Substation 1,388 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I don't think this only happens on Netizen Buzz. What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abra 40,910 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 This isn't racist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Substation 1,388 Posted November 20, 2013 Author Share Posted November 20, 2013 This isn't racist Then what is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
المروة 745 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 This isn't racist yes it is, for fucks sake you people seem to stick on a "but that's not racist" everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimchi 19,921 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Japanese and Korean's aren't separate races though, they're nationalities. It's more extreme nationalism or some shit like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krystal Meth 11,336 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Not any different from some J-music elites around here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo's Candy Jelly Ho 3,458 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Lol @ people not getting what smallsignal was trying to say/prove with the black comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius 8,485 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I think that comment was referring to the Korean music industry. It's inferior to the Japanese one hence why all the Western acts prefer going there. (and to answer that comment: J-general public actually buy music and don't pirate it on large scale or pay $0.03 for each song. Western acts wouldn't come to Korean music shows even if they were paid to lol.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elisa 1,353 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Ugh what a mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abra 40,910 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Then what is it? It's a dig. Saying the Japanese do things better than Koreans. And probably about how Korean people (generalization obv) don't want to admit that the Japanese are better than them in something, in this case getting more recognized international artists to their shows. yes it is, for fucks sake you people seem to stick on a "but that's not racist" everywhere. How is it? It's not like the comment says that the Japanese people is genetically superior. It's a comment about what they have achieved. It has nothing to do with race or genes, but all to do with achievements and global influence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimeele 2,401 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I just saw that. The arguments people get into on the internet still baffles me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimSimi 503 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Selective PC is nothing new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iljin Prince 904 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Korean music industry. It's inferior to the Japanese one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandilinn 7,814 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Not any different from some J-music elites around here No one here would say something that stupid. I think you're thinking of Arama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
المروة 745 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 How is it? It's not like the comment says that the Japanese people is genetically superior. It's a comment about what they have achieved. It has nothing to do with race or genes, but all to do with achievements and global influence. Firstly the idiot person who posted the comment didn't say that they were inferior in achievements or global influence or whatever you think so that comment can be interpreted in many ways. It is saying that the people of one country are inferior, less than compared to another and you might want to look it up because racism doesn't only mean the colour of somebody's skin it also expands to a person's ethnicity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krystal Meth 11,336 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 No one here would say something that stupid. I think you're thinking of Arama. I didn't mean in terms of racism but more like putting down Korean music industry every chance they get and acting like they listen to the best music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtninjago 2,190 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 And it started over because Paris Hilton was invited? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Substation 1,388 Posted November 20, 2013 Author Share Posted November 20, 2013 Japanese and Korean's aren't separate races though, they're nationalities. It's more extreme nationalism or some shit like that. I don't know if there is a term like ethnicitism or something like that but I believe it's essentially the same idea as racism. It's a dig. Saying the Japanese do things better than Koreans. And probably about how Korean people (generalization obv) don't want to admit that the Japanese are better than them in something, in this case getting more recognized international artists to their shows. How is it? It's not like the comment says that the Japanese people is genetically superior. It's a comment about what they have achieved. It has nothing to do with race or genes, but all to do with achievements and global influence. It seems you are kindly trying to understand the unkind comment, reading between the lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midnightdreams 810 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 And it started over because Paris Hilton was invited? Knetz is right, she brought some class to NB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amber oppa 20,208 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Paris Hilton > One Direction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abra 40,910 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Firstly the idiot person who posted the comment didn't say that they were inferior in achievements or global influence or whatever you think so that comment can be interpreted in many ways. It is saying that the people of one country are inferior, less than compared to another and you might want to look it up because racism doesn't only mean the colour of somebody's skin it also expands to a person's ethnicity. I know that much. But the context pretty much makes it obvious that they are referring to achievements and importance. Basically saying: Koreans will never admit when the Japanese do better than them. It was said in an antagonizing way but that doesn't make it racist. As you say it can be interpreted in many ways but the context is obvious in this case. The poster never said they were generally inferior, just that the Koreans didn't want to admit it when the Japanese do things/are better. Sure, you can say that it's racist, but that's just your interpretation of a post that can be seen in many different ways. And I'd say it's far from the most likely one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgl 5,919 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Japanese and Korean's aren't separate races though, they're nationalities. It's more extreme nationalism or some shit like that. I think that comment was referring to the Korean music industry. It's inferior to the Japanese one hence why all the Western acts prefer going there. (and to answer that comment: J-general public actually buy music and don't pirate it on large scale or pay $0.03 for each song. Western acts wouldn't come to Korean music shows even if they were paid to lol.) These are the correct answers. /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sane 16,342 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Japanese and Korean's aren't separate races though, they're nationalities. It's more extreme nationalism or some shit like that. They consider themselves to be different races. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayNight 662 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 This is why I don't like NB. That comment was translated needs some clarification. I'll just copy and paste since someone else has done the work "The original Korean comment was 오패리스ížíŠ¼.. í´ë¼ìŠ¤ë³´ì†¡.. Yes, the sentence has the word "class" in it. But the pattern 오~보소 is actually used to make fun of the given situation these days thanks to Ilbe -_- So the comment was probably written by an ilbe bug to mock Paris Hilton and MAMA" This is why I hate NB and think that it is a curse really more than a blessing. First, she has made translation errors before and, even when others point it out, she's never made any corrections. Second, the articles she picks are bound to be filled with a lot of negative comments and yet people think that this is representative of Korea. Even with disclaimers like "Just a friendly reminder... Comments on this blog do not represent the majority opinion of Koreans and should not be taken as an example of Korean sentiment on any of the topics presented. They are just one facet, one view of the many different views that exist. Please read the FAQ for more info." You get bunch of juveniles who take it seriously and actually start writing like those stupid netizens who really represent a small subset of population. Actually, it's more like subset of subsets since these entertainment news tend to attract certain segment of the population and even then, of those who comment, it's only subset of those. I can only say that I can see why Korea may view NB as anti Korean and pro Japanese. And, yes, that comment is racist. Just in case people need reminders on what racism is, here's a definition for you "noun 1. a person who believes that a particular race is superior to another. synonyms: racial bigot, racialist, xenophobe, chauvinist, supremacist "he was exposed as a racist" (racially) discriminatory, racialist, prejudiced, bigoted "a racist society" adjective 1. having or showing the belief that a particular race is superior to another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Substation 1,388 Posted November 20, 2013 Author Share Posted November 20, 2013 I know that much. But the context pretty much makes it obvious that they are referring to achievements and importance. Basically saying: Koreans will never admit when the Japanese do better than them. It was said in an antagonizing way but that doesn't make it racist. As you say it can be interpreted in many ways but the context is obvious in this case. The poster never said they were generally inferior, just that the Koreans didn't want to admit it when the Japanese do things/are better. Sure, you can say that it's racist, but that's just your interpretation of a post that can be seen in many different ways. And I'd say it's far from the most likely one. That is a possible intention of the commenter but it should've been worded much differently. In the end, the comment does sound blunt and insensitive, which requires each reader's kind understanding. I might add that what's interesting is that such comments are easily up voted on Netizen Buzz by a large number. They consider themselves to be different races. Technically they are different ethnicities of the same race but I think you are right that how they view themselves separately is similar to how races are viewed in multiracial countries. In addition, it seems in ethnically homogeneous countries like Japan and Korea, their ethnic identity effectively overlaps with their national identity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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