heuieuu 564 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_national/611326.html this article is long as hell basically this pastor and his family embezzled ~$500million from the churches funds it's stuff like this that makes me disgusted with organized religion what exactly is the purpose of it? your faith should be just between you and god, not between you and religious semi-corporate bureaucracy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PALEMOCHI 3,696 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 mte that's why I sometimes don't like going to church and prefer to just worship on my own in my home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wink 181 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 I think a situation like that is the exception rather than the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stargazer 3,343 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Pretty much any organised group has a chance of being corrupt. The people who are in charge of these groups are the ones with the greatest power and everyone known the saying "power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely". To ask for the end of all organisations would be to ask for total anarchy- which isn't good for anyone. What needs to be done instead is that a system of greater checks and balances should be established. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogre Shrek 8,980 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Sadly, corruption scandals are not the province of only organized churches; it has occurred in mosques, temples, atheist-funded entities, non-profit organisations, etc. The common denominator is not their religious bent; it's greed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heuieuu 564 Posted November 17, 2013 Author Share Posted November 17, 2013 Pretty much any organised group has a chance of being corrupt. The people who are in charge of these groups are the ones with the greatest power and everyone known the saying "power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely". To ask for the end of all organisations would be to ask for total anarchy- which isn't good for anyone. What needs to be done instead is that a system of greater checks and balances should be established. I'm not talking about all organizations I'm talking about religious organizations Faith should be personal, not a communal "You must believe what I believe" cult Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miLoDy 1,988 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 There's corruption everywhere sadly, even in the church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winxred12 244 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Even people with religion in their lives are just people, bound to be as tempted and as worldly as others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
____shawnee 4,118 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 I'm not talking about all organizations I'm talking about religious organizations Faith should be personal, not a communal "You must believe what I believe" cult The basis if some faiths(?) is community so that would be contradictory. It's just a place to gather, and although many are corrupt, corruption is everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stargazer 3,343 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 I'm not talking about all organizations I'm talking about religious organizations Faith should be personal, not a communal "You must believe what I believe" cult Everyone has a different way of experiencing their own religion. Some people like to do things by themselves, some people like being with others .There's nothing wrong with either. Its basically the same argument about homeschooling vs. actual schools Whatever fits the individual more is what the individual should choose, no one has a right to dictate what they should or shouldn't do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Yagami 4,462 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Anything consisting of large groups of people leading others will have corruption in it. I left the Christian religion years ago for various reasons but even I know that you cannot judge the entire religion based on some asshole and his pals stealing from the church. The Christian religion along with other world religions have good points that should not be ignored, people shouldn't turn a blind eye to that. The leaders of these religions should do their best to get rid of the poison within their ranks. Now if only people were more concerned with what their political leaders do, this world would be a much better place... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyoyeon's lines in check 6,413 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Christian organizations donate millions in aid across the globe every year whether it is through direct finances, food, or shelter. So no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yerowan 1,006 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_national/611326.html this article is long as hell basically this pastor and his family embezzled ~$500million from the churches funds it's stuff like this that makes me disgusted with organized religion what exactly is the purpose of it? your faith should be just between you and god, not between you and religious semi-corporate bureaucracy Probably not on this scale, as the article says this is the *world's* largest mega-church, so they have more money coming into their coffers. You could make the argument that it's not just embezzlement that indicates corruption in churches, but church leaders living in massive mansions and driving expensive cars and wearing designer clothes, all paid for by their followers... despite Mark 10:25 (ESV) "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God.†Which really should be a hint to everybody involved in mega-churches, from the leaders down to the followers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heuieuu 564 Posted November 17, 2013 Author Share Posted November 17, 2013 Probably not on this scale, as the article says this is the *world's* largest mega-church, so they have more money coming into their coffers. You could make the argument that it's not just embezzlement that indicates corruption in churches, but church leaders living in massive mansions and driving expensive cars and wearing designer clothes, all paid for by their followers... despite Mark 10:25 (ESV) "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God.†Which really should be a hint to everybody involved in mega-churches, from the leaders down to the followers. I know the Catholic church has quite a centralized system I wonder if this occurs at the higher levels of the Catholic church as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonelexe 126 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Singapore : http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2449010/Singapore-megachurch-founder-trial-stealing-40million-fund-wifes-American-pop-star-dream.html its literally everywhere , just caughted or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥SNS-Shinomiya♥ 420 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 I am one to pay my 10% faithfully, but I do move from a church when I feel as though the money isn't used to help support the preacher or good will toward man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PinkBaby 306 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Don't let the bad acts of a few make you judge the rest. We always say this about fandoms but it applies to everything in life. Just because there are corrupt church leaders everywhere does not mean all church leaders are bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joon 8,222 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 It's very common. Considering the history of religion, should anyone be surprised? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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