The Curious Case of Mamamoo

[Marie Juana]

Let's have a healthy discussion about Mamamoo.

 

We cannot deny the fact that today's girl groups are getting more and more spotlight in K-pop World that was once dominated by boy groups. Girl groups debuted last 2014 to 2015 were some of the finest GGs that K-pop provided to mankind.

 

Red Velvet, Mamamoo, GFriend, and Twice are the best representatives of New or Next Generation Girl Groups. Their achievements since debut are excellent and the story of their success is something the future groups can inspire of. However, one thing that I noticed about these 4 amazing groups. Only three groups used to enjoy the spotlight a lot and always favored to be on TOP which are RV, GF and Twice.

 

I am wondering with all the achievements of Mamamoo, why is it like they can't enjoy some spotlight like the other 3 groups mentioned above? Also, why their name is rarely seen to be the potential next Nation Girl Group?

[noon]

 

I am wondering with all the achievements of Mamamoo, why is it like they can't enjoy some spotlight like the other 3 groups mentioned above? Also, why their name is rarely seen to be the potential next Nation Girl Group?

 

they do their fandom just isnt as loud on here.

[redheart]

They debuted in a small company, actually I never expected them to be so popular so fast

Also their concept (even tho it changed a little now) is very different from RV GF and Twice's one

they are strong woman coming to slay your asses, if you listen closely to their lyrics they are very different from the classical gg stuff

[MEANIE~]

MAMAMOO is not following a successful steps just like RV,GFRIEND

 

MAMAMOO is a group that focus music style,making them renowned and popular

 

They usually use their powerhouse vocals to slay the kpop

 

MAMAMOO's success is an important impact to kpop

 

As they successfully change the traditional way of becoming popular from girl groups,bring new elements to kpop

[funkycucumber]

Simply put, mamamoo's international fandom is the slowest to boom. They do not have big agency international recognition advantage like twice or rv, nor a hit song me gustas tu like gfriend. They were also not in many variety shows which attract international fans.

 

These girls are getting popular due to their pure talent and personality.

 

Don't worry, international fans are starting to notice and fall in the endless pit of moomooism. Even up to the um oh ah yeah period, their youtube videos are mostly filled with korean comments, I see they are getting alot more english comments on youtube now. And their chinese baidu tieba fanbase just increased from 5000 to 17000+ within half a month (after YTB promos)

 

I have no doubt at all mamamoo is going to become really well received in the international fandom in time to come, and they are going to sustain this popularity built on solid talent and personality (as opposed to an unsustainable hype due to one hit song). Shows like we got married will expose the i-fandom to mamamoo.

[YooJeong]

Idk. They have a strong fandom, visuals, talent and strong digital sales.

 

They're probably the most well rounded group- good at both physical sales and digital sales.

 

And they're also the most talented group in kpop along with Spica and Brown Eyed Girls.

 

Even tho I Stan Twice and GFriend, And RV, I feel like Mamamoo is going to come out with some huge bop that will shoot them to #1 in the new gen, while Once and Buddies are fighting over #1 lol.

[Dolores Haze]

they do their fandom just isnt as loud on here.

 

Simply put, mamamoo's international fandom is the slowest to boom. They do not have big agency international recognition advantage like twice or rv, nor a hit song me gustas tu like gfriend. They were also not in many variety shows which attract international fans.

 

These girls are getting popular due to their pure talent and personality.

 

Don't worry, international fans are starting to notice and fall in the endless pit of moomooism. Even up to the um oh ah yeah period, their youtube videos are mostly filled with korean comments, I see they are getting alot more english comments on youtube now. And their chinese baidu tieba fanbase just increased from 5000 to 17000+ within half a month (after YTB promos)

 

I have no doubt at all mamamoo is going to become really well received in the international fandom in time to come, and they are going to sustain this popularity built on solid talent and personality (as opposed to an unsustainable hype due to one hit song). Shows like we got married will expose the i-fandom to mamamoo.

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[The_Vixen]

Everything above + the age factor

I also think ppl tend not to think as them as idols but singers.

Their vibe is completely different.

As a Buddy I know this can be looking down on my favs but MMM look less "fabricated " than the other groups

[vasco da gama]

I'm not stan them, but no doubt they're unique with powerfull vocalist

[YamaChan]

I mean, I would love to participate in this topic but you should probably look outside the OneHallyu bubble to inform your opinions about K-Pop. Mamamoo is very much in the discussion as much as Red Velvet, Twice and GFriend are and their Korean fandom is already large and still growing rapidly. 

 

Even here, yours truly has suggested placing them in the conversation for the next top girl group, NOT Nation's Girl Group, as that's a title that is synonymous with SNSD at this point. 

 

Among girl groups that debuted since 2014, none can really approach their digital and streaming numbers, the accelerated growth of their fandom domestically (and now abroad) and now their physicals are even drastically improving as well, seeing how they outsold their three previous albums combined in just four days with their latest comeback.

 

But...where did you get the notion that Mamamoo doesn't enjoy any spotlight? They've gotten plenty. Their public recognition is huge thanks to Immortal Song 2. Their recent comeback just got a Perfect-All-Kill on the charts. They were recently chosen as the models for LG's new products. Their fanmeet sold out a few thousand tickets in minutes. They've already had a very successful fanmeet in America. Netizens have nothing but praise for them (and that pisses some people off  ) no matter what. They are effusively praised by fans and other idols for their talent. They won 8 music shows and were nominated for wins for an entire month. I could go on.

 

I mean, I get it. We don't make a dozen topics a week about Mamamoo here, but I don't think they're not getting spotlight. Unless not getting a ton of weekly topics on OH means they lack a spotlight.

[HugeBoi Minos Wife]

They enjoy the spotlight tho. They are always mentioned on Pann when talking about next generation girl groups and I remember this article about unique concepts and groups breaking the idol stereotype. I mean their public recognition is quite high and they got a PAK this year so I wonder why you thought that way? They´re in line for the top spot just like Gfriend, Twice or RV and people are much aware of it.

[YamaChan]

Oh, and UOAY definitely qualifies as a hit song. It put them on the map and during 2015 only Shake It garnered more downloads.

 

Only a hit song gets this kind of treatment

 

 

 

 

[Marie Juana]

I mean, I would love to participate in this topic but you should probably look outside the OneHallyu bubble to inform your opinions about K-Pop. Mamamoo is very much in the discussion as much as Red Velvet, Twice and GFriend are and their Korean fandom is already large and still growing rapidly. 

 

Even here, yours truly has suggested placing them in the conversation for the next top girl group, NOT Nation's Girl Group, as that's a title that is synonymous with SNSD at this point. 

 

Among girl groups that debuted since 2014, none can really approach their digital and streaming numbers, the accelerated growth of their fandom domestically (and now abroad) and now their physicals are even drastically improving as well, seeing how they outsold their three previous albums combined in just four days with their latest comeback.

 

But...where did you get the notion that Mamamoo doesn't enjoy any spotlight? They've gotten plenty. Their public recognition is huge thanks to Immortal Song 2. Their recent comeback just got a Perfect-All-Kill on the charts. They were recently chosen as the models for LG's new products. Their fanmeet sold out a few thousand tickets in minutes. They've already had a very successful fanmeet in America. Netizens have nothing but praise for them (and that pisses some people off  ) no matter what. They are effusively praised by fans and other idols for their talent. They won 8 music shows and were nominated for wins for an entire month. I could go on.

 

I mean, I get it. We don't make a dozen topics a week about Mamamoo here, but I don't think they're not getting spotlight. Unless not getting a ton of weekly topics on OH means they lack a spotlight.

 

They enjoy the spotlight tho. They are always mentioned on Pann when talking about next generation girl groups and I remember this article about unique concepts and groups breaking the idol stereotype. I mean their public recognition is quite high and they got a PAK this year so I wonder why you thought that way? They´re in line for the top spot just like Gfriend, Twice or RV and people are much aware of it.

 

Thanks for these wonderful responses.

 

LOLs Maybe I'm just getting used to fanboying/fangirling culture wherein groups get into fanwars, members where compared to one another and groups always claiming the No. 1 spots. Well, RV, GF and Twice were always compared and talked about I guess MORE that's why I feel like Mamamoo was left behind. Maybe their fans are just quite and dont want to drag about Mamamoo's achievements.

[HugeBoi Minos Wife]

Thanks for these wonderful responses.

LOLs Maybe I'm just getting used to fanboying/fangirling culture wherein groups get into fanwars, members where compared to one another and groups always claiming the No. 1 spots. Well, RV, GF and Twice were always compared and talked about I guess MORE that's why I feel like Mamamoo was left behind. Maybe their fans are just quite and dont want to drag about Mamamoo's achievements.

 

I think thats because their fandom stays out of the fanwars and they have a way bigger korean fanbase compared to the international one. Add to that the fact that moomoos arent as vocal as others, you might get this impression. Dont worry tho, they are definitely part of the race lol

[vasco da gama]

 

Mamamoo have huge fanbase there, look at real time chart when they release their lastest song.sooo much efforted eventhough less than 1 days their hold pak.what make me awe is they have burst start like bigbang,iu,sistar etc + now their lastest song have longevity too . Maybe they will reach top 10 soon.

[StarShapedGummy]

they found a niche in the market. and they found a way to stand out from the rest of the recently debuts. being from a smaller company, this is paramount to being successful in this bloated market atm.

[CECIâ„¢]

their popularity in korea is growing and they are doing really well there

 

Maybe their international popularity is not so big but I think their fans are just quiet and that happens because they are not teens, mamamoo fans are usually older IMO

[Sminout]

Mamamoo will probably be like Sistar: Strong digital sales and public recognition but a not so big fandom to back them up.

[YamaChan]

Mamamoo will probably be like Sistar: Strong digital sales and public recognition but a not so big fandom to back them up.

Okay. People are still saying this? Mamamoo is not Sistar. Their fandom is already large and growing exponentially larger.

 

They won music shows against Taemin and Lee Hi, and with a month old song, barely lost to Red Velvet and Got7, even winning the live vote in some cases.

 

Their fancafe has seen the largest and fastest rise in girl group fancafe history.

 

They sold over 4000 albums in a day and are on pace for 25k+

 

They've held successful fanmeets numbering in the thousands.

 

It baffles me there's still someone saying they have a small fandom. I suggest you watch any of their recent lives to see all the radishes in the crowd.

[vasco da gama]

Mamamoo will probably be like Sistar: Strong digital sales and public recognition but a not so big fandom to back them up.

No, they have pretty big fandom now, mamamoo number 3 behind rv and twice.

[krystar]

Idk. They have a strong fandom, visuals, talent and strong digital sales.

 

They're probably the most well rounded group- good at both physical sales and digital sales.

 

And they're also the most talented group in kpop along with Spica and Brown Eyed Girls.

 

Even tho I Stan Twice and GFriend, And RV, I feel like Mamamoo is going to come out with some huge bop that will shoot them to #1 in the new gen, while Once and Buddies are fighting over #1 lol.

Honestly where sis? Lol idk about the other but me as an individual buddy never think about fighting for GF to be no #1 GG. Come to think about it again who is even predicting that GFriend can come to this point of their career tbh im just grateful GFriend music can be apreciated by Korean public/internation kpop fans and the girls can taste the feeling of winning in music show, The others part are Korean public opinion. I hope ppl do release we are just I-fans roaches, our opinion over the NGG and such dont matter much

[YooJeong]

Honestly where sis? Lol idk about the other but me as a individual buddy never think about fighting for GF to be no #1. Come to think about it again who is even predicting that GFriend can come to this point of their career tbh im just grateful GFriend music can be apreciated by Korean public and the girls can taste the feeling of winning in music show, The others part are Korean public opinion, I hope ppl do release we are just I-fans roaches, our opinion over the NGG and such dont matter much

I'm a buddy too but....seriously, don't even try to say that there is no fanwar going on. I mean, there was a thread made to help the fandoms reconcile, and that thread is a huge mess between the two fandoms...

 

A big chunk of the fandom is definitely the same as you & I (we don't care who is top/NGG, just enjoy the bops and love the girls), but there are a lot of fans who are definitely fighting at it and are obsessed over the NGG title. 

 

Just take a peek at the reconciliation thread & you'll see what I mean. 

 

Plus that part of my post was just some humor, nothing serious 

 

[krystar]

I'm a buddy too but....seriously, don't even try to say that there is no fanwar going on. I mean, there was a thread made to help the fandoms reconcile, and that thread is a huge mess between the two fandoms...

 

A big chunk of the fandom is definitely the same as you & I (we don't care who is top/NGG, just enjoy the bops and love the girls), but there are a lot of fans who are definitely fighting at it and are obsessed over the NGG title.

 

Just take a peek at the reconciliation thread & you'll see what I mean.

 

Plus that part of my post was just some humor, nothing serious

 

And it was mostly created by trolls and nothing serious, I never take it as once and buddy fighting to be the #1 they are just fighting for thier pride bc in a thread like that people who post tend to downplaying each group.

 

I know you sis youre chill af i liked your post tho HAHA

[YooJeong]

And it was mostly created by trolls and nothing serious, I never take it as once and buddy fighting to be the #1 they are just fighting for thier pride bc in a thread like that people who post tend to downplaying each group.

 

I know you sis youre chill af i liked your post tho HAHA

yes, exactly that. 

 

It's more of a fanwar because trolls start things and then normal fans reply to the bait and then it turns into a mess 

 

& mostly I think Mamamoo's success isn't as "loud" as Twice and GFriend's success so when Mamamoo has a huge breakthrough  people will be shocked and suddenly acknowledge them 

[nichy23]

You cant base on someone's success on the quantity of OH thread lmao. Just because we dont go creating lots of thread about Mamamoo, it doesnt mean that Mamamoo isnt successful and doesnt have more fans. We're not as vocal as others in here, we tend to hibernate and spazz in our official farm. Maybe you need to get out from OH bubble and perhaps look more in Korean community site like NAVER or even NATE & Pann, they mostly have positive response. But its true for this moment their fans in Korea is more than international, but like some user said their international fanbase is growing