rayy 3,021 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 just my thought about the unbelievable amount of hate kangjoon is getting lately due to this controversy... I honestly didn't bother to speak up earlier but things were getting messier and I had to voice my opinion (this is gonna be a quite long essay so please bear with me) I still can't get why people are picking on the actors rather than criticizing the script?? It's obviously the PD/tvN fault but why are people being ugly to kangjoon instead?? why is he getting such unnecessary hate for just doing his job?? I genuinely feel like people are hating/bashing him just for the sake of hating, literally, because the amount of nonsense I've read these past couple days is just..unbelievable hating him because he improvises his lines so they can match up with the general flow of the drama which is something that actors all over the world do..... really?? how original more like.... hating him because you've never really liked him and suddenly this mess happened so you used it as an excuse to hate him, doesn't matter if It's the PD's fault, he was given the main lead screen time when he's just a supporting role so he MUST BE HATED. A LOT..... /pathetic tbh. what I really didn't like about this whole issue (aside from the unnecessary hate) was the fact that everyone suddenly become displeased with his acting in citt, he dropped from being praised left and right to highly criticized overnight, calling him overrated, a boring actor (yeh right then why were you praising him just a couple of weeks ago /sigh/)... I get that some got annoyed with InHo's character as he had more screen time than the main lead, I got frustrated as well when Yoojung barely appeared on ep 13-14, but hating the actor instead is a big NO..what did he do wrong to get all this hate?? all he did was to ACT, to follow the script he was given and improvise a couple of lines, because he's an ACTOR, that's his JOB, some will claim that even though, he was too clueless to not realize he had lots of screen time he had to speak up, well then, first of all, he wouldn't realize he had that much of a screen time because the PD/staff can still EDIT whatever scenes they want because EDITING exists, even Haejin's scenes were cut, he didn't know that his scenes were going to be cut, so basically kangjoon didn't know what scenes will be aired, all he did was to follow the script, and so did the remaining cast, secondly (in case you're still speculating he knew something fishy was going on) It's not like kangjoon can voice his opinions about the storyline, flow of the drama, script he's getting, please don't act like he's a powerhouse actor that has control over his roles or whatsoever, if he actually did tell the PD about it claiming that he won't shoot the scenes he was given then his career will be pretty much..over for people who are speculating he's sleeping with the PD, basically more screen time in exchange for sex...... /yikes well....I'm praying for your poor souls moving on to the "sponsor rumours", /takes a deep breath/ people will still speculate he got a sponsor no matter what so I'll just briefly pinpoint my point...so what are the roles that kangjoon had but were "too big for him"?? Cunning single lady? or perhaps The Suspicious Housekeeper? I honestly still can't get why people are speculating he got a sponsor when he's still doing supporting roles up to this day, 'Hwajung' is the only drama I can recall where he played a challenging/hard role (I wouldn't call it that big of a role bcs the drama didn't do that well anyways), the character he portrayed was much older than him (40s), and It was a Sageuk..if he really had a sponsor then why aren't his groupmates (5urprise) landing bigger drama/movies roles?? they should be on the same level as kangjoon or even higher if they had a sponsor, the thing is that kangjoon just got lucky thanks to 'CSL' and got popular bcs of Roommate, he then became a trendy rising actor..as for people who are claiming that the fact kangjoon has that much of screen time in CITT is because he has a sponsor, well then why didn't his ''sponsor'' get him a main lead role rather than a supporting role? he could've just got another drama where he plays the main lead if so, and objectively speaking, do you really think the PD will risk screwing her drama that has been getting positive reviews since the very 1st episode and has been anticipated for ages by cutting the main lead scenes who's no one other than Park Hae Jin, one of Korea's biggest actors just to promote a rookie actor who barely have any recognition among the public just because he wanted so?? does this even sound realistic... my point is that there is no way /quite impossible/ that kangjoon had something to do with this whole controversy, whether he had a sponsor or not, cutting the main lead and giving the 2nd lead more screen-time ain't a smart move, in fact It's a fucked up idea, and I don't think kangjoon is that clueless to risk ruining his career on his own accord. again, It was the PD's fault and I think everyone acknowledge that already, It's pretty evident that she has a habit of screwing her main leads over, and she did it more than once, even Knetizens admitted so..some are claiming that tvN gave inho more screen-time so they can promote kangjoon as he's landing their upcoming drama 'Entourage' drama, well in this case It stills not kangjoon's fault, nor even the PD's actually, if they ruined CITT to promote Entourage then the producing company is to blame for this mess. and can we stop already with the '"kangjoon and his piano as the leads..", ''Inho piano life..", "seo screen-time taker/stealer pretty boy'', etc' jokes because they're getting lame (ain't funny..never been actually...not buying it), commenting these jokes on every kangjoon article (I've read some on 'Entourage' cast articles as well like??) is highkey ridiculous. I can't help but wonder if another actor (def not a rookie nugu helpless actor) was the one who got into this mess, will he get all this amount of hateful comments...I honestly don't think he would, It's not the actor's fault anyways, but yeh kangjoon is still very new on the scene, so everyone gotta instantly jump on the hate bandwagon, ruin the kid's career and shatter his dream of acting... as an avid fan, It hurts to see kangjoon being involved in this mess, the hate he gets is uncalled for, It feels like all the love he got during the very first episodes was converted into hate, and now he's stuck with the ''troublesome actor'' tag, I lowkey wish he didn't take the role, he worked so hard for this drama, as hard as the other actors, you can tell he was really confident with this role, I've been staning kangjoon for so long but I've never seen him that passionate about a project before, he genuinely wanted to take part of CITT...unfortunately, all he got as a reward was plain hate, I feel bad for him, for Haejin, GoEun, and the whole cast, they were all affected by this issue....It sucks, really, just when he started getting his name out there, tvN screwed him over, why did they do him so dirty?? he doesn't deserve this bullshit, nor do Haejin & the citt cast... lastly, why can't people just move on and leave him alone ;_; if you're just going to ignore this whole post and comment unnecessary hateful comments then kindly leave the thread... #kangjoonprotectionsquad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reiz 1,275 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Havent watch the drama, but hopefully his appearance in LOTJ tonight will bring positive response xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiramisu. 2,064 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 i didn't bother reading this but wth did kangjoon have to do with the scripts, all he did was flawlessly act it out and he did, if they want to blame it on anyone, blame it on the PD, although i think there is nothing wrong with the drama and it was all fairly divided Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sublime 2,137 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Tldr I still like him I just hate the script. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante. 7,795 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESSON 11,205 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 He admitted he suggested changes to the script and said the changes are apparent if you compare the original script with the drama, meanwhile Park Haejin had to adjust himself according to that, like this is some new level of oppalogist shit lmao writing a whole essay People have enough reasons to believe he may have gotten special treatment either because of his label or the PD's involvement with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayy 3,021 Posted March 4, 2016 Author Share Posted March 4, 2016 i didn't bother reading this but wth did kangjoon have to do with the scripts, all he did was flawlessly act it out and he did, if they want to blame it on anyone, blame it on the PD, although i think there is nothing wrong with the drama and it was all fairly divided I thought that people were being ugly to kangjoon because they were getting annoyed with Inho character as he had lots of screetime in the latest episodes (still not a legit reason to hate the actor tbh) but apparently they're just hating for the sake of hating /sigh/. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayy 3,021 Posted March 4, 2016 Author Share Posted March 4, 2016 He admitted he suggested changes to the script and said the changes are apparent if you compare the original script with the drama, meanwhile Park Haejin had to adjust himself according to that, like this is some new level of oppalogist shit lmao writing a whole essay People have enough reasons to believe he may have gotten special treatment either because of his label or the PD's involvement with him. can you list these reasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiramisu. 2,064 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 I thought that people were being ugly to kangjoon because they were getting annoyed with Inho character as he had lots of screetime in the latest episodes (still not a legit reason to hate the actor tbh) but apparently they're just hating for the sake of hating /sigh/. it's really pissing me off because there's nothing he can do about it since it wasn't between his hands and nothing to apologise for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESSON 11,205 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 can you list these reasons? lol cmon, cutting out main's scenes for him, allowing him to modify the script, inviting him to the vacation but forgetting about the main like isn't it suspicious, but you keep supporting oppa, innocent until proven guilty after all~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayy 3,021 Posted March 4, 2016 Author Share Posted March 4, 2016 lol cmon, cutting out main's scenes for him, allowing him to modify the script, inviting him to the vacation but forgetting about the main like isn't it suspicious, but you keep supporting oppa, innocent until proven guilty after all~ you literally just ignored that longass post lol.... anyways what does any of this have to do with kangjoon?? how is it his fault?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelanatedBeauty 13,655 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 He admitted he suggested changes to the script and said the changes are apparent if you compare the original script with the drama, meanwhile Park Haejin had to adjust himself according to that, like this is some new level of oppalogist shit lmao writing a whole essay People have enough reasons to believe he may have gotten special treatment either because of his label or the PD's involvement with him. oooo yikes...he shouldn't have said that.... He's still a good actor though so... people can really stop spouting their "he aint that great" bullshit..bet you if lee byungshit wasn't acknowledged by hollywood it would be the same "he aint that great an actor" bs too.. you literally just ignored that longass post lol.... anyways what does any of this have to do with kangjoon?? how is it his fault?? girllllllllllllllllllllll I haven't read up about this controversy but the tea scents in here are strong ESPECIALLY that vacation bit... and I dont see you denying what that person said so.. -sips my lipton- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayy 3,021 Posted March 4, 2016 Author Share Posted March 4, 2016 oooo yikes...he shouldn't have said that.... girllllllllllllllllllllll I haven't read up about this controversy but the tea scents in here are strong ESPECIALLY that vacation bit... and I dont see you denying what that person said so.. -sips my lipton- modifying the script means improvising and changing lines, It's not like he can change the SCENES and the amount of screentime Haejin gets, is he the PD/writer of the drama by any chance?? you didn't read up abt the controversy so you obviously didn't get the mess yet, Haejin's scenes were cut, why would he join the cast and "the PD" on the vacation smh, tvN did him so dirty there is no way they would invite him to that vacation nor would he accept the offer and join them, the PD didn't even apologize to Haejin, I'm a fan of Haejin myself way before getting to know kangjoon so I do feel sorry for him, I genuinely do, but blaming kangjoon instead as he's the one who cut his scenes is honestly ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
酒� 1,769 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 people "hate" on him because -things he said about "him can change script' (but he "denied it later like wtf?") -he "supposedly" pd favorite and or he "got some sponsor on his back!!" -people felt cheated (they of course hate the pd in the first place) and he's the 'cheating' character -because they want and they can. lol i read the first chapters of webtoon and it seems cool but not bother to continue it. suck that the drama done bad. feel bad for the author, the audience, the webtoon fans, the story, the real main character and important characters, phj cos he's mainly used only for his popularity in china, and maybe for skj cos he gets unnecessary hate. well honestly i wont say its unnecessary. i dont bother to read that long ass op post cos i dont really know about this but negs on op....? is it because really tldr or because the content? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dupladé 2,865 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Lol at people thinking a rookie actor has enough power to basically kick out PHJ. It is more believable that the pd has a problem with PHJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESSON 11,205 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 you literally just ignored that longass post lol.... anyways what does any of this have to do with kangjoon?? how is it his fault?? I'm not hating on him btw, I'm just being objective. A lot of people are just victimising him all of a sudden and that leaves a bad taste in my mouth bec I really liked the main and I feel it was rly unfair on how he was treated. Sure it was not his fault, but why did the PD do all those things? Makes you wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khyve 214 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 He admitted he suggested changes to the script and said the changes are apparent if you compare the original script with the drama, meanwhile Park Haejin had to adjust himself according to that, like this is some new level of oppalogist shit lmao writing a whole essay People have enough reasons to believe he may have gotten special treatment either because of his label or the PD's involvement with him. You're being intentionally obtuse, in the interview it sounded like the production staff allowed him to improvise, which most actors will be able to get away with if they think they can deliver a line better. That's a whole different ballgame from changing the actual story. Script != Plotlines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESSON 11,205 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 You're being intentionally obtuse, in the interview it sounded like the production staff allowed him to improvise, which most actors will be able to get away with if they think they can deliver a line better. That's a whole different ballgame from changing the actual story. Script != Plotlines ...right, just portray me as a hater to get your point across, ok... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayy 3,021 Posted March 4, 2016 Author Share Posted March 4, 2016 people "hate" on him because -things he said about "him can change script' (but he "denied it later like wtf?") -he "supposedly" pd favorite and or he "got some sponsor on his back!!" -people felt cheated (they of course hate the pd in the first place) and he's the 'cheating' character -because they want and they can. lol i read the first chapters of webtoon and it seems cool but not bother to continue it. suck that the drama done bad. feel bad for the author, the audience, the webtoon fans, the story, the real main character and important characters, phj cos he's mainly used only for his popularity in china, and maybe for skj cos he gets unnecessary hate. well honestly i wont say its unnecessary. i dont bother to read that long ass op post cos i dont really know about this but negs on op....? is it because really tldr or because the content? - he didn't deny it tho, he claimed he changed his LINES but he never admitted that he changed the SCENES, he said plenty of times that he improvised some of his lines so I don't get why people are using that to hate him. - well if the PD likes him then....please excuse his good looks (unpopular opinion). - I get that people are annoyed with his citt character but why hating the actor instead?? all he did was to act, and follow the script he was given, bcs he's an actor, that's his job. - I said it earlier, people hate him for the sake of hating, sadly. I don't know why I'm getting negged as well, I didn't mean to offend anyone, really, just stating my view on the controversy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayy 3,021 Posted March 4, 2016 Author Share Posted March 4, 2016 I'm not hating on him btw, I'm just being objective. A lot of people are just victimising him all of a sudden and that leaves a bad taste in my mouth bec I really liked the main and I feel it was rly unfair on how he was treated. Sure it was not his fault, but why did the PD do all those things? Makes you wonder. but It was pretty evident that the PD has a habit to screw her main characters over, she apparently did it more than once, Knetizens admitted so as well... aside from this, objectively speaking, do you really think a rookie actor that barely have a recognition among the public has enough power to get rid of haejin's scenes (one of Korea's top actors) and ruin the whole drama just because he felt like so and happened to have a sponsor to back him up?? do you think the PD & tvN will risk screwing such a highly anticipated drama as CITT and get sworn at by viewers just to promote a rookie actor?? this doesn't sound realistic to me at all, sure I don't know what the truth is, no one does actually, but I truly think that blaming kangjoon isn't the right thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khyve 214 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 ...right, just portray me as a hater to get your point across, ok... You realise earlier in this very thread you dismissed peoples opinions by calling them "oppalogist" and oppa supporters right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
酒� 1,769 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 - he didn't deny it tho, he claimed he changed his LINES but he never admitted that he changed the SCENES, he said plenty of times that he improvised some of his lines so I don't get why people are using that to hate him. - well if the PD likes him then....please excuse his good looks (unpopular opinion). - I get that people are annoyed with his citt character but why hating the actor instead?? all he did was to act, and follow the script he was given, bcs he's an actor, that's his job. - I said it earlier, people hate him for the sake of hating, sadly. I don't know why I'm getting negged as well, I didn't mean to offend anyone, really, just stating my view on the controversy... -people misread/misunderstood/missing important details. dont expect too much from human lol. -....actually its his 1000% fault for being too irresistable for pd (lol) -idgi either. maybe because his statement? like i said people misunderstood, they twist and switch things to match what they want -yeh oh, maybe because its...you? i mean if your name doesnt give it away you're one of his (and fantagio) biggest fan that "this post gonna be too biased *hits neg*" if maybe he didnt say that he change anything or whatever, idt he'd blamed(?) and hated this much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayy 3,021 Posted March 4, 2016 Author Share Posted March 4, 2016 -people misread/misunderstood/missing important details. dont expect too much from human lol. -....actually its his 1000% fault for being too irresistable for pd (lol) -idgi either. maybe because his statement? like i said people misunderstood, they twist and switch things to match what they want -yeh oh, maybe because its...you? i mean if your name doesnt give it away you're one of his (and fantagio) biggest fan that "this post gonna be too biased *hits neg*" if maybe he didnt say that he change anything or whatever, idt he'd blamed(?) and hated this much. oh so that's why lol ..come to think abt it I think that people thought I was shielding him while being a typical delulu fan, when I actually was just stating facts, I didn't offend Haejin nor anyone on my post either, sure I don't know what the actual truth behind the controversy, in fact no one does, but I don't think that blaming kangjoon is the right thing to do tbh, and that ain't a biased opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinister Panda 1,128 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 People are so.... sigh. What he meant changing scripts was improvising the dialogue. not changing the scenes/situations. If he has the power to change the situation. It will be him who will end up with Hong Seol ! He didn't even have any kiss scene in the drama. Not even a peck ! Dear god. Do you people even understand English? This is what happened when people don't know anything about acting methods and just assumed everything is like how u understand it. and read the goddamn op long post before you throwing hate you dumbo ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinister Panda 1,128 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 ...right, just portray me as a hater to get your point across, ok... He didn't change the storyline. He change his own dialogue. He improvised it. If you know the basics in acting you'll know what he was talking about. For example, the script was supposed to say like this "dog fur, you look old today". He can improvise it into "dog fur, I thought you was my grandmother" See? It's the same but different and more fun. You can improvise and change it as u pleases. BUT WITHOUT CHANGING THE STORYLINE AND MEANING. The storyline? is up for the PD to change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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