amiaw 750 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 G-dragon was the first person to get me into Kpop so this isn't a hate post. I'm genuinely curious though- GD is known for being a Kpop genius but what does he do exactly that earns him that title? He isn't a triple threat- he doesn't act, he barely dances (and I know he can dance well, he just barely does it) and his fashion is only as "original" as half a dozen other people wearing the same designer.... I know he writes songs (so do a dozen other idols) but what songs has g-dragon written and composed that didn't have a co-lyricist or co-composer attached? Also, does GD play any instruments? Again, not a bashing thread. Just genuinely interested. Any GD fans care to educate me with receipts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diphylleia grayi 2,705 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Good luck with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HugeBoi Minos Wife 40,568 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 The royalties speak for themselves. He has always been getting credit and praises for being a good producer and lyricist, on top of being a skilled rapper (not the best but definitely unique by having his own style). Literally Google it and you will find your answer...he´s the mastermind behing BB biggest hits, hence why he was elevated to such position within the kpop world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Jung 19,680 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Good luck with this. and praying fro your safety OP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninedaysqueen 3,134 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 I'm not a fan of GD, but his discography and credits should speak for itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Devonne 272 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amiaw 750 Posted March 23, 2016 Author Share Posted March 23, 2016 Good luck with this. I appreciate your concern for my safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTI 7,016 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiramisu. 2,064 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 i'm taking this as a rhetorical question first of all but the discography and lists of his achievements will help rather than trying to spark a fire even if you didn't mean it hint: google Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HugeBoi Minos Wife 40,568 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 This was from 2013 so imagine now...the list got longer for sure http://onehallyu.com/topic/26314-the-complete-list-of-g-dragons-copyright-credits-2013/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HituKa 2,060 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 He technically has his hands all over every BIGBANG hits of course he does not to mention his influence over idol who started composing And not to mention the hits he has all by himself Nobody did that nobody will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amandha 802 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Yess https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/G-Dragon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BingeulBingeul 5,150 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 This tea is good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19082006 36 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen.Of.Vilebloods 1,948 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Yes A simple search on Google shows you why, you really don't need a thread for that ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickyNumbers 3,161 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Lennon and Mccartney always cowrote their things, but that doesn't make what they did any less notable. GD is a genius. that's all there is to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amiaw 750 Posted March 23, 2016 Author Share Posted March 23, 2016 This was from 2013 so imagine now...the list got longer for sure http://onehallyu.com/topic/26314-the-complete-list-of-g-dragons-copyright-credits-2013/ There are a lot of songs listed, only a few where he can claim writer/sole composer but like I said, I like Bigbang and GD but writing/co-composing doesn't mean you are the best Especially now that he has started repeating himself- crayon, mapsosa, bang bang bang all have the same stadium sound at the end of the song. He reuses lyrics constantly.. Crooked and Sober are 2 sides of the same coin.... What else does he do? Does he play piano? Guitar? The recorder? Does he choreograph? Asking because the thread about most accomplished idols had people like shindong who do a ton of behind the scenes stuff but aren't recognized like GD.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotYou 2,024 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Lennon and Mccartney always cowrote their things, but that doesn't make what they did any less notable. GD is a genius. that's all there is to it. i'm sitting here trying to understand how creating music with a partner makes you less "talented" now. Adele and the Beatles co-wrote a lot of their songs, are we going to start coming for their accomplishments too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepzCat 598 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Pretty much what most have said already. He technically has his hands all over every BIGBANG hits of course he does not to mention his influence over idol who started composing And not to mention the hits he has all by himself Nobody did that nobody will I agree with most of what you've said, I just don't get this last part. "Nobody did that nobody will." Are you saying he's the only K-pop artist to have a string of hit songs or is this just a summary of everything you said? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HugeBoi Minos Wife 40,568 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 There are a lot of songs listed, only a few where he can claim writer/sole composer but like I said, I like Bigbang and GD but writing/co-composing doesn't mean you are the best Especially now that he has started repeating himself- crayon, mapsosa, bang bang bang all have the same stadium sound at the end of the song. He reuses lyrics constantly.. Crooked and Sober are 2 sides of the same coin.... What else does he do? Does he play piano? Guitar? The recorder? Does he choreograph? Asking because the thread about most accomplished idols had people like shindong who do a ton of behind the scenes stuff but aren't recognized like GD.... Do you have to do a lot of things for being considered a genius? You just have to excel at something (even if its one) for people to acknowledge you. Many people are called "multitalented", triple threat but when you look closely, they´re really good at one thing and average at the other. Lies was written and composed by GD and it became BB break out song. GD is acknowledged because he is such a good producer and lyricist. He knows Big Bang color and knows how to make public friendly songs who receive a lot of from a large audience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruppi 9,190 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 He is very good at marketing himself ...he is probably the best in Kpop when it comes to that. Doesn't matter if other people are more talented, have better fashion or whatever if no one besides a few fans know about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amiaw 750 Posted March 23, 2016 Author Share Posted March 23, 2016 Ok there is stanning and then there is reaching. GD and the Beatles can't be compared. Yes they are/were both boy bands and they write catchy songs but that's about it. The Beatles revolutionized music and pretty much introduced the concept album/music video. They are legends. Kpop is good but it's never going to be revolutionary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HituKa 2,060 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Pretty much what most have said already. I agree with most of what you've said, I just don't get this last part. "Nobody did that nobody will." Are you saying he's the only K-pop artist to have a string of hit songs or is this just a summary of everything you said? Technically he is the only kpop idol to have like over 10 no.1 hit all under his name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bb4 25,058 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 look at all these people trying to downplay gd's achievements by using the excuse that he "co-wrote" them meanwhile you all go crazy when one of your writes a 20 second rap verse just accept that he is the king Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordKEN 1,608 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 GD was the first few idols to start getting involved in the production of the music, and actually excels in it. Many Koreans view idols as cookie-cutter manufactured dolls, even now, but back then it was worse. Lies was a hit, and the mediaplay YG did to showcase that it was GD who was behind that song elevated Big Bang to a position where they were seem as "out-of-the-norm" and "talented". He is also known to bring in new styles of music into Korea. I know many of you listen to his music and say they are songs you can hear on American music charts and nothing special, but these are all genres that many Koreans tend to back away from. For example: Crayon, Bang Bang Bang, etc. All of these may seem like nothing special when compared to American music, but it is new and different in Korea. Think about it, in Korea, they prefer ballads and acoustic music over anything else. When someone comes in and release Bang Bang Bang, it creates attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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