj 317 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 I feel like if they are gonna have trainees in from Thailand they should also audition trainees from the Philippines cause it's not much of a difference. Thats a wish of mine tho I doubt they would cause of the xenophobia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gosenshii 3,054 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 where is this coming from. i agree that kpop is not required to have SEA trainees (or any foreign trainees at all but isn't kpop big in SEA and dying in japan? If a company plays their cards right they could open up a new market (rather than scrambling for Japanese trainees, bc really that's what J-trainees are for, to appeal to that market). Having SEA members isn't a requirement but it would be a damn good idea. but SEA music market is not big lol and in Japan popular groups can go on dome tour and it brings lots of money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC3 3,339 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 where is this coming from. i agree that kpop is not required to have SEA trainees (or any foreign trainees at all) but isn't kpop big in SEA and dying in japan? If a company plays their cards right they could open up a new market (rather than scrambling for Japanese trainees, bc really that's what J-trainees are for, to appeal to that market). Having SEA members isn't a requirement but it would be a damn good idea. Japan is the second largest music market in the world. Kpop companies make more money in Japan even with hallyu dying there than they would probably make in SEA. Money talks and in this case money is calling them to China and Japan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kxjay 3,543 Posted June 17, 2016 Author Share Posted June 17, 2016 where is this coming from. i agree that kpop is not required to have SEA trainees (or any foreign trainees at all) but isn't kpop big in SEA and dying in japan? If a company plays their cards right they could open up a new market (rather than scrambling for Japanese trainees, bc really that's what J-trainees are for, to appeal to that market). Having SEA members isn't a requirement but it would be a damn good idea. It's not necessarily something that just popped out of nowhere, throughout my 5 years as a Kpop fan, this sort of notion has been more so sporadic in movement....like little droplets into a pond. Here and there basically. But yes, it can be something beneficial. And yes, possibly something the Kpop industry might just need a change on. But I've seen plenty of people who have voiced their displeasure of their countries not being represented in Kpop. That's just what I'm trying to get at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsmee 2,656 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 I kind of get where you are coming from, and a while ago I would totally agree with you but kpop is the only way for some asians to get a media representation. You have no idea how many stories I read from Asians who were very happy when they discovered kpop because they finally had a representation they could finally be represented as desired, attractive, cool Like us white and even black people can see that representation in Hollywood more or less but for a lot of asians kpop are their representation so imagine how SEA feel having no representation nowhere, it must feel pretty shitty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joga 1,315 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 where is this coming from. i agree that kpop is not required to have SEA trainees (or any foreign trainees at all) but isn't kpop big in SEA and dying in japan? If a company plays their cards right they could open up a new market (rather than scrambling for Japanese trainees, bc really that's what J-trainees are for, to appeal to that market). Having SEA members isn't a requirement but it would be a damn good idea. There are probably five times as many Chinese/SEA idols than there are Japanese idols. Which is weird, because kpop has earned tons of money from Japan for years. I don't think where the trainees come from make that much of a difference to the fans tbh, especially in EA. Otherwise they would just listen to their domestic singers and not Korean ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakurahanabira 6,634 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 of course Kpop companies are not required to have SEA trainees, but it'd be nice if they'd look to other SEA countries too when recruiting international trainees instead of just Thailand. Thailand seems to be the only country that Kpop companies ever go to to recruit SEA trainees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aearom 1,071 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 I don't see why they would be obligated to have trainees from other countries when the industry is so competitive for talent from South Korea itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_apologize 714 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 This come of abit racist. You know even One Direction Zayn has pakistan blood in him, we don't see Britain goes "Brit-pop are called Brit-pop for a reason". 2ndly, more than 50% of the fans are SEA fans. So it doesn't hurt to expand the to territory. If we can have Twice Sana who is Japanese, why can't we have NCT U Ten who is Thailand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkrat 5,683 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 true Are SEA from Asia asking for these SEA trainees elsewhere or just SEA from the West asking for it on Onehallyu? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Is Here 979 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 It doesn't really matter where they come from so long as they have talent (or are hot since that seems to be important nowadays.) I agree though, it's not an obligation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mischo 7,462 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 I think it's because many see kpop as an international asian genre because kpop artists, although they sing in South Korean, has gained massive popularity through (eastern) Asia. They also travel in lots of countries sometimes they have more activites outside SK than in the country. I mean, you can already see the biggest 3 companies - JYP with Twice, SM with NCT and YG with new girl group - how international it has become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hikaruaxi 1,243 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 It's not required of course but it is nice to have them. This come of abit racist. You know even One Direction Zayn has pakistan blood in him, we don't see Britain goes "Brit-pop are called Brit-pop for a reason". 2ndly, more than 50% of the fans are SEA fans. So it doesn't hurt to expand the to territory. If we can have Twice Sana who is Japanese, why can't we have NCT U Ten who is Thailand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kxjay 3,543 Posted June 17, 2016 Author Share Posted June 17, 2016 This come of abit racist. You know even One Direction Zayn has pakistan blood in him, we don't see Britain goes "Brit-pop are called Brit-pop for a reason". 2ndly, more than 50% of the fans are SEA fans. So it doesn't hurt to expand the to territory. If we can have Twice Sana who is Japanese, why can't we have NCT U Ten who is Thailand? You can't really be serious with comparison can you? The West is a literal melting pot of people of different backgrounds. The same does not apply to many Asian countries (mainly East Asia)And yeah, maybe 50% of fans ARE from SEA. But they get most of their revenue and income from China and Japan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technicolor 52 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Kpop in SEA is big, but companies can earn double, triple amounts of money in Japan or China, so of course they will focus on those. Besides, koreans' bias against SEA people plays an important role here, it's not that easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyanna 2,986 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Um.. nobody says kpop companies MUST have SEA trainees. It's just that, dont you sometimes wonder why there are trainees from china, japan, and thailand, but none from other asian countries? I mean, there are lots of indonesians, vietnamese, malaysians, etc with chinese ethnicity (which means they pretty much look like koreans). How come we're only seeing thais in the industry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_apologize 714 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 You can't really be serious with comparison can you? The West is a literal melting pot of people of different backgrounds. The same does not apply to many Asian countries (mainly East Asia) And yeah, maybe 50% of fans ARE from SEA. But they get most of their revenue and income from China and Japan. Yeah but it was SEA fans who promote Kpop, look at NCT Thailand fanmaster, i mean every the Kpop fanmasters are either Koreans or SEA. Never saw China or Japanese fanmasters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgt_flex 29 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 there are a huge number of fans in sea, and trainees from there are super talented. a diverse group has a cosmopolitan image, greater international credibility, and also grants more flexibility for concepts. it would be smart to include sea members, in other words. but nobody is required to be smart, kpop companies included. they are actually better at being dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kxjay 3,543 Posted June 17, 2016 Author Share Posted June 17, 2016 Yeah but it was SEA fans who promote Kpop, look at NCT Thailand fanmaster, i mean every the Kpop fanmasters are either Koreans or SEA. Never saw China or Japanese fanmasters. That doesn't mean much if most of the income the companies and idols get come from China and Japan. It is still a business at the end of the day. Not some humanitarian charity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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