-SoneHeart- 13,769 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 CL has never dissed or belittled Asian woman in an interview. (Paper magazines and debates deleted.) A blogger saw CL’s racist online speech and wanted to find out the details, so now the words she uploaded is surfacing and spreading all around.If you want to read part of her original words, just click into the link.There was an overwhelmed controversy about CL’s speech in an interview with an American paper magazine last year.Question: Is Korea a major force in luxury?CL: I think a lot of the young kids right now are looking for something new,and they want to look different. Especially girls, and this is why I'm trying to come out here, to set an example of an Asian girl. A lot of Asian girls love being basic because it's safe. But the thing is, a lot of my fans are those girls, and they want to be bolder, but there's no one they could look up to and be like, “It's OK to be that way.†There's no one out here who will do that, and I feel like I have done enough for Asia and changed a lot of girls. Even if it's a phone case, they try. Girls in Asia are very obedient, shy, timid, quiet, but I can tell that it's changing, and I want them to be stronger and tell them that it's OK to be different. Being special is a luxury, and I don't think we have that yet.CL’s words were wrongly quoted and completely misinterpreted by the paper magazine.Even though I already knew this breathtaking truth since last year, I firmly believed CL would explain this controversy caused by her own words at the right time; my idea was to wait calmly for CL to cope and the truth will be revealed one day. So whenever all the community and articles publish news related to CL, leading to talks about her “Asian Girl Strike†interview without delay, and even if she received sarcastic remarks and mutilations, I quietly kept my mouth shut and just watched.However, even if I can explain for her with my mouth, “It’s not the truth,†the awaited person of the controversy cannot explain herself since the controversy broke out six months after until now. As a celebrity, CL’s image and situation is constantly being undermined by mismanagement.If we should just wait for CL’s official statement, CL, and her sister will be subjected to even more undeserving hatred and mockery from public due to accusations of something that she did not do. Hence after much considerations an overseas fan reveals the truth he/she heard from CL’s current manager in the US, Dan. 18 June 2015, CL and her manager Dan at her autograph session after LA Dodger’s first pitch. One of CL’s international fans uses a particular software and is able to send and receive direct messages on Twitter to CL’s manager.Like many of CL’s fans, this fan felt a weird vibe after reading Cl’s paper magazine interview and at Turkey’s time of last year’ September 2, 10:31am, this fan sent the following direct message to Dan (Twitter ID @koreantomcruise). “Can I just ask what the hell went wrong in the paper magazine interview? CL has talked about the whole Asian model thing so so many times before but it had never been worded like this. Are these her words or did the journalist write down his/her own words? That quote makes it seem like she’s generalising an entire group of people which is wrong and everything she’s against. She’s getting a ton of hate for it both internationally and in Korea and she doesn’t need that right now. So please, if you can do something. You trying to clarify it has no use because they’re her words.†Above is a fan’s capture of Dan’s reply at that time.“The truth is she was totally misquoted and she actually didn’t use the words that were attributed to her (“basicâ€, “obedient†etc). The problem is that if she says anything it will continue the news story and controversy and we would rather let this die for now and address the issue in another interview at a later point in time. But we appreciate the true fans understanding and standing up for her. We just want to keep everything positive! But don’t want to start any rumours so please keep this between us.â€In summary, what paper magazine has reported about CL’s statement was not actually said by her; her words have been twisted, was accused and dishonoured her reputation.According to the fan, ever since she debuted, her perspective towards asians and westerns has been clear — how asian women are viewed by the caucasians, the stigma, stereotype associated to them — and has always been careful as she answered questions associated to that in countless interviews. However, Paper Magazine’s report on Cl’s over generalisation of a certain group, and how she provided no solid evidences to support her negative view point against them, is utterly unbelievable looking back how CL dealt with such.previous post (http://clmygoddess.blog.me/220470145736) is a compilation of CL’s interviews where she answered asian-western associated questions. It is evident that from the words she used, her attitude clearly reflects how she is not the same as to what Paper Magazine has described her to be. From 14.24Interviewer: You have been successful in the music industry. What is 2NE1’s plan?CL: I think it's about time Asian girls step up and change the worldFebruary 18, 2013 Interview with America BillboardCL hopes to change stereotypes regarding Asian women. "I want to represent Asian women. I want to break that typical Asian female stereotype. There's this standard where they're all calm," she says excitedly. "I want to break that. I want to tell the world that there are some badass Asian female girls and that we can be cool. That we're nothing different. I want to break that standard and stand up for all the girls.2013 June Baddest Female comeback US Billboard interview2012 June 18 France Khan Advertisement Speech (the 59th CANNES LIONS International Festival of Creativity)The following is Dan’s reply on September 3 at 2am.Interviewer: What were you trying to portray in Baddest Female?CL: There are two meanings for “‘Badâ€, one being ‘weak’ and the other being ‘cool’. Hence the title Baddest Female. I wanted to represent cool females in Asia. Therefore I tried to create a song empowering women, and provoke the viewers to be amazed and think “wow there is such a person/femaleâ€. I wanted to voice out for female, urge them to be strong and independent, which are some of the reasons why I decided to release this song.Interviewer: Was there any particular instances that made you feel that way?CL: I was raised and grown in international schools since young. And from there I realised, “there always are negative stereotypes against Asian females, or males.†Of course there were positive stereotypes, but the negative ones overrode it. So feeling the need to dispel such stigma away was natural to me as I grew up. As I am a performer, musician, I wanted to show the world how there are Asians who dress this way, and like Hip hop through my music and performance. There are so many great females that are overlooked because of their race.CL’s conviction towards Baddest Female (interview)http://osen.mt.co.kr/article/G11096104832013 June 4 InterviewBesides 2NE1, Cl always emphasises on ‘female’. This is because of Cl’s remarkable strength of will to break the westerner’s negative perspective towards Asian women. Her conviction was clearly reflected throughout the interview.“I went to international school, and it soon become clear to me that my classmates' views towards Asian women were almost impossible to change. I tried to be optimistic but it was hard. However as I fostered close relationships with them I became more and more determined to change their perspective. Then Jeremy Scot and Will.Iam told me they didn’t know there were asians that like hiphop and wear stylish clothes like me. Once I heard it that really pushed me to motivate myself to do better.Original text was too long so I cut the important things out. Go in and lookCL is such a forgiving lady she was hated and accused of racismWhy isn’t YG doing anything they should file a report about it.Source: INSTIZ [1] Omg I remember when I saw that interview I was disappointed, too. If that was true I might need to have an adjustment.[2] Finally uploadedã… ã… ã… ã… ã… ã… ã… ã… ã… ã… [3] Our CL is such a cool woman;[4] At that time I was like huh? CL? the CL I know belittling people? Those were my only thoughts so I couldn’t say anything. I’m so glad she was misquoted and misunderstood. I’m so mad when I think about all the bad remarks CL received at that time.[5] Wow she received so many criticism at that time. Wow this is so unfair.[6] Yup, I did well just reading it without believing it. (OP meant he/she read the article of CL degrading asian woman and don't believe it)[7] Wah..Seriously all those who misunderstood CL should read this…[8] It’s easy to incite but it’s hard to believe the truth. I hope this article can be spread around more and dissolve the misunderstanding.[9] If it wasn’t for this article CL might have had to live with the misunderstanding forever. I hope more people see this article and stop the misunderstanding.Author's Notes:-Big Thanks to my friend Dawn for helping me out with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToujoursSistar 7,681 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 waw i am glad this clarified if this could reach naver or nate pann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICETERO 9,070 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 I would like to know what she really said then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToujoursSistar 7,681 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 i personally think if they twisted her words she should have clarified it tbh because she got so much hate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eodumi Jiteulsulog Joa 675 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 why doesn't she clarify it then, lol? She (and YG)doesn't seem the type to sit quiet so long and being wrongly accused. Unless she comes up directly and clear up this herself, i'm not believing any of these stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pleasure 2,956 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 I would like to know what she really said then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noon 20,968 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 i didnt read the whole thing but it was obvious what she meant? im over it though, this clarification wont stop people from hating, they never do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mischo 7,462 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Yeah like other said I hope she says something about it herself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEWER RAT 10,617 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Whether she was misquoted or not....CL RT'ing & liking this on her twitter acc doesn't help at all. My fave fucked up & I won't defend her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICETERO 9,070 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Whether she was misquoted or not....CL RT'ing & liking this on her twitter acc doesn't help at all. My fave fucked up & I won't defend her. wow really? then I guess she seriously meant it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blank_stare 2,217 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Lol at ^^. Cl said that Asian women are stereotyped as a calm person and that there aren't enough people who are seen as different without being judge. This is the summarize version of what she said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athena 21,718 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Lol at ^^. Cl said that Asian women are stereotyped as a calm person and that there aren't enough people who are seen as different without being judge. This is the summarize version of what she said. That quote is pulled straight from the interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JYP 572 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Whether she was misquoted or not....CL RT'ing & liking this on her twitter acc doesn't help at all. My fave fucked up & I won't defend her. I'm not sure what I find worse, CL liking the tweet or the hashtag #truthbombs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blank_stare 2,217 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 That quote is pulled straight from the interview. They worded her wrong. The actual words are at the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToujoursSistar 7,681 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Whether she was misquoted or not....CL RT'ing & liking this on her twitter acc doesn't help at all. My fave fucked up & I won't defend her. wait she like this ? that is fucked up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel. 363 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 who cares.... the only people still stuck on this are people that hate CL and are going to hate CL no matter what, so...no fucks given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaniPi 2,626 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Lol at ^^. Cl said that Asian women are stereotyped as a calm person and that there aren't enough people who are seen as different without being judge. This is the summarize version of what she said. That's what was my first reaction too. I don't see how what she said was offensive, since it is generally known that girls in Asia do have an ideals that they should be innocent, timid, shy etc because that's more appealing. I guess CL was trying to say, that she wants to be a role model to her fans, who are afraid to try something different, due to pressures from society. Highly doubt she was trying to say all Asians are basic, its been taken out of context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohsolively 5,219 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 I always found it weird because she's actually said the "changing Asian stereotypes" thing loads of times before and was actually praised for it by knetz. So how it came across in the Paper interview was totally different and not what she's about. If they misquoted/misinterpreted her then she and her team missed the timing to clarify - they should have done it straight away. I think the damage is done because whatever she says now will just make it seem like she's back tracking. Don't really care about i-netz because they were always hating on her so this incident just gave them more ammo. But it was sad to the change in knetz attitude towards her after the interview - because before that they were pretty supportive and positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lily_of_west 774 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 CL gave several interviews in Korea about this topic and never generalized anyone or said anything bad, even when they asked about SNSD vs 2ne1 she basically said she's glad there are different types of gg out there and that there's nothing wrong with girls being the cute/innocent type. We sat on this info for months now because we didn't want to convince people she would never say "Asian girls like being basic" it was clearly a misquote and misinterpretation of her words. Her RT-ing Minya is her way of thanking for her support, they're close and Minya is a great voice for the online music culture info for the digital generation. Her reviews and opinions matter so of course she's gonna do that, doesn't mean she said that exact thing. CL has always been eloquent when giving interviews in Korean, interviews in English are a different ballgame and as fluent as she is in English, she finds it hard to convey certain things. But regardless, she'll still get hate. All opinionated females working hard to achieve what they want will be a thorn for the masses brainwashed by media run by men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy 4,972 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 I don't understand why they didn't call out Paper Mag for twisting her words, in private of course, what's the point to complain months after it happened, it won't change the fact that people will hate on her no matter what And if i was CL and her team i wouldn't trust a supposed ''important'' magazine who features Kim Trashdashian and Biglipsbutprettyfacetho Jenner on his cover but that's none of my business She gotta be vigilant on what she says to the press, once it's printed the damage is caused. Even tho she's ''fluent'' in english she gotta be careful on how she express herself coz they can twist everything, american medias has no shame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinnfb 10,968 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 If they twisted her words she or YG would've clarified by now. Tbh, I always felt like this interview was a problem of language barrier and her having difficulties to express what she wanted to convey in english. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaotic_Belle 876 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Whether she was misquoted or not....CL RT'ing & liking this on her twitter acc doesn't help at all. My fave fucked up & I won't defend her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lily_of_west 774 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 I don't understand why they didn't call out Paper Mag for twisting her words, in private of course, what's the point to complain months after it happened, it won't change the fact that people will hate on her no matter what And if i was CL and her team i wouldn't trust a supposed ''important'' magazine who features Kim Trashdashian and Biglipsbutprettyfacetho Jenner on his cover but that's none of my business She gotta be vigilant on what she says to the press, once it's printed the damage is caused. Even tho she's ''fluent'' in english she gotta be careful on how she express herself coz they can twist everything, american medias has no shame Because her labels didn't want to make it a bigger issue and decided to stay quiet, plus getting on a bad side of a big magazine such as that when you're trying to break into the market is not good strategy. Also the ones complaining now are fans fed up with the interview constantly being brought back to put her down no matter what article is released about her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy 4,972 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Because her labels didn't want to make it a bigger issue and decided to stay quiet, plus getting on a bad side of a big magazine such as that when you're trying to break into the market is not good strategy. Also the ones complaining now are fans fed up with the interview constantly being brought back to put her down no matter what article is released about her. U didn't get my point, my question was rhetorical, i know they didn't want to make it a bigger issue i read the OP. I found it stupid to talk about this months later, fans needs to stop being over-dramatic for 3 comments mentioning that interview and stop acting like internet superheroes, they won't stop petty haterz from hatin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timpa 6,547 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 What you use to defend her in previous interviews by showing her views is still a putdown and stereotype of all Asian girls tho... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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