tropicamong 24,752 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 TRANSLATION: We will notice about 6/5(sunday) 12:10 broadcasting <Park concert in Daegu>. Winner was on actual performance, but by contract with request of YG, Winner's performance will not be on broadcast. trans by: @Enlightenme_mh they were the last/main act. btw. Leehi's was aired. looks like a fancam is all we gonna get unless this pops in a DVD in the near future. I called it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_apologize 714 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 edit: re-writing my comments after watching the actual performance. zzz it happens to Seventeen "Pretty U" too (MBC Show Champion) because it looks like Seventeen's "Pretty U" choreography is a mess after MBC did not provide Seventeen their prop sofa (so MBC only air their stage) MBC just usually don't air performance if you don't do sync choreography. Winner did not do sync choreography, so it's normal that MBC will not air it. It has nothing to do with being in YG. Winner was just walking around while singing. MBC usually will not air footage like this. If they air it, then they should have aired Seventeen's footage and other idol's footage that did not do choreo correctly too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor Mars 1,981 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Why does he hate winner so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bâ„“aster 3,312 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 YG hasn't realized his mistake. This will only make Winner flop harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nalyd 2,299 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 After reading pages and pages of the thread about a certain fansite/Winner-antis, this is what I read next? Fuck YG, seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngjeezy 776 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Why does he hate winner so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HugeBoi Minos Wife 40,568 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Idols leaving SM get blocked. Under YG you dont have to leave to be blocked, its happening right during your stay in this lovely agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selectsupport 13,613 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sora ✾ 2,883 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 I'm so tired of this. Literally almost everything Winner is restricted...From dance practices, to BTS clips (just one BTS for EXIT tour when they had five domestic concerts), to TV performances... You would think they would want Winner to have as much exposure as possible but YG does almost everything to prevent that?? Literally the only good thing YG has done right for Winner this year is Half-Moon Friends, and it didn't happen until AFTER Exit: E promotions had ended. And it doesn't seem like they will take advantage of the current hype anyway (with no signs of comeback right now). I try so hard to understand this company's thought process but I fail to make sense of it. I hope there's a proper explanation for this but, with Hayi's performance being broadcasted, I doubt there is one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Cool Name 1,033 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Under YG you dont have to leave to be blocked, its happening right during your stay in this lovely agency. This hits me so hard wtf No amount of criticism and complaints have been changing YG's mind I just..... Does he even take feedback smh??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HugeBoi Minos Wife 40,568 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 YG hasn't realized his mistake. This will only make Winner flop harder. Winner didnt flop, what are you on about? I guess having over 1 mill DLs, 75k+ albums sold and #2 boy group digitally this year (after Block B) is a flop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropicamong 24,752 Posted June 5, 2016 Author Share Posted June 5, 2016 I will not be surprised if this shows up in some DVD. I mean come on. During debut YG freakin took down their Melon Awards performance video asap after they were uploaded on YT because he wanted to put them in the DVD. Who does that? That was some next level shit. Like he was willing to reduce winner's exposure to people and fans just to stick their performance vids in DVDs to make money. He does the same crap with their BTS and dance practice vids. I AM SO DONE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburn 90 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Goddammit YG not again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itouch 9,190 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Whinners don't make a big deal out of every decisions YG makes. You don't see Ikonics making a huge fuss about not performing their comeback on music shows. yg wants winner to be exclusive artists. Deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRBL.Mood 411 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 LOL what's wrong with YG lately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nalyd 2,299 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Whinners don't make a big deal out of every decisions YG makes. You don't see Ikonics making a huge fuss about not performing their comeback on music shows. yg wants winner to be exclusive artists. Deal with it. Fans complain in general. You deal with it, troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Panda 321 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Idols leaving SM get blocked. Under YG you dont have to leave to be blocked, its happening right during your stay in this lovely agency. Obviously it's a 2-for-1 deal: - Be part of the Big 3 - Experience all the shitty conditions and hardships as though you're part of a non-Big 3 company anyway Whinners don't make a big deal out of every decisions YG makes. You don't see Ikonics making a huge fuss about not performing their comeback on music shows. yg wants winner to be exclusive artists. Deal with it. Your trolling's not really working, next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHenchanted 4,704 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 incles legit have to pay for everything smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Oppa 1,155 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Winner didnt flop, what are you on about? I guess having over 1 mill DLs, 75k+ albums sold and #2 boy group digitally this year (after Block B) is a flop? I'm pretty sure the only reason why this can be considered a flop is because they would've done extremely better if they were managed properly, it's not winner who flopped, the management they were given to them flopped, so much potential for the title tracks here to be chart toppers at the end of the year, sadly, when you think about january comebacks you think g-friend as a successful track since not only did they sell like winner, they had a chance to take advantage of it, winner kinda disappeared for a while for me and I never heard about them until bandal friends... I'm not an incle but I really don't like groups who fail to do their best because of their own management, I really hope some things change or else you we may see winner labeled as one of the successful groups ruined by their own company (joining the likes of groups like miss a and others) in the near future... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HugeBoi Minos Wife 40,568 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Whinners don't make a big deal out of every decisions YG makes. You don't see Ikonics making a huge fuss about not performing their comeback on music shows. yg wants winner to be exclusive artists. Deal with it. How about you deal with us complaining? It wouldnt really matter since we are WHINNERS...so why give a fuck? Obviously it's a 2-for-1 deal: - Be part of the Big 3 - Experience all the shitty conditions and hardships as though you're part of a non-Big 3 company anyway I wish I could agree with you but then you got SM and JYP giving the "basics" to their rookies and promoting them to the max (as they should) so no, YG is just shitty. Winner debuted the same year as Got7 and RV but their discography is almost nothing compared to their peers. Not even gonna talk about the giant gap in their promotions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HugeBoi Minos Wife 40,568 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 I'm pretty sure the only reason why this can be considered a flop is because they would've done extremely better if they were managed properly, it's not winner who flopped, the management they were given to them flopped, so much potential for the title tracks here to be chart toppers at the end of the year, sadly, when you think about january comebacks you think g-friend as a successful track since not only did they sell like winner, they had a chance to take advantage of it, winner kinda disappeared for a while for me and I never heard about them until bandal friends... I'm not an incle but I really don't like groups who fail to do their best because of their own management, I really hope some things change or else you we may see winner labeled as one of the successful groups ruined by their own company (joining the likes of groups like miss a and others) in the near future... l disagree. A flop is a flop, there is no other way to twist it. Winner underperformed meaning they did well but it wasnt as explosive as their debut. Digitally they are still the 2nd boy group for the first quarter of 2016, their tour sold out, they got decent physicals and they came back after a 1.5 year hiatus so no, flop definitely doesnt apply here. YG management just sucks I agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Panda 321 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 I wish I could agree with you but then you got SM and JYP giving the "basics" to their rookies and promoting them to the max (as they should) so no, YG is just shitty. Winner debuted the same year as Got7 and RV but their discography is almost nothing compared to their peers. Not even gonna talk about the giant gap in their promotions. That's true, YG's honestly a pretty shit company by itself... Their problem is more in underworking their employees than overworking them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpop fans hate truth 975 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Whatever it is when yg make your bias comeback, you will make yg gain a lot of money and yg will continue the same shitt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keskia 181 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 I'm so tired of this. Literally almost everything Winner is restricted...From dance practices, to BTS clips (just one BTS for EXIT tour when they had five domestic concerts), to TV performances... You would think they would want Winner to have as much exposure as possible but YG does almost everything to prevent that?? Literally the only good thing YG has done right for Winner this year is Half-Moon Friends, and it didn't happen until AFTER Exit: E promotions had ended. And it doesn't seem like they will take advantage of the current hype anyway (with no signs of comeback right now). I try so hard to understand this company's thought process but I fail to make sense of it. I hope there's a proper explanation for this but, with Hayi's performance being broadcasted, I doubt there is one. Winner concept is being exclusive. Their fandom has an access that other people dont (which is why theyre called inner circle) and in the same way Louis Vuitton is expensive and only a few people can get a handbag, Winner is supposed to keep their aura of mystery I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regal 1,195 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 edit: re-writing my comments after watching the actual performance. zzz it happens to Seventeen "Pretty U" too (MBC Show Champion) because it looks like Seventeen's "Pretty U" choreography is a mess after MBC did not provide Seventeen their prop sofa (so MBC only air their stage) MBC just usually don't air performance if you don't do sync choreography. Winner did not do sync choreography, so it's normal that MBC will not air it. It has nothing to do with being in YG. Winner was just walking around while singing. MBC usually will not air footage like this. If they air it, then they should have aired Seventeen's footage and other idol's footage that did not do choreo correctly too. It's a different case for Seventeen. MBC actually aired the performance for Pretty U. They basically just performed under the rain that time for the sake of the live audience. Hence, the "messy" choreo. On the other hand, Winner's performance was not aired at all. This reminds me of Junsu's case though. He was used for promotion (he was the last act too) but when it was already his turn, cameras stopped rolling. The difference is that the one restricting Junsu was not his agency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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