ethereal 20,923 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 bts is the only successful/popular/rising group that came out of 2013. the only one. a group from a small, barely known at the time company was able to sweep almost every single rookie award that year because there was literally no competition. a group with a debut that wasn't even all that astronomically successful took home all those awards. it's almost like it was fate. and now that momentum that put them on the map back then is slingshoting them to big time success today. i don't think a lot of people realize that's where it started for them. winning rookie awards made them known and made them seem like a threat even before they actually were a threat. so now to my question, where were the top companies in 2013? why didn't they utilize literally the only quiet year EVER for debuts? could you imagine if twice or red velvet or winner had debuted in 2013 with literally no competition? with no strong rookie competitors? the new generation would have started right then and there. but it's funny because seventeen and jyp's old planned girl group 6mix were both meant to debut in 2013. but it looks like god was on bts' side. i wonder if there will be another slow year for debuts in the near future and if any small company group will really be able to take advantage of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noon 20,968 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 2013 was such an oddly quiet year idk why i guess that was bc powerhouse exo debuted the year before but still either way im glad it happened the way it happened. more shine for bts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUMA-MON 12,792 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 2013 was exo year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
statics 3,108 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 woah, this actually made me think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyungwonho 687 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 They would have competition because of EXO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachygirl 5,018 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Well we did see alot of Winner in the survival show that year, but of course they debut more than a year later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethereal 20,923 Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 2013 was exo year They would have competition because of EXO. but i'm strictly talking about debuts here, if you didn't get that..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasta 5,874 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 I mean, that was Exo's breakout year. So it makes sense that SM wouldn't want to randomly debut some rookies due to lack of competition from other big companies when they had their own rookies to take care of. I can't speak for the other Big 3 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyungwonho 687 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 but i'm strictly talking about debuts here, if you didn't get that..... Okay, but "could you imagine if twice or red velvet or winner had debuted in 2013 with literally no competition?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicey babe 3,133 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 For SM because it was EXO year, it would be stupid to do it for their part. I don't know about others. but i'm strictly talking about debuts here, if you didn't get that..... I think you are the one who doen't get it, they are saying why SM didn't debut a boy group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethereal 20,923 Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 Okay, but "could you imagine if twice or red velvet or winner had debuted in 2013 with literally no competition?" with no ROOKIE competition jesus, my whole op is about the fact that bts won all the rookie awards in 2013. all eyes would have been on those groups as the power rookies if they debuted in 2013, that's all i'm saying. there was no need to bring up exo when it's not about exo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinn 1,981 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Gd's solo album also came out in 2013 making it my favorite year in kpop. It was still fun back then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESSON 11,205 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Why would SM debut a new group in 2013 when they were too busy solidifying EXO's position in the industry Too busy preparing for fx's masterpiece pink tape, created the iconic igab for SOSHI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modella 2,015 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 This bop came out so I can't complain This one too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Alien Oppa 4,218 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Fans Wars are the underrated things that fuel Hallyu.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethereal 20,923 Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 Why would SM debut a new group in 2013 whem they were too busy solidifying EXO's position in the industry is sm the only top company my post wasn't just about sm, but all TOP companies. YG, JYP, Cube, FNC ect ect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
____shawnee 4,118 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Maybe they didn't have groups ready you can't just pop em out the oven at the drop of a dime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToujoursSistar 7,681 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 I agree with op I can't see sm debuting a group cause they were too busy with exo who were still rookie but yg could have debuted that ngg . fnc had aoa who were also still rookies . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESSON 11,205 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 is sm the only top company my post wasn't just about sm, but all TOP companies. YG, JYP, Cube, FNC ect ect. I gave the reasoning behind SM since I'm more familiar with that label, I didn't claim they were the only top company lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepingDragon 1,099 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Ask YG, their NGG was supposed to debut that year, they even released teasers of the members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethereal 20,923 Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 I gave the reasoning behind SM since I'm more familiar with that label, I didn't claim they were the only top company lmao my bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ñyan 1,712 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 EXO did SM didn't need to debut another group when they had a rookie EXO YG also had Lee Hi at that moment as rookie dunno about JYP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossiblyMaybe 10,178 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Good topic, op There were a lot of factors that pushed BTS to the top other than just the year tho. A few other promising groups - LC9, History, Topp Dogg for ex- debuted but had issues from jump. Luckily, BTS had good management, for one, on their side. BUT if YG had gotten their shit together and pushed Winkon out by the end of 2013, who knows what would've happened. JYP almost made the deadline with GOT7, too. Who knows if things would be different for GOT7 if they'd been able to debut in time to get nominated for the 2013 rookie awards. I wonder if YG and JYP wonder about that too these days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onetooth 4,117 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 I doubt the companies go looking to go debut groups when it's "quiet". They debut when they're ready to debut. Plus, most big 3 groups don't really need quiet periods to get attention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpopking 905 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 I noticed this too when I was just getting into BTS. They literally had no competition on that year for the rookie awards. They're like in the middle it terms of age of kpop groups these days. Younger than the established groups, and older than the rookie groups. This is also why they are being compared to both older and younger groups because they have no one in their own year to be compared to. Personally, I think BTS have their own lane in the industry. Their success and growth is relatively slow compared to others but they are surely getting there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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