Star Empire Girls

[LoveKeumjo]

Haha hyeri and yunji's birthday is only two days apart from each other.

 

all their birthdays are really close to each other, our summer babies 

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so pretty 

is that other person doing a middle finger at the camera? lmao

 

nah, it looks like she is pointing at the guy sitting behind them

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Yeah, I just realized that isn't her middle finger lol 

 

when do you guys think OMZM will debut? i believe it will be january, which would be strategically good because they´ll have the whole year to promote and the chance for them to get a rookie award t the end of the year is higher 

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Yeah. Really a pity though because the three of them (hyeri,yunji and sihyeon) really blend together well as a group(for a group that hasn't even officially debut yet) and they could have been a unique one in terms of concept. 

 

 

Even if she couldn't have gone she probably would have made some sort of post about it. 

I guess they'll just have to prepare for debut with other trainees. Its a sad reality for trainee life. There are often a lot of line up changes before a group actually debuts. Sometimes people get a taste of the reality of what it will be like to be a full time idol and they'd rather pursue something else. 

 

some Korean fans said that yunji got an offer to join already debuted group "Heart" and she accepted, thus leaving sihyeon and yunji behind and star empire was really shocked by that. they say she´ll be introduced during the next comeback of the group as the new main vocal! (yunji even supported the group Heart while she was still a star empire trainee, she posted about their debut song, etc..) 

sihyeon and hyeri must feel really betrayed which is why they don´t talk about yunji at all :(

 

HEART profile: http://www.kpopmap.com/heart-kpop-profile/

 

Edited February 14, 2017 by LoveKeumjo

[LoveKeumjo]

More like pre-debut song. I don't think they actually performed at any music shows. I also heard that 2 girls from kpopstar6 will join that group.

 

If what they said is true, I'd like to imagine that Yunji did a lot of contemplating before accepting the offer. 

 

yes 

they also said that chaeeun was the one who talked yunji and jueun into leaving star empire...which is why all 3 left at the same time.

[LoveKeumjo]

Now this one is weird cos unless all 3 of them are going into that group... Why?

 

apparently, and this is also just a rumor from k-fans, she had a fight with hyeri because hyeri has so many schedules already and chaeeun was jealous, but sihyeon stood up for hyeri and protected her, so chaeeun got really angry. 

now, they didn´t say anything about why she took jueun and yunji with her when she left, but some think it´s to delay hyeri and sihyeons debut. 

 

it was probably easy to talk yunji into leaving star empire tho since she already had the new contract offer from Hearts company and jueun may have joined another company as well. 

[LoveKeumjo]

These rumours are getting uglier.....

 

i wonder if the truth will ever be revealed. right now we can´t question anybody about it so i guess we´ll just have to accept things as they are and move on. 

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Hmmm I feel like her joining the other group makes sense because I can't think of any other reason of why she would just suddenly leave especially when they were even at the point of almost introducing the rest of the members. If she's been supporting Heart for so long, I'd assume she's been considering it for quite a while and its much better for her to have made a decision now than to actually be debuting through star empire and then decide she wanted to be with Heart later. I checked out their song and if their actual debut (seems like a prerelease) is in that style, maybe its just that she really prefers that style of music. Also if she's been supporting them from their beginning, then I'd assume she's friends with them, so I can see why she would take the offer. 

 

We'll just have to see if she really will be debuting with Heart. 

 

And then maybe it would make sense that SE wouldn't make a full announcement of the next plans for the group yet, especially since this is kind of something you wouldn't expect (someone choosing to move to another group after already doing events as a kind of unit so close to the reveal of the entire group profiles). It would make sense to just figure out what they are going to do and then do an official announcement of actual debut plans then announce the departure of a trainee. 

 

With the other rumors, that seems wild. Are multiple people saying this?? How much influence would Chaeeun have to have with them to make Yunji and Jueun also leave???

 

i´ve heard it from multiple fans already, korean fans are really angry at Chaeeun so i guess atleast some of the rumors must be true...

 

If the reason yunji left is because of the delay in their debut due to hyeri's busy schedule, that I can understand. But if you are telling me she left to join a already "debut/half-debut" group "heart" just to be their main vocal when she herself is already one in omzm seems really weird.

And I am not sure how the existing members of "heart" will really feel with additional member especially someone joining them later and take up the main vocal position from their existing main vocal.

 

Sihyeon and especially Hyeri would definitely feel betrayed. Hyeri was pretty close with yunji and she could have easily left SE and get into another company's girl group easily with her population after produce 101 but instead decide to stick with OMZM to debut together with sihyeon and yunji. kinda sad things turn out this way.

 

2 kpop star 6 contestants will apparently also join Heart now, so the company adds public personalities to raise awareness for the group. (That happens a lot with groups from smaller companies!) 

 

I don't think chaeeun has that great influence to talk yunji into leaving. If anything I would say it's SE's dragging.

As for chaeeun being jealous, not sure if it's really true but I wouldn't be surprise when she had to "hide" behind the scenes since she joined SE after produce 101 ended and not even being allowed to be introduced as omzm officially while hyeri,sihyeon and yunji appeared in vapp broadcast and even performing on public.I wouldn't feel good if I were in her shoes.

 

Chaeeun and Yunji are super close, Chaeeun even bought the calendar from Yunji´s fansite and wrote "spending the whole year with Yunji unnie" on her instagram. 

 

to be honest, i don´t see any fault from star empire this time. trainees deciding to leave even though they were already planned to debut happens all the time. now SE just needs to find replacements as fast as possible because OMZM should debut around the time Hyeri´s Idolmaster drama gets released to profit from the public awareness 

[LoveKeumjo]

Actually SE does have some part in it. As we know taking group profile pictures doesn't mean SE will debut them any time soon. Let's not forget it's SE we are talking about. They are famous for screwing up. Just like how Yunji,hyeri and sihyeon had a profile group photoshoot as OMZM earlier in the first half of last year and no debut even till the second time they had another profile group photoshoot in mid nov last year as 5 members. SE dragged the debut way too long and even stopped doing any vapp broadcast which doesn't really give assurance to the girls of whether SE will actually debut them any time soon even if we as fans hope for it to be asap.

 

As for now whether OMZM should debut around the time Hyeri's drama get released, i think that will be abit hard considering SE don't have many trainees like other entertainment companies. And it will also be too rush to just anyhow find replacements to slot in and debut. 

 

I just hope sihyeon and hyeri get to eventually debut without rushing for the sake of rushing.

 

i understand your negative view of SE (i´ve been a nine muses fan since 2011, so i really saw the weirdest shit they pulled off) but ever since 2015 they´ve upgraded nearly everything: their management, the employees, their promotions, i mean, just look at Imfact, they are doing really well, were crowned as one of the Top 5 rookies of 2016 and now have that Imfactory project and their solo concerts in korea and japan already! 

 

the biggest positive aspect of star empire is, that they have an amazing eye for all-round talented and beautiful people! i´ve never seen a compay with so much raw talent before. 

 

their biggest problem now is that they have to fight against the prejudice which has formed in everybodys mind and correcting / learning from their past mistakes. (also, money shortage)

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I am aware of them having an amazing eye for unique and all-rounder talents. And I know SE has been trying to improve but they still suck badly in the most important promoting department and not knowing how to utilize the talent they have at hand. Money shortage is also one of their problems. But they really need to work on improving how they promote/utilize their talents. I have defended them on many occasion but at the same time i am also realistic to know and admit they are lacking in alot of areas which really isn't doing any good for their artists and themselves in the long term.   

 

so...you just repeated what i said?  

but it´s nice to know we think the same 

 

2017 looks really good thus far with Imfacts monthly projects, 9muses comeback soon and omzm´s upcoming debut :3 

 

[LoveKeumjo]

I actually feel like Yunji leaving to go to Heart would make more sense than her just leaving because the debut isn't coming fast enough. If they were preparing for the debut, which they clearly were, then there would be no point in risking your career to leave in the middle of the preparation if there wasn't some other offer for you already on the table (unless you decided to go an entirely different path). 

 

And groups undergoing member changes even after having a prerelease track doesn't seem to be an extremely rare even (biggest example is T-a*ra, they had a different original lineup and released some songs with them but eventually debuted with different members). I do think it would be awkward for one main vocal to be replaced with a new one, but as far as I've seen i cant tell who is the main vocalists anyway. Who knows. It could be weird but not entirely improbable. We'll just have to see if that actually is going to happen or not. 

 

abt the other rumors...idk it seems so wild to me like it doesnt 100% add up to me (but i also dont think its entirely impossible), like I feel like if anyone would have been jealous it would have been Yunji, since Chaeeun was in school and wasn't a part of the original trio who were the known sort of "unit" since p101 began so I dont think its unreasonable that SE wanted to wait and build up anticipation for the rest of the members and "reveal" her even though anyone could have already guessed she was going to be a member. 

 

However, Yunji was a part of the original three but didn't have some sort of solo activity (if you could Sihyeon doing an OST as being an activity, I personally think that is debatable) even though she definitely wasn't busy with school or anything. But her leaving doesnt seem to be out of a jealousy thing (if it was wouldnt she have left much earlier than she did???).

 

And also Chaeeun ending her own debut plans just to sabotage Hyeri and Sihyeon doesn't make sense to me either (as well as her having enough influence to convince someone else to end their own debut plans for this purpose). idk rumors always are questionable.

 

Also, even though SE has given plenty of reasons to make people think that they are behind all issues with their groups, I dont think its fair to automatically assume its largely their fault without having much proof. Because honestly you could see them actually trying with them instead of just letting them fade out of the public eye. SE even put effort into promoting IBI, another way to further publicity about Hyeri and the future group debut.

 

Yeah, the debut is taking a while but if you think about it, it was better for them not to try and rush and give us a half-assed debut soon after the show ended and around when IOI was beginning their activity (because they would have probably gotten criticism/hate from other fans/ attention would mainly be on IOI anyway).

As time went on they could have debuted, but then the IBI opportunity came up and it would have been a waste for SE not to do this project as a way to further more pre-debut promotion.

And then it seemed like we were getting closer to a debut either at the end of 2016 or the beginning of this year, but thats when Yunji(/Chaeeun/Jueeun left), delaying the debut (quite a lot obviously) even more.

 

So yeah, it could even be possible that SE was just as shocked at these turn of events as fans are. They haven't even fully handled Yunji's departure completely (they still have her name on the facebook page description/still have her profile on the daum fancafe page even though they changed the banner).  

 

yes, you always have to take rumors with a lot of grains of salt. sometimes they are true, sometimes they are not. 

i completely agree with your opinion you posted here 

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guys, there are some really bad pictures of jueunie circulating (which could be the reason why she had to depart from se???) 

i don´t want to repost them, but you can see them here: https://twitter.com/chaenjjol/status/832177992155553792

a chaeeun fan posted them, it shows jueunie before joining star empire... 

i´m kind of sad because i liked her 

[LoveKeumjo]

Yeah I actually though I saw a picture (of her smoking??? but I'm in sure if it was really her) but this was very early on so I wasn't sure about it. This COULD be a reason for her departure, sense having bad pictures like this going around usually will get a group a lot of hate early on and would make a debut harder than usual.  

 

jep, i´d understand why she´d leave before getting the hate from netizens for it :(

[LoveKeumjo]

Wait, Jueun & Chae-eun left too?? The last time I checked only Yunji left :(

 

I low-key think the reason they made Hyeri sign an exclusive contract last January was to prevent her from leaving the company when a few others left. I can be 90% wrong though. If Jueun and Chae-eun did leave, then it is probably safe to say that we won't get a debut during Hyeri's idolmaster airing. Knowing SE (I've been a Nine Muses mega-fan even before they debuted), I expected OMZM's debut delay. Hype for Nine Muses started to build up during 2009, and it wasn't until August '10 that they debuted. The hyped line-up during '09 was even different from the official debut line-up. If the same thing happens, we'll probably get a debut on the second half of this year. I don't think they'll drag the debut to 2018 unless they don't find member replacements ASAP.

 

Anyway, I think I understand SE with their delay in debut. The thing I noticed with them through the years is that they're scared of having underwhelming debuts, so they tend to prepare their teams for a long time. Not to mention that SE isn't the richest company in K-pop so every penny spent may matter a lot to them. Their moves are always so strategic, and I personally think this is a good thing. With Hyeri's popularity or not, they would always get better results with a more solid debut. (I might be wrong, but this might be the biggest lesson they learned with Nine Muses back when the responses to "No Playboy" was negative. They even put the hiatus to a year-long group just so they could train them and prepare them even more.) That being said, I think the reason why they sacrificed the peak of Hyeri's popularity during 101 was because they know themselves that the team wasn't ready. Or, there might not actually have been a team formed before 101, since I wouldn't think they wouldn't put Chaeun in the line-up if there was. Heck I even think they put SHY in Produce 101 not knowing they were (or at least one was) going to do well.

 

Either way, I am definitely looking forward to seeing my Hyeri on stage

 

 

If I am not wrong it might also be because of her taking part in the idol master kr drama. Trainee status vs official artiste may result in different payment amount that SE can ask from the TV station/company in charge of the drama. And they also get to dictate how much share of the money she will get.

 

is it true that yunji and dawon deleted their instagram accounts? and that yunji liked an omzm post before deleting? are they returning to star empire? 

[LoveKeumjo]

Question:

Yunji was born in wich year???

 

i think 1996 

[LoveKeumjo]

Ohhh thanks

I have another question...

Do trainee's in StarEmpire can have SNS???

Cuz i know the Fantagio trainee's cant, but some comapnies do let their trainee's have SNS....

 

no, not really... normally they don´t have any. omzm is a special case because they´ve been exposed to the public before their debut so star empire had to make a twitter account for them to reach out to their fans 

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i wonder if they´ll debut this year 

on a positive note: hyeri´s drama idolmaster.kr has a broadcast date: april 28th!!!! 

 

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SE needs to broaden their market audience to not just the koreans or the Japanese. Other International Fans can bring in just as much revenue for them. And they need to start providing subs to the songs/variety shows of their artiste and update their freaking website which is so super outdated.

I also rather trainees who aren't interested or wants to leave,do leave before the group debuts.

At the look at how things are currently, i would say the fastest if they were to re-recruit trainees to fill up the group consisting of hyeri and Sihyeon(assuming she's still in it) and debut, it would be late quarter of this year.

Whatever it is, i just hope hyeri gets to debut. She works so hard and it's really hurting to see her hard work isn't bearing fruit yet.

 

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their friendship is sooo great  
(but i´m kinda confused because gaeun is never in any pictures o.o does she not want to hang out with them at all?  )

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I miss the three of their activity as a group during vlive.

 

me too :( 

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Just saw this tweet.not sure if it's true but if she hasn't leave SE then all the previous rumors abt her already left SE together with yunji and jueun would have been false.

 

or she returned  i´d like to see yunji come back as well, but since se cut her out of all pictures...we´ll really have to pray

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Well they all were just rumors in the first place so

 

The only member we've ever had reason to believe left SE was Yunji just because of her picture being taken from the OMZM banners, the rest was all speculation with no specific reason behind it. 

 

I felt like Chaeeun hadn't left since when Hyeri was active for that short period of time on IG they followed each other and were talking to each other through comments

 

true  

momoland fans said that a double sidekick trainee left and went to star empire, so she may be a new addition? 

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I also think she's wearing a wig, I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed lmao. That will be an interesting plotline possibly.

 

Right, her voice stands out like Sunny's voice always does!! 

 

 

 

Right now I'm feeling sad but not as much as I'm feeling impatient. Its not even about me wanting her to debut soon, its just that she's clearly ready to debut. I mean yes she did technically debut with IBI but it was a brief bit of promotion, so I think its just very frustrating that she already has the kind of presence that an already debuted idol has but she still hasn't debuted yet.