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This topic has been discussed a lot already, but with Produce 101 entering its final week, i'm making a thread because this is where the sh*t really hits the fan.

 

A lot of people will be very angry that i'm trying to influence the way people vote, but i am DEAD SERIOUS about this, and if even just one person changes their vote after reading what i have to say, it's worth it.

 

 

The Active Groups Principle

 

First of all, i blame Mnet for allowing the exception to be made for certain trainees to "temporarily leave" their still-active groups in order to join Produce 101. I also blame these trainees' companies for being greedy and wanting the best of both worlds. Where are the rules for qualification then? If one group can do this, then why can't other rookies? 

 

As of episode 10, only 2 contestants who have active groups waiting for them remain: Cathy (Ki Huihyeon) and Jung Chaeyeon from MBK, members of rookie girl group DIA. Furthermore, they would be in the final top 11 if it were based on the latest rankings (without benefit points) - in spoiler

 

 

 

We all know why Cathy and Chaeyeon are participating in Produce 101 - to gain experience, exposure, popularity and new fans, and to bring that back to DIA eventually. I don't mind this as much.

 

However, having made it this far in the competition, they have already achieved this goal. To actually debut with the project group would not add anything and may potentially undermine the objective of boosting DIA:

 

1. The hype is at its peak now. Once the group actually debuts, no one knows whether it will slay or flop.

 

2. While Cathy and Chaeyeon are away from DIA, it's unlikely their new fans from Produce 101 will support DIA.

 

3. DIA's own activities will be negatively affected to some extent by the absence of their 2 popular members. It was rumored that a planned comeback last month was put on hold indefinitely, and see how Kwon Eunbean's uncertain status on the show messed up CLC's comeback.

 

4. If Cathy and Chaeyeon return to DIA only after the one year is over, no one knows whether the hype might have already died down by then.

 

5. On the other hand, if they returned to DIA now, they would be bringing back maximum benefit from the show.

 

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More important, if they actually made it into the final lineup, this would come at a HUGE cost to 2 real trainees suffering the loss of a precious immediate chance to debut.

 

What makes a trainee's life so stressful? 

- They all have training debts with their companies

- It's a high-risk gamble for a small chance at debuting, which is every trainee's dream

- There are many many factors that may result in a trainee failing to debut, such as limited resources at the company, last minute lineup changes, concept changes etc.

 

However, once a group debuts, the welfare of members is relatively better protected because they have contracts with the company. It's not so easy to simply change the lineup/kick out members, for example. And they earn money, which pays off their debts.

 

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Before people start accusing me, no i am not doing this just for my favorites. I'm being rational and trying to suggest a way to maximise benefits for everyone. The girls who could otherwise debut might not be Chaekyung, it might be Park Soyeon, or Hyeri, or Yeunjung, or even Doyeon. Or anyone still remaining.

 

At this point, we've all grown attached to all the girls. And to me, they're all qualified, they all have something to offer the group, and they're all deserving. I myself like Chaeyeon and i'm happy she's gained so much from the show, but actually debuting would be going too far.

 

What would Cathy and Chaeyeon gain for winning compared to returning to DIA? Nothing more than bragging rights and some extra cash. But this is FAR outweighed by the losses suffered by the other contestants and even to DIA. 

 

>>>> So, please, when you vote this week, as long as you love other girls besides Cathy and Chaeyeon, please reconsider who you give your vote to. <<<<

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Posted · Hidden by Paper Ice Cream, March 26, 2016 - No reason given
Hidden by Paper Ice Cream, March 26, 2016 - No reason given

all i know is DO NOT vote for Jeon Somi

 

This isn't the place to flame other trainees (or any trainees for that matter), i think Somi deserves it as much as anyone else.

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Posted · Hidden by Paper Ice Cream, March 26, 2016 - No reason given
Hidden by Paper Ice Cream, March 26, 2016 - No reason given

This isn't the place to flame other trainees (or any trainees for that matter), i think Somi deserves it as much as anyone else.

she's white

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I am still confused to how Dia's company can allow 2 of it's member to join a competition and potentially join another group.

You would think that they would have a clause in their contract to forbid that.

 

Ah well I am neutral about it, and will not vote for them anyway.

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Posted · Hidden by Paper Ice Cream, March 26, 2016 - No reason given
Hidden by Paper Ice Cream, March 26, 2016 - No reason given

all i know is DO NOT vote for Jeon Somi

 

Lmao do you not understand that that video is trolling? Especially with all the misspellings and the part about her being half white. No one would be that dumb if they actually hated her and wanted a convincing argument against her.

 

But then again, Poe's Law, you know  :ninja:

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no thanks lol ppl r gna vote for whoever they want and that's how these things shld work.  that's.. the purpose of the show.  if it's not based on talent (which it isn't and it shouldn't be because idol groups in general are not made based on who has the most talent..), it's mainly based on popularity.  cathy and chaeyeon are popular.  end.

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aren't you the one that always shit on cathy?

 

you and you "persuasive" ways again

 

 

also stop trying to twist your ways into making this about other trainees when the one you want it's already in top11, you never get tired, don't you?

 

Like i've said many times before:

 

I SWEAR ON MY LIFE

I'm not doing this because i want to hate Cathy, or for the sake of Chaekyung.

 

Also, shut up. This user NLKM_19 doesn't stan anyone on the show, and doesn't even vote. He just doesn't care.

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Posted · Hidden by Paper Ice Cream, March 26, 2016 - No reason given
Hidden by Paper Ice Cream, March 26, 2016 - No reason given

Like i've said many times before:

 

I SWEAR ON MY LIFE

I'm not doing this because i want to hate Cathy, or for the sake of Chaekyung.

 

Also, shut up. This user NLKM_19 doesn't stan anyone on the show, and doesn't even vote. He just doesn't care.

she

 

I may not vote but at least I don't write like 3 paragraph of side-eye shit about other girls lol

your shady ways are pathetic,

there is one episode left, people will vote for who they want stop wasting your time with this pettiness 

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Posted · Hidden by Paper Ice Cream, March 26, 2016 - No reason given
Hidden by Paper Ice Cream, March 26, 2016 - No reason given

Lmao do you not understand that that video is trolling? Especially with all the misspellings and the part about her being half white. No one would be that dumb if they actually hated her and wanted a convincing argument against her.

 

But then again, Poe's Law, you know  :ninja:

 

Lmao do you not understand I made that video?

 

But then again, Poe's Law, you know :ninja:

ugh, why bring Pinky into this?  :donthinkso:

 

Pinky and Somi are friends so stop trying to cause fanwars

 

Pinky hates somi. She even said so in one of the behind the scenes videos.

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there is one episode left

 

Precisely.

 

Everyone, i understand voting in the previous rounds was to get the girls to survive into the next round, but now it's the end-game, no turning back, please carefully rethink the consequences of your votes.

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Posted · Hidden by Paper Ice Cream, March 26, 2016 - No reason given
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Precisely.

 

Everyone, i understand voting in the previous rounds was to get the girls to survive into the next round, but now it's the end-game, no turning back, please carefully rethink the consequences of your votes.

 

"consequences" LMFAO honey it's a kpop girl group not a presidential election it's not that serious hahahahahh

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Pinky hates somi. She even said so in one of the behind the scenes videos.

link me a video for proof.

 

If you were a real Pinky fan you would know that she's friendly and lovable and doesn't hate anyone

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Posted · Hidden by Paper Ice Cream, March 26, 2016 - No reason given
Hidden by Paper Ice Cream, March 26, 2016 - No reason given

"consequences" LMFAO honey it's a kpop girl group not a presidential election it's not that serious hahahahahh

 

 

DEAD SERIOUS 

 

Trainees kill themselves over not being able to debut. Just an example.

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People are going to vote for who they like. It's a popularity contest after all.

Take Sohye for example, some people may see her as untalented and that she doesn't deserve a spot in Top 11 (not hating on Sohye here). But that's not going to stop fans from voting for her. 

 

Which is why I'm going to continue voting for my faves. 

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If Cathy and Chaeyeon don't make the final 11 it would be smart to put them back into DIA with Dani. 3 members might be able to boost the other 6.

 

I think whatever happens it's pretty bad to be in DIA right now. Cathy and Chayeon are assets to MBK with whatever happens. But the other DIA girls are expendable. MBK has shown no qualms in the past with pulling the plug on teams. Maybe MBK will just re-debut a whole new team in 2017 with Cathy, Chayeon, and Dani as the focus points and 2 or 3 other members.

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