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But they use American choreographers that American stars use tho.

but other then Beyonce ... who does Choreo in USA anymore? 

 

Its like a dying art  for artist to do... instead they put dancers in the vids to dance instead  of themselves ... I dont mind it since I love dance but it would be nice if artist could do it all again... but they don't

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but other then Beyonce ... who does Choreo in USA anymore? 

 

Its like a dying art  for artist to do... instead they put dancers in the vids to dance instead  of themselves ... I dont mind it since I love dance but it would be nice if artist could do it all again... but they don't

 

Ciara, Tinashe, Gaga (most of the time) :happy:

 

IA tho. Western artist are really lazy when it comes to performances and dancing

 

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She better stan for the god of dance tho

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Thats true.... damn I almost forgot Gaga dances...

 

It's not lazy, it's that most Western singers/musicians are vocalists first or play an instrument; dancing except in R&B/Urban groups used to be there to distract you from singers who couldn't sing, like Britney Spears or Madonna. Those types of artists can't just stand under a spotlight and sing, like an Adele or a Kelly Clarkson.

 

That said, maybe you meant Caucasian pop stars because many Western artists of color still have choreo even when they get old - remember Michael Jackson was 50 when he passed and still doing his thing.  And what of Missy Elliot, Ciara, Janelle Monae, Bruno Mars, Usher, Chris Brown, Gwen Stefani, Nicki Minaj, Katy Perry, Justin Timberlake, etc.?

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First of all, we have to look at how Korea is dominated mainly by pop and the USA by rap and hip hop which are two different genres and styles. Rappers don't dance. They grind, wine and bounce and throw up a multitude of hand gestures, but they are not dancers. Nicki, Tyga, Drake, Lil Wayne, Jay Z, Kanye, Snoop D, Kendrick L, Busta Rhymes, Rick Ross, T.I, Trina and ect. They write their lyrics, they compose their beats and arrange their music and will spit rhymes for days but they are NOT dancers and it's ridiculous to compare something like GFRIEND to A$AP Rocky and have the same expectations.

Still though, there are plenty of artists who do dance, (The R&B/ Dance Pop/ Reggae) just because they're not in sync with their BGD or going ham doesn't mean that they are bad dancers or incapable. Kpop is systematic in which they train their idols for months to years to be able to dance the way they do, in America it's either you got it or you don't. Tinashe, Chris Brown, Beyonce, Usher, Janet Jackson, Justin Beiber, Zendaya, Trey Songz, Ciara, Justin Timberlake and more are all dancers and they are good at it.

And then you have your vocalists like Mariah, Alicia, Ariana for example who can groove time to time but are less casual dancers and more powerhouse. Another serious point is how in KPOP, age is an important thing; "has-beens" are replaced by younger idols who have the youth and energy to bust moves and perform for hours at a time without losing momentum. It's not that way in America. If you are liked, then your age is unimportant (Imagine how shocked people in Korea would be if they knew how most of the popular acts in the USA are in their 30's). 

I seriously hate it when you got these fools comparing two different markets and always trying to make more seem better than the other when its apples and oranges.

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It's not lazy, it's that most Western singers/musicians are vocalists first or play an instrument; dancing except in R&B/Urban groups used to be there to distract you from singers who couldn't sing, like Britney Spears or Madonna. Those types of artists can't just stand under a spotlight and sing, like an Adele or a Kelly Clarkson.

 

That said, maybe you meant Caucasian pop stars because many Western artists of color still have choreo even when they get old - remember Michael Jackson was 50 when he passed and still doing his thing.  And what of Missy Elliot, Ciara, Janelle Monae, Bruno Mars, Usher, Chris Brown, Gwen Stefani, Nicki Minaj, Katy Perry, Justin Timberlake, etc.?

I'm talking current. Not the past. I know all that. Like current artist dont dance. I know Zendaya does time to time and  Tinashe ..

 

 

But can you call put Katy Perry an Gwen in the same breathe as others you named. Everyone you named has 10+ years or 8 in ENT .... so thats not "current" they came from an Era where you had TO DANCE

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but other then Beyonce ... who does Choreo in USA anymore? 

 

Its like a dying art  for artist to do... instead they put dancers in the vids to dance instead  of themselves ... I dont mind it since I love dance but it would be nice if artist could do it all again... but they don't

 

Ciara, Chris Brown, Justin Bieber Jennifer Lopez, Jason Derulo, Bruno Mars,  Rhianna dances a little

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I'm talking current. Not the past. I know all that. Like current artist dont dance. I know Zendaya does time to time and  Tinashe ..

 

 

But can you call put Katy Perry an Gwen in the same breathe as others you named. Everyone you named has 10+ years or 8 in ENT .... so thats not "current" they came from an Era where you had TO DANCE

 

Fifth Harmony, Little Mix they all dance

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