____shawnee 4,118 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 In case nobody remembers, Hwayoung was kicked out for her supposed disobedient behavior. Her leg was injured so she was scheduled to perform in a chair, but shortly before the performance she refused to go on stage, causing her members to rush and prepare for her absence. With this news of Jiyeon showing she constantly performs even when injured, as well as other members, it makes one wonder: did Hwayoung truly lack determination? Do you think she deserved to be kicked out? Do you think she should've be given another chance? Do you even believe KKS's story? Do you think Ahreum is sleeping with KKS and influenced him to kick Hwayoung out and give herself a solo career? Leave your responses in the comment box below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abra 40,910 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 I don't think she did, but if CCM wouldn't have done anything then it'd send a message to the rest of T-ara that it's fine not to perform if you're injured. But CCM said there were issues with her behaviour raised by the staff? I don't know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libidinosa 2,756 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 I can just picture all the t-ara members furiously rushing into KKS's office, demanding that Hwayoung be kicked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazuma Kiryu 1,823 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abra 40,910 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 I can just picture all the t-ara members furiously rushing into KKS's office, demanding that Hwayoung be kicked out. all the way from Japan that determination Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vixen 8,635 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 A big NO. I was heartbroken when they kicked her out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaelin 6,957 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 I don't think Hwayoung deserved to be kicked out. There was obvious friction within the group though, it's obvious by the tweets from most of the other girls mocking Hwayoung's determination after her leg injury. Things went really quick from there on so it's logical that most people concluded Hwayoung was being mistreated and other members wanted to get rid of her as well. Of course Hwayoung didn't deserve it, I honestly don't believe she has behaviour issues that got her removed. I think it's simply because she didn't fit in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onehallyu#1NiceOppaKW 27,191 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x13ce0f_diadem-subs-130506-the-beatles-codes-t-ara-n4_music?search_algo=2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchoolNote 6,178 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Wasn't that just a rumor though? No one except T-ara knows the internal conflicts that led to Hwayoung being kicked from the group. If it happens to be true I still don't believe that she should have been kicked out. People function differently under the same conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pelusa 743 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 No Kicking her out was too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miwa201 8,387 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 She definitely didn't deserve it, especially because it was handled in a really ugly way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YA-530 2,871 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 I doubt anyone believes in KKS anymore tbh I wish the incident was handled better by KKS... There really wasn't a need for hwayoung to be kicked out of the group like that :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Youth 64 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Just because the other girls appear to not have a problem when performing while injured doesn't mean Hwayoung deserved to get kicked kicked for refusing to do so as well. I know that these events are important but I've seen small groups like Miss A, 2NE1 perform without a member when they had other activities going on and their performances went well. T-ara has like 7+ girls who can easily fill in for someone else. Groups like those shouldn't have to be performing while injured, not to mention it's hazardous towards their health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omona 83 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Had she stayed people would complain even more and make up more theories and overall give T-ara a worse reputation than they have now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silicon soul 19,457 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 All I know was that Hwayoung was injured. As for what happened during that live, it's all up in the air. CCM said Hwayoung was throwing a tantrum while other accounts (I think staff?) said she was crying in the hallways and locked out of dressing room or something. Frankly, with all the constant lies of CCM, I'm not gonna believe their story without hard evidence. As for Heayoung being kicked out, it wasn't fair to kick her out for being injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
____shawnee 4,118 Posted October 17, 2013 Author Share Posted October 17, 2013 Had she stayed people would complain even more and make up more theories and overall give T-ara a worse reputation than they have now. I don't think their reputation could be any worse than it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveYouRight.EXO 159 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Poor Hwayoung Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onehallyu#1NiceOppaKW 27,191 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Hwayoung did have the chance to go back T-ara. She already apologized to T-ara and CCM staffs. But she never return, so...... I just go what Hyomin say, she was lonely and feel cannot fit into T-ara. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdzPower 3,385 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 My theory on the scandal is as follows. Hwayoung was CRIMINALLY underrated whilst in the group, even when she was labelled main rapper they'd give the majority of the raps to Hyomin and Eunjung. She got frustrated and started acting out, she hated being in the background and she knew her talent was going to waste, to stop this KKS decided that he would hear her out and give her the lines she deserves, hence why on the Day by Day album she is the only member that raps save for Areum, Hwayoung's raps on DBD and Don't Leave were amazing, she was finally getting to show her skill as a rapper, I believe CCM didn't want it getting to her head so removed her as she had learnt to speak up for herself and they didn't like that. As for Areum well it was obvious, she was added into the group because she had skills as a rapper and a nicer voice than even Eunjung, she was a great addition to the vocal line of the group and was promoted to main rapper when Hwayoung was fired, when the whole U.S thing came around KKS was worried, how could N4 promote in the States when not a single one of them could speak English? The answer? Fire Areum but butter her up with a solo deal and place the English speaking Dani in N4. They did learn from their mistakes though, Areum got a lot of air time whilst in T-ara, a lot of lines and all the raps which is the opposite of what Hwayoung got. I also feel that Hwayoung didn't fit in with T-ara, not speaking much at first and looking very awkward with her members, it was obvious she was not too keen on them at least at first, and it didn't seem as though they helped her to fit in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaemin Is Love 64 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Hwayoung did have the chance to go back T-ara. She already apologized to T-ara and CCM staffs. But she never return, so...... I just go what Hyomin say, she was lonely and feel cannot fit into T-ara. Apologized for being kicked out? the logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onehallyu#1NiceOppaKW 27,191 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Apologized for being kicked out? the logic. When you do something wrong of course you have to apologize. If she did not apologize, indirectly telling the public Hwayoung was actually bullied. Actually she doesn't need to care about apologizing if she has no feeling for T-ara and CCM. As for KKS, kick her out maybe for her own good too. T-ara are alway tired up with so much activities, the problem got bigger if Hwayoung could not resolve her personal problems in time. Hwayoung may get T-ara into bigger trouble than actually now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuackingDuck 826 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 nope. t-ara would be in a better situation now if she stayed. the bullying rumors initially erupted after t-ara publicly bitched about hwayoung, but had ccm kept her and got her to publicly absolve t-ara of blame (maybe with some story that the whole thing was an inside joke) and got her to keep her relatives quiet, things would have been better. ccm kicking hwayoung out so flimsily and then trying to blacken her name only ended up reflecting badly on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaemin Is Love 64 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 When you do something wrong of course you have to apologize. If she did not apologize, indirectly telling the public Hwayoung was actually bullied. Actually she doesn't need to care about apologizing if she has no feeling for T-ara and CCM. As for KKS, kick her out maybe for her own good too. T-ara are alway tired up with so much activities, the problem got bigger if Hwayoung could not resolve her personal problems in time. Hwayoung may get T-ara into bigger trouble than actually now. But she did nothing wrong. the public notice something was off because of T-ara girls SNS and everything got out of control because KS way to handle things, I don't see why she is the one apologizing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
____shawnee 4,118 Posted October 17, 2013 Author Share Posted October 17, 2013 When you do something wrong of course you have to apologize. If she did not apologize, indirectly telling the public Hwayoung was actually bullied. Actually she doesn't need to care about apologizing if she has no feeling for T-ara and CCM. As for KKS, kick her out maybe for her own good too. T-ara are alway tired up with so much activities, the problem got bigger if Hwayoung could not resolve her personal problems in time. Hwayoung may get T-ara into bigger trouble than actually now. I think she only apologized because KKS threatened her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abra 40,910 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 But she did nothing wrong. the public notice something was off because of T-ara girls SNS and everything got out of control because KS way to handle things, I don't see why she is the one apologizing. I'm pretty sure she did... But the question is if kicking her out was a fair punishment or not. I think it was too severe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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