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I haven't seen anyone posting streaming sites (and I'm not sure which sites people usually use to stream dramas), but I'm sure fans will post some links soon. ^^

 

people use either Viki, Dramafever, DramaFire, Dramanice, etc to stream dramas. I prefer DramaFire since they get episodes out faster than Viki. 

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I just watched the first episode and:

 

 

 

Okay yeah IU's wide eye expressions when taken out of context can be seen as awkward, but when you look at the situation she was put in, it makes sense why she's being like that. I mean she thought she died only to wake up in another person's body in the Goryeo period. Not to mention she was scared. 

 

That poor horse, though. :( 

 

I'm not sure why that astronomer or whoever he is was wearing goggles since I don't think goggles existed in Korea yet?

 

The OST is awkward and doesn't really match the drama. Even though MDBC also has modern songs for its OST, at least they weren't inserted awkwardly like in SHR. It makes the drama look like a modern Kdrama with a saeguk feel.

 

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the scene where So tried to help Haesoo carry the food basket but failing to get it out of her grasp was so cute and funny lol

 

and looks like he has a change of heart for her now that he's seen how she's the only one showing compassion for him when no one else does.

 

 

 

So I actually really like this drama along with Moonlight. I don't know why the two series keep getting compared. Yes they both are going on at the same time, and based in the past but that's it. IU and Baekhyun also are not that bad. There are so many other tv shows that have much more cringe worthy performances. It could be that I have a bias for IU since I really liked her acting and story line from Dream High.

 

It's ridiculous that when people compared her and Suzy (since they are both idol actresses)  and some were saying they both are bad but Suzy's acting makes up with her being pretty. Am I alone in thinking that both are really pretty? I also think this is an interesting twist with a modern person being transported into the past. Usually they are trying hard to find a way to get back, but IU's character is content with staying. I really hope at some point she lets it slip/tells someone she's from the future. Doesn't always happen but it's fun to see the reaction from the characters from the past. It's also more drama focused then Moonlight so it's hard to even begin to compare. They offer different things. Can't wait to see how the rest of the drama unfolds. 

 

well, this is an adaptation from the Chinese original Bu Bu Jing Xin. I don't think in the original Scarlet Heart Ruoxi (Haesoo's Chinese counterpart) ever told anyone she's from the future so there won't be any of that in this one if the Korean version wants to keep close to the original story. Also, it's not that she doesn't want to go back to her times, it's that she can't. Her soul is stuck in Haesoo's body. I didn't watch the original Chinese version to see how Ruoxi returned to her own body, but it seems Ruoxi was pretty much stuck in the past for pretty much the entire series considering how that was the whole premise of Bu Bu Jing Xin. 

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Yeah. Just thinking about it makes me puke. Haha.Glad we're 1000 years ahead of Goryeo era. :lol:

royal intermarriage was so common globally in the past it's insane. Like the most notable example is the Hapsburg family of Austria (and because they've been intermarrying so much children down the line developed deformities)

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the puppet show Baekhyun did at the beginning was so hilarious 

 

also I did not expect him to be disguised as Haesoo while Haesoo rode away with So.

 

and we already know that So is Gwangjong, but will we see him kill his brothers in this timeline? His regime IRL lasted 26 years and had three stages: the period of grouping, the period of strengthening power, and the period of purge, and I doubt Soo will be in Goryeo that long enough to see him live out his reign.

 

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IRL, who became the next king? I tried to do some googling was is So? and in the show it said he killed all his brothers.

Can someone confirm for me please.

 

 

and personally i liked this episode. But next episode looks really fun, i'm excited.

 

Yeah, it's So, but on Wikipedia it didn't mention anything about him killing all his brothers, just that he squashed his political rivals. 

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Episode 6

 

Just sayin, 10th Prince and Hae Soo's little moments are some of my fave parts  :chu: So cute  :chu: I liked how while the princes tried to block her marriage, it was ultimately her action that stopped it. Cutting yourself, and on the wrist???? Damn girl. And she got off pretty lightly... Well, I guess we'll see exactly how her conditions are as a ??? maid. Tea maid? Idk. I was also surprised to learn she's supposed to be 29..... I was thinking 16, 18 tops  :lol:

 

 

Chinese version spoiler:

 

Ruoxi knew the fates of those around her, who would be emperor and who would die etc, and she suffered so much over it. Basically had a breakdown when she realized her pivotal role in the events of history unfolding around her (her warnings to 8th prince). Hae Soo on the other hand doesn't really remember history and doesn't seem to be thinking that way, at least not yet. So I'm very interested to see how this show will handle Hae Soo's role in all of the upcoming mess between the princes, if they'll go the original route or something more lighthearted :hmmmm: 

 

 

 

 

Wasn't it 14th Prince yelling at her last time?  :unsure: I'm not sure myself... I agree with you the marriage totally came out of nowhere

 

 

but it mentions on every Scarlet Heart Ryeo summaries that Haesoo is 16, though...so I think 29 is referring to someone else? 

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Your interpretation of Wang So character sounds right. He isnt able to give love properly because he hasnt received any while growing up...this would explain him being insecure, constantly defensive and unable to trust anyone. Haesoo would have to "change" him for them to have an healthy relationship and unless she succeeds, things would be hard for the both of them. I could imagine the writer choosing a sad ending too...Haesoo going back to the real world without choosing any of them. But then again koreans viewers really hate sad endings (especially if one of the lead dies...it will be a mess) so I guess she will most likely end with one of them, either in Goryeo or with a reincarnation in modern times, who knows...

 

 

 

I don't think she'll remain with them in Goryeo since that's not how it ended in the Chinese version. She'll probably go back to her own time, or it'll end like the original (which I read is a sad ending)

 

 

 

wow the villagers in this episode...so hypocritical...they mock and throw dirt at So when he had his mask on and then start worshiping him after Haesoo hid his scar with makeup.

 

And now that Haesoo realized that Gwangjong is So, judging by episode 9 preview she seems to start acting differently around him

 

(also how long is she going to be at the Damiwon because I can't stand seeing her in that ugly court lady attire. I want her back in those pretty hanboks again)

 

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I really like IU's tone when she got slapped by Concubine Oh. I think that's IU's best scene so far.

The scene where she realized Wang So was Wang Jong is superb!

After a few rush episodes, ep 8 delivered a fast-paced yet reasonable and intense performance. I hope the rating will continue to rise.

 

 

Gwangjong, not Wang Jong. Gwangjong is one name, not two.

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why is this drama trying to make So seems like a bad king? from what i read about him as a king in wiki, he seems like a good king tbh. yeah he did kill ppl but they are rebels including few princes, not sure who are the princes tho. unless thats how the character supposed to be in the original novel?

The original novel took place in the Qing Dynasty of China, not Korea. Remember that this is an adaptation from the Chinese novel. And it did say on the 2nd sentence of his Wiki entry "He was known for squashing his political rivals and creating an atmosphere of fear within the political realm at the time" so he wasn't exactly a nice or merciful king.

 

And this was the description of Gwangjong on a blog article for the drama Shine or Go Crazy which also features Gwangjong as a character: http://kpopfighting.com/2014/10/31/jang-hyuk-and-oh-yeon-seo-to-star-in-shine-or-go-crazy/

 

"Gwangjong was a king who instituted a number of reforms in early Goryeo, and was a pivotal figure in ensuring the stability of the nation and society. But he also carried out a number of bloody purges in the name of strengthening royal authority, and was thus nicknamed as the ‘crazy king.’"

 

So while he was influential he was also ruthless, violent, and merciless.

 

EDIT: also according to this

 

 

 

Choe Seung-ro (최승로; 崔承è€), a historian who served as Prime Minister to the first six Goryeo kings, including King Taejo, wrote a book criticizing Gwangjong for driving the kingdom into debt by being too obsessed with Buddhist activities, rituals, and public projects. He declared that the first eight years of Gwangjong’s reign had been peaceful, because he ruled wisely and did not mete out harsh punishments, but that afterwards, he had become a tyrant, spending money lavishly, tolerating corruption and executing anyone who opposed his policies of centralization. Late in his life, Gwangjong began to build numerous Buddhist temples; scholars speculate that perhaps he had repented for killing so many powerful people and wished to calm the resentment he had aroused.
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It is my idea or Seon Deok is a reference to Deok Seon from Reply 1988? The actor who is her father was the father of the protagonist on every Reply series, I don't know if it's an obvious reference

 

About the episode

 

There is something that I don't understand, Hae Soo was given as a gift to Wang So but before this, the 8th prince said to her that he will talk to the king to let her go, I understood that he lose his chance but then he talked to her again after the announce of the funny wedding that he can't do this now because he lose his chance since it's his brother's wedding... So what about Wang So talking first to the king? The 8th prince lose his chance on that moment, I don't get it

 

 

And... I'm still not feeling this drama but I get an anual suscription to Dramafever just to watch the "complete" version, there are some things that look rushed on certain points

No, Seondeok is in reference to Queen Seondeok. There was an entire drama dedicated to her. IU sang an OST for that drama called Windflower. Seondeok and Deok Seon are two completely different names. Seondeok is one name whereas Deok Seon is a family name + first name.

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I'm so sad~

I don't want him to become a cruel person who kills his brothers for the crown  :rlytearpls:

Maybe he will still become Gwangjong, but end it peacefully  :rlytearpls:

 

Anyway, we still have to wait for 10 more episodes to know. Hopefully it won't be as tragic as the history  :rlytearpls:

 

according to a Korean redditor, the real Gwangjong irl didn't kill all his brothers, just Wang Won (the 9th prince) because he was accused of treason. He killed a lot of people, but the only brother he was recorded to have killed was the 9th prince. The other relatives he killed were Mu and Yo's sons.

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/KDRAMA/comments/53idpn/discussion_moon_lovers_scarlet_heart_ryeo_ep_8_9/

 

 

The real Gwangjong has only one official record of him actually killing one of his (half-)brothers. It is Wang Won, who is Prince 9 in MLSHR. Gwangjong accuses him of treason and executes him later.

Another thing I would like to point out is that history is often written from the winner's perspective. In the case of Gwangjong, his successors were not on his side (his own son even reverses some of the major policies he had introduced), so of course they're going to highlight things in a not-so-kind perspective.

Now, because the circumstances around the deaths of the two predecessors are also rather unusual, I think Gwangjong was probably involved with killing Mu and Prince Gwangjuwon (prince 10 in MLSHR), although it is more likely that Yo was the mastermind behind it.

Then of course, Yo himself feels weakened enough to abdicate the throne to So hoping to keep his son alive. However, Gwangjong does kill both Mu's and Yo's sons as they would have been a threat to him. Heck, historians think he would have killed his own son (later Gyeongjong) had he not been his only surviving son. (And with good reason, as that son cancels out many of his father's achievements when he sits on the throne. I wonder if it was Queen Daemok's influence, too. She was more aligned with the interests of the Hwangbo clan and was often against Gwangjong.)

Gwangjong is more known for killing off the powerful clans to reinforce the power of the throne. He freed some slaves (weakening the nobility) and introduced national exams for appointing court officers. At one point, somebody lamented that there were only 40 of the initial supporters of Wang Geon left out of the 3000+ who had helped found Goryeo.

The thing is, Goryeo is just a fledgling state that emerged as Silla fell. In fact, Wang Geon didn't even start out wanting to be king. He was helping someone else (Gung Ye) do that, but when Gung Ye became mad after founding his own kingdom, Wang Geon decided to step in and take over.

This means, any other powerful clans that helped him or not in the founding of Goryeo could challenge his throne. He overthrew a king, why couldn't they? So Wang Geon chose to marry many of the daughters of such clans (he had about 29 wives?), and also had children of the important families stay in the capital as wards (hostages).

Gwangjong is the Goryeo's equivalent of Joseon's Taejong in the sense that he paved the way for a stronger monarchy. The major difference between him and Lee Bang Won is that he only had one, not-so-good son whereas LBW had four to choose from, and he was willing to rock the boat to make sure the best prince would become the next king. Thanks to the sacrifices Taejong had made, King Sejong was able to rule in glory.

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I'm just...tonight's episode...I WASN'T READY. ALL THE TISSUES ARE NEEDED. :cry: :cry: :cry:

 

Also, they finally released this beautiful OST. God, it's so wonderful. It makes me tear up just listening to it. :rlytearpls:

 

finally i've been waiing for this ost since ep 5

 

 

and ugh Wook is really going to regret it down the road. You can already predict that he was going to abandon Haesoo the moment he found out his own sister was one of the culprits behind the poisoning

 

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damn that ending, I did not expect Baek Ah to suddenly realize what Woo Hee was up to and then put himself in the way of her sword

 

also, on Seohyun's Instagram there was a BTS pic of Haesoo putting bandage wraps around Woo Hee's wrist where she cut herself but I didn't see that in the international broadcast? 

 

instagram.com/p/BLFgIQwjk-9/ 

 

(how tf do you embed an IG post?)

 

and it seems the king has caught on that the Haesoo now is not from Goryeo and that she's possibly from somewhere else like Ji Mong, but doesn't know exactly who she is and where she came from. 

 

 

 

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There are two version, because as stated before, the pd doesn't really have time to edit the drama. He/She let another party did it and the first few episode received so many backlash from K-viewers that it needs to reedit. I personally like SBS version (the reedit version) better. The stry flows better and international version cut many important scene. Just like episode 12, Haesoo seems so heartless, when it is not the case. The SBS version is really worth to watch.

 

but doesn't the SBS version have some scenes missing, too? Knetizens complained about how in the SBS version, the part about Woo Hee revealing the reason why she's in Goryeo (to kill the king) was missing. 

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They omitted this scene ;___;

Btw check out mantou's twitter if you guys want to see the difference between the international and sbs ver. Though it's not much for the recent eps. only bg music was changed and some scenes were a few seconds longer.

 

I watched the episode on Dramafire and this scene was there? 

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