DocumentaLy 6,033 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 So I was going through my Disqus notices just now, and someone on Arama or MK (I don't remember which), called Kawatani Enon my "problematic fave." He's not a fave of mine really, but I openly say that I don't care about him cheating on his wife or lying about being married or whatever. Whatever happens to Becky happens to her because she's a non-entity to me. As long as the music is good, I'll be a fan still (how Fukase of SEKAI NO OWARI of me). But this got me thinking of other people that I like, and if they're problematic. I'm personally a hard person to offend, so some things that are problematic to others are nothing to me (hence why I sometimes say things and people take them a lot worse than what I intended). Anyway, I was thinking, and I remembered a conversation me and some people on JPS had about Shiina Ringo being an ardent nationalist. I remember reading a story a while back about how someone went to her concert and said it was like a right wing rally with all the appropriated rising sun flags. And then I remember reading another story about how some Korean and Chinese fans were mad about her last album cover. It's interesting though that her Taiwanese concert last year sold out and people were waving the flag in the picture above. Side note: LOL, aoe's similar thread: http://onehallyu.com/topic/144568-i-would-like-to-invite-all-korean-people-to-shiina-ringos-concert%E2%99%AA/ And apparently the lyrics to "NIPPON" were offensive to some: But apparently not offensive to that many since it ended up being a hit. Anyway, this conversation on JPS led to this "fan art": I couldn't stop laughing! Adding in Yukio Mishima was my idea, by the way. In the end, some people may find her nationalism offensive, but it doesn't bother me. I just see it as her being very into being Japanese. Also, I don't see people in Japanese music fandom being as PC as their Korean music counterparts. Like nobody gets bent out of shape about things like cultural appropriation for instance. So, does anyone else have any? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VerySappy 600 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Matsumura Sayuri, back when she had her scandal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMNDS&PRLS 2,420 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Only one time ...Team K Yuuhi Marie Video ♥ Probably not all that problematic frfr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acclaimâ„¢ 2,722 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 nishino kana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelisk 425 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 My ultimate fave is pretty clean, as I know. Maybe she's just not that popular, so people whould write dirty articles about her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun☼Shine 4,273 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Momoiro Clover Z. I'm so ashamed that I like them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aitso 407 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 I honestly don't know, I guess Lecca's use of black hairstyles is appropriative but I've never really given all that a whole lot of salt. I'm not aware of much she's done that's blatantly problematic. As for my more significant faves Namie/Utada/Goto Maki if they've done anything blatantly problematic then I guess there's that. Most of the time I really don't care what an artist does. Like I acknowledge it but I still enjoy their music. Unless they're just unabashedly shitty/racist/whatever. Jpop fans are a lot less vocal on such a wide scale in comparison to Kpop fans, which is probably why you don't hear them talk about it so often. I've seen a few people bring up various things about diff artists over the years tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocumentaLy 6,033 Posted January 18, 2016 Author Share Posted January 18, 2016 I honestly don't know, I guess Lecca's use of black hairstyles is appropriative but I've never really given all that a whole lot of salt. I'm not aware of much she's done that's blatantly problematic. As for my more significant faves Namie/Utada/Goto Maki if they've done anything blatantly problematic then I guess there's that. Most of the time I really don't care what an artist does. Like I acknowledge it but I still enjoy their music. Unless they're just unabashedly shitty/racist/whatever. Jpop fans are a lot less vocal on such a wide scale in comparison to Kpop fans, which is probably why you don't hear them talk about it so often. I've seen a few people bring up various things about diff artists over the years tho. Didn't Namie leave her kid alone to get drunk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelisk 425 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 I honestly don't know, I guess Lecca's use of black hairstyles is appropriative but I've never really given all that a whole lot of salt. I'm not aware of much she's done that's blatantly problematic. As for my more significant faves Namie/Utada/Goto Maki if they've done anything blatantly problematic then I guess there's that. Most of the time I really don't care what an artist does. Like I acknowledge it but I still enjoy their music. Unless they're just unabashedly shitty/racist/whatever. Jpop fans are a lot less vocal on such a wide scale in comparison to Kpop fans, which is probably why you don't hear them talk about it so often. I've seen a few people bring up various things about diff artists over the years tho. Nope, it's not a problem. If she's not allowed to make this kind of hairstyle, then she's not allowed to make reggae. SHE'S CLEAN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelanatedBeauty 13,664 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 out of shape about things like cultural appropriation for instance. Im so confused because I remember in Project Color you said you hate cultural appropriation..or do you only hate it when it's someone appropriating japan?? anyway..I've been out of the japan loop for years now that includes anime as well..Ive only watched like 2 anime last year and thats the 1st and 2nd season of tokyo ghoul and attack on titan... so idk if one ok rock are problematic or if haruma miura's problematic..idk...so for atm ill say nah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocumentaLy 6,033 Posted January 18, 2016 Author Share Posted January 18, 2016 Im so confused because I remember in Project Color you said you hate cultural appropriation..or do you only hate it when it's someone appropriating japan?? anyway..I've been out of the japan loop for years now that includes anime as well..Ive only watched like 2 anime last year and thats the 1st and 2nd season of tokyo ghoul and attack on titan... so idk if one ok rock are problematic or if haruma miura's problematic..idk...so for atm ill say nah. I said that cultural appropriation doesn't fly with me, as in I think it's just a bunch of bullshit whining. Who cares if you have cornrows or wear a kimono? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelanatedBeauty 13,664 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 I said that cultural appropriation doesn't fly with me, as in I think it's just a bunch of bullshit whining. Who cares if you have cornrows or wear a kimono? oh kk..I thought you meant you hate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abra 40,910 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Perfume's music is becoming a bit problematic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aitso 407 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Nope, it's not a problem. If she's not allowed to make this kind of hairstyle, then she's not allowed to make reggae. SHE'S CLEAN! I just said it's technically appropriative not that I have a particular problem with it. lol Didn't Namie leave her kid alone to get drunk? Wait really? I'mma need to look up receipts on this. lmfao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuu-sus 847 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Shiina is imperialist scum anyway my fave is flawfree except ageism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocumentaLy 6,033 Posted January 18, 2016 Author Share Posted January 18, 2016 Shiina is imperialist scum anyway my fave is flawfree except ageism Which basically killed her career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missycin 1,117 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 I really only like Utada now though I think the only reason I'd lose enthusiasm for any fave is if they are misogynistic, abusive, or racist. I don't really care that much who they sleep with or if they love their countries to smithereens unless their nationalism includes invading some other country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiaraewiwiarae 6,637 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Akanishi's whole life is problematic. I stan him anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blank_stare 2,217 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Akanishi's whole life is problematic. I stan him anyway. Me too. I'm (im)patiently waiting for his next album.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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