Hyooga 10,307 Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 I will never understand stans who neg even facts. I understand people negging opinions they disagree with (I got negged to death by Yoona stans when I commented I had high expectations of her Mandarin because of the thread titled her as fluent - I then shared my opinion that she was impressive, but she still isn't 'fluent' but more of conversational imo) that was an opinion and I am totally okay with people negging that especially if they disagree. But I got negged for a reply where i translated what a kpop group said in an interview like wth. Seriously? Are kpop fans nowadays THAT sensitive? Also some people think sharing negative opinions = attacking their bias. Expressing thoughts = complaining. Any 'fan' who says something negative is a fake fan for sure...or a troll.....right? Seriously kpop is my way of destressing from real life with like minded people who share the same interest. If kpop fans will always feel threatened or over defend their idols with the slightest hint of shade and criticism (which might even not be shade or criticism to begin with)...i feel it sucks out all the fun in kpop. I have been a kpop fan since tvxq's rising sun era but it is only now im experiencing fans getting irked by the smallest hint of shade (that may or may not be there).....Nowadays we even need to be extra careful in throwing around kpop jokes lest you get attacked by their fans....i dunno kpop as a hobby just feels more stressful now......i just want it to be as free flowing and fun again like the days when most kpop discussions were still in soompi and livejournal some years back..... On a sidenote tho...im really impressed by how chill sohye fans are handling the haters lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Boys 1,468 Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambi 696 Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Not Kpop, the forum. Stay off the site if its that stressful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najaflow 1,379 Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeZee 1,603 Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Yeah it's pretty toxic. Just ignore the idiots and you'll be fine. I think everything will be better in a few years once the average fan starts to mature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogwai 15,203 Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 What post is that? I looked through your rep and didn't see any translations unless I missed it or it was deleted. Anyway it's probably the forum. Stay off the main areas when it gets too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Weasley 769 Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 yeah people are like that. Especially with not differentiating hate speech and a opinion. I no longer care about my rep tho, i am actually pretty nice person (i really am haha) well but... i wasn't really around here old times but it really gets on my nerves sometimes. I try not to care though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESSON 11,205 Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 If you can't handle the forum and people disagreeing with you then you should probably switch to a fandom centric twitter or tumblr setting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyooga 10,307 Posted April 4, 2016 Author Share Posted April 4, 2016 Not Kpop, the forum. Stay off the site if its that stressful But when i read the comments sections of current kpop sites it is not that different tbh :( If you can't handle the forum and people disagreeing with you then you should probably switch to a fandom centric twitter or tumblr setting Not just OH, i really meant international kpop sites in general Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BingeulBingeul 5,150 Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 People here neg for pretty much everything. You should get used to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeZee 1,603 Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 But when i read the comments sections of current kpop sites it is not that different tbh :( Not just OH, i really meant international kpop sites in general Yeah it's not just this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESSON 11,205 Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 But when i read the comments sections of current kpop sites it is not that different tbh :( Not just OH, i really meant international kpop sites in general Honestly I think it's quite contradictory that you are claiming the fans here are sensitive considering the way you are reacting to them now... Just spend time in the official threads of your faves, they tend to be nicer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shocking blue 7,514 Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Kpop fandoms are very passionate (not always a good thing). If you're sensitive, just listen to the music and stay off the fandom/discussion sites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante. 7,795 Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 hm ive been part of kpop fandom since 2007ish and its always been pretty negative to me. i rmbr being on forums n seeing ppl being really gross and shit about henry (this ws when only13 was huge) and snsd and the like. but i suppose it has gotten worse. sites like kpkf, nb, koreaboo, etc, have risen during that time and are pretty big sources for ifandom and they mostly stick to negative things/things that would definitely start drama. idt they're solely to blame, but idt they help either.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyooga 10,307 Posted April 4, 2016 Author Share Posted April 4, 2016 Honestly I think it's quite contradictory that you are claiming the fans here are sensitive considering the way you are reacting to them now... Just spend time in the official threads of your faves, they tend to be nicer It isn't just an OH thing, I just cited the above because it is my own experience....if you read comments on youtube, LJ, its no different.... Also i did mention in my OP im ok with negs regarding opinion because i fully know that 1) im human and things i say are flawed 2) people are free to disagree.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyooga 10,307 Posted April 4, 2016 Author Share Posted April 4, 2016 hm ive been part of kpop fandom since 2007ish and its always been pretty negative to me. i rmbr being on forums n seeing ppl being really gross and shit about henry (this ws when only13 was huge) and snsd and the like. but i suppose it has gotten worse. sites like kpkf, nb, koreaboo, etc, have risen during that time and are pretty big sources for ifandom and they mostly stick to negative things/things that would definitely start drama. idt they're solely to blame, but idt they help either.. Netizenbuzz comments give me a migraine tbh....but kpop is my only legit hobby outside real life and i have been with it for 11 yrs now.... :( Things were bad back then but there was a pretty bold line on who the haters and fans are, but nowadays fans easily get suspicious on who fake fans are that it tends to be uncomfortable....you become too careful lest they tag you as such Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FactMan 2,366 Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Be like me. I ignore immature people (both irl and here) and come to enjoy the good stuff I like. I overlook the crap and have fun stanning my girl groups without much concern <3 Sometimes I react to some stuff, evidently, but it doesn't get in my way. Anyways, Fighting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CareBear08 7,527 Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Don't give up on Kpop itself because that's not the problem. When I first entered Kpop I stuck to myself for the first couple of years. I didn't read comments or interact with other fans. Someone said go to the artists threads, that's a great idea. In those you will find like minded people who can hod a conversation about the things that you like. People in AT don't play when it comes to bashing. So you can feel safe there and avoid unnecessary hate. Google Kpop or Korean music and it pulls up sites where you can find kpop or korean music. There's even online internet radio stations for this kind of music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTS 4,782 Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Kpop is always full of trash talk to me ever since i followed Kpop as a Sone, it's indeed getting more & more exhausted tho but i think it's just because i'm (we're) just getting old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyooga 10,307 Posted April 4, 2016 Author Share Posted April 4, 2016 Don't give up on Kpop itself because that's not the problem. When I first entered Kpop I stuck to myself for the first couple of years. I didn't read comments or interact with other fans. Someone said go to the artists threads, that's a great idea. In those you will find like minded people who can hod a conversation about the things that you like. People in AT don't play when it comes to bashing. So you can feel safe there and avoid unnecessary hate. Google Kpop or Korean music and it pulls up sites where you can find kpop or korean music. There's even online internet radio stations for this kind of music. thanks for the suggest! If knly i had kpop fan friends irl i probz wouldnt bother to read comment boards but sigh....i dont Kpop is always full of trash talk to me ever since i followed Kpop as a Sone, it's indeed getting more & more exhausted tho but i think it's just because i'm (we're) just getting old Your gen had it bad imo.....that was when the really bad fanwars begun When i entered kpop it was relatively peaceful with rain,hyori,boa,seven,shinhwa, ss501 and tvxq regining.....there were debates among intl fans but not to the degree that begun to develop starting 08 onwards..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante. 7,795 Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Netizenbuzz comments give me a migraine tbh....but kpop is my only legit hobby outside real life and i have been with it for 11 yrs now.... :( Things were bad back then but there was a pretty bold line on who the haters and fans are, but nowadays fans easily get suspicious on who fake fans are that it tends to be uncomfortable....you become too careful lest they tag you as such ahh i see what you mean now... yea. it's sad. i think bc there's just so many trolls who cosplay as fans these days to bring hate to a group, people are just overly defensive & assume everyone who shares smth slightly negative about their favs are just trolls/antis. it's not right but that's just how it is right now :( someone above suggested sticking to artist threads and that's a good idea. most threads have a no-negging rule (maybe all of them do idk) but it's a good place to express ur opinions/post things w.o backlash that might not be taken as well out in the general threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyooga 10,307 Posted April 4, 2016 Author Share Posted April 4, 2016 ahh i see what you mean now... yea. it's sad. i think bc there's just so many trolls who cosplay as fans these days to bring hate to a group, people are just overly defensive & assume everyone who shares smth slightly negative about their favs are just trolls/antis. it's not right but that's just how it is right now :( Especially me since i have no kpop fan friends irl....the only way to discuss it is with kpop fans online The thing is i prefer discussing it neutrally.....so i might really express my opinion but others immediately tag you as a troll when your just genuinely curious what other people think regarding that topic but people immediately think you just wanna stir trouble.... What strikes me now is fans want to win debates and prove theyre right while in the past its more about reasoning out your points and just sharing your opinion..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CareBear08 7,527 Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 thanks for the suggest! If knly i had kpop fan friends irl i probz wouldnt bother to read comment boards but sigh....i dont No problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CareBear08 7,527 Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 The thing is i prefer discussing it neutrally.....so i might really express my opinion but others immediately tag you as a troll when your just genuinely curious what other people think regarding that topic but people immediately think you just wanna stir trouble.... What strikes me now is fans want to win debates and prove theyre right while in the past its more about reasoning out your points and just sharing your opinion..... You could do what some people do. They will leave their thoughts and opinions out there but only respond to people worth responding to. You don't have to respond to everybody that quotes/replies to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintat 4,072 Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Just don't worry about negs and replies. I often ignore people when they quote me with some nonsense and I don't notice if I get neg unless I re-visit a thread for some reason. It's pretty useless to worry about those things and think about other fans being too sensible. I think you just need to recognize when you're dealing with delusional fans that will defend anything vs. someone more rational with whom you can have a conversation. Personally, I prefer to stay on my faves official thread here and in other social networks I also only check stuff about my faves and ignore the rest. It's just a hobby so if it isn't entertaining anymore you should back off from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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