Dr. Kim (PhD) 540 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 How far would the PC crowd take it? I've seen on this forum people saying that trans women should be in female prisons and not male, I wondered the same about sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iususchrist 1,703 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Obviously? Trans women are still women... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_____asd 728 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 No thatd be unfair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOLAR MOON 3,775 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 they're still women so why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexâš¡Thunder 616 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 yepp totally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shino 6,921 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Well if transsexuals can be put in female prisons (idk if this is true I've just seen in on two seprete female prison dramas) I don't see why not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hosh 1,349 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 yes of course, they are women after all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aripod 2,721 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Well if transsexuals can be put in female prisons (idk if this is true I've just seen in on two seprete female prison dramas) I don't see why not is the second one wentworth? cuz that show's awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Kim (PhD) 540 Posted January 14, 2016 Author Share Posted January 14, 2016 no, they're stronger and it would be unfair But some people are naturally stronger than other even if they were born as the same gender and that also makes it unfair, is it wrong for them to compete as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aripod 2,721 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Well if transsexuals can be put in female prisons (idk if this is true I've just seen in on two seprete female prison dramas) I don't see why not is the second one wentworth? cuz that show's awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiaraewiwiarae 6,637 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Hormone therapy is considered as doping, so not possible to qualify. Like doping in East Germany in 1980's. And yes, it would be unfair because men are better at sports than women. There's currently no sport that can be fairly calculated (mins, meters, kgs, etc.) where women hold better record than men as far as I know. There's a reason why women don't compete with men and why there are age and weight categories in sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayy 3,021 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 well they're still women so yeh why not, but I get that It'd be kinda unfair since they'd be stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YNRA 1,082 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 depends when they transitioned. if it was before puberty and they used puberty blockers then yes, that's fine. if it was after puberty then probably not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silicon soul 19,457 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 I dunno how'd people take it honestly, probably a bit on the negative side as sport is supposed to be as fair as possible, the only deciding factor should be your technical ability. Doping is a MASSIVE problem and that's between athletes of the same gender, some sports like road cycling have lost prestige and respect due to it. A trans person would most likely have operation, medications, hormone changes etc which can potentially give unfair disadvantes over competitors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shino 6,921 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 is the second one wentworth? cuz that show's awesome. Yesssss I just ducking discovered that shit last week whenever they added the third season The last two episodes had me on edge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airplanebyfx 102 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 yeah, cos they're women too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRH Ayyu 4,199 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 i think its against the rules in the olympic. you have to be born a female to take part as a woman. cause there was this controversy about a woman who won a race by a huge margine and she was masculine, so she was forced to have gender tests to prove she was born female cause people suspected she was born male and it was against the rule or something. edit: she was a hermaphrodite, and allowed to compete in the future after a year of debating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yume 3,886 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 But there are biologically born women who are physically closer to men. How would that be any different than a transsexual woman competing in female sports? This reminds me of the controversy when Caster Semenya won in the Olympics and people said it was unfair because she had the physiology of a man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aripod 2,721 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Yesssss I just ducking discovered that shit last week whenever they added the third season The last two episodes had me on edge saaaame. i watched the last 4 episodes in the same night and i was just amazed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRH Ayyu 4,199 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 But there are biologically born women who are physically closer to men. How would that be any different than a transsexual woman competing in female sports? This reminds me of the controversy when Caster Semenya won in the Olympics and people said it was unfair because she had the physiology of a man. ah this was the story i was thinking of. was she born female? i forgot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffybubbles 2,699 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 I'm for all inclusion of trans women in everything but it can seem mean but in stuff like the olympics even the slightest difference in strength can make or break you, and there'd most definitely be an instance where all the cis females simply cannot be as strong as a transgender woman could possibly be no matter what they do it's hard to say, there's so many factors involved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shino 6,921 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 saaaame. i watched the last 4 episodes in the same night and i was just amazed.Bruh I had the day off, just bought a 2ds with fire emblem awakening, bought an eighth of weed, and finished season 3 in one day. It was amazing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooshi 1,662 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Why not? They are women so they should have the rights to take part in sport competitions for women. To deny their participation right is also to deny their womanhood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Kim (PhD) 540 Posted January 14, 2016 Author Share Posted January 14, 2016 i think its against the rules in the olympic. you have to be born a female to take part as a woman. cause there was this controversy about a woman who won a race by a huge margine and she was masculine, so she was forced to have gender tests to prove she was born female cause people suspected she was born male and it was against the rule or something. the test proved she was born female. Are you talking about that 800m runner? Because she was born a hermaphrodite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yume 3,886 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 ah this was the story i was thinking of. was she born female? i forgot? Just saw you posted almost the exact same thing as me. Yes, she was born a woman however she has testosterone levels above that of an average woman but too low to move her to the 'male' category in the Olympics. Are you talking about that 800m runner? Because she was born a hermaphrodite. No she was born a woman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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