Gen_ki 11,021 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I wouldn't say so because rnb is grouped on a whole other category and hip hop differs in genre and culture. Oh, okay. Thank you. It was just something I was wondering about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashnia 1,285 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 What do you guys think of SanE's new track? No matter how much he denies it, it's totally a diss towards Illionaire/Dok2/Zino. It's a total diss against illionaire's i did a tumblr post about you could find it in the illionaire's tag. @ 3:30 of the song San E says, "F**k you gonzo". He takes a jab at Zino's plagerism controversy which IMO is not something you do just bc considering how sensitive plagerism is. I think something probably happened while dok2 and San e were filming SMTM3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miwa201 8,387 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 It's a total diss against illionaire's i did a tumblr post about you could find it in the illionaire's tag. @ 3:30 of the song San E says, "F**k you gonzo". He takes a jab at Zino's plagerism controversy which IMO is not something you do just bc considering how sensitive plagerism is. I think something probably happened while dok2 and San e were filming SMTM3. Yeah, I just wish he'd admit it. I guess he also answered to Zino's line in that new Illionaire song about idols singing choruses in hip hop songs (which imo is a valid criticism). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chompcombo 166 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 https://soundcloud.com/user8703331/apex-of-gl-do-the-right-rap anyone know if sky (i think thats his name?) is putting out solo work? Or is Apex the only one putting out new music? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashnia 1,285 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Yeah, I just wish he'd admit it. I guess he also answered to Zino's line in that new Illionaire song about idols singing choruses in hip hop songs (which imo is a valid criticism). Yeah San e said that it was his idea coincidentally or not so coincidentally San e has a song with Raina that has been topping melon for a month lol. I don't see the harm in idols singing hip hop choruses given if their a good vocalists. Like for ex Soyu and Hyorins voice go really well with hip hop songs. Also the k HipHop world lacks really good vocalists their aren't many. Hence why HipHop artists go to idols however I could see how some HipHop artists may think that some ppl use idols for their popularity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
✽aya 998 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 (edited) san-e is so stupid i will never like what he puts out https://soundcloud.com/user8703331/apex-of-gl-do-the-right-rap anyone know if sky (i think thats his name?) is putting out solo work? Or is Apex the only one putting out new music? sooooo gooooood no clue, man I want another G.L album tho, this hurts Edited July 22, 2014 by NONINVASIVE 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pish 413 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 lol Naah, I don't think San E's song was a diss lol. Just him trolling/mocking Illionaire. No ill feelings. Never been a fan of his either. I don't see the harm in idols singing hip hop choruses given if their a good vocalists. Like for ex Soyu and Hyorins voice go really well with hip hop songs. Also the k HipHop world lacks really good vocalists their aren't many. Hence why HipHop artists go to idols however I could see how some HipHop artists may think that some ppl use idols for their popularity. HELL NO. Yes, they mostly use them for exposure. Why else would you pay extra money for hiring idols, if you could get better vocalists for less. Soulman, Saetbyul, Boni, Lovey, Crybaby, Deez, Soul One, Kuan, Mayson the soul, Evo, VEN, Crucial Star, Brother Su, Bumkey, Zion T, Crush, Jung In etc. You don't need 1k+ singers in Khh. Some of them are more RnB but feature a lot on khh songs. Most of them are connected through people anyways. ---- I wouldn't mind a solo EP from Apex though. I'm liking what he put out so far. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miwa201 8,387 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Yeah San e said that it was his idea coincidentally or not so coincidentally San e has a song with Raina that has been topping melon for a month lol. I don't see the harm in idols singing hip hop choruses given if their a good vocalists. Like for ex Soyu and Hyorins voice go really well with hip hop songs. Also the k HipHop world lacks really good vocalists their aren't many. Hence why HipHop artists go to idols however I could see how some HipHop artists may think that some ppl use idols for their popularity. I disagree. Epik High pre-YG only used indie artists and never resorted to idols. Same with most k-hip hop artists. Idols in general are honestly not that talented, you can find more talented singers that are not as well known. SanE is simply featuring them bc he wants more sales and popularity. Nothing wrong with that but I also find it unnecessary. And tbh Mad Clown has regressed ever since he joined Starship. lol Naah, I don't think San E's song was a diss lol. Just him trolling/mocking Illionaire. No ill feelings. Never been a fan of his either. HELL NO. Yes, they mostly use them for exposure. Why else would you pay extra money for hiring idols, if you could get better vocalists for less. Soulman, Saetbyul, Boni, Lovey, Crybaby, Deez, Soul One, Kuan, Mayson the soul, Evo, VEN, Crucial Star, Brother Su, Bumkey, Zion T, Crush, Jung In etc. You don't need 1k+ singers in Khh. Some of them are more RnB but feature a lot on khh songs. Most of them are connected through people anyways. ---- I wouldn't mind a solo EP from Apex though. I'm liking what he put out so far. Yep, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justica 820 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 lol Naah, I don't think San E's song was a diss lol. Just him trolling/mocking Illionaire. No ill feelings. Never been a fan of his either. HELL NO. Yes, they mostly use them for exposure. Why else would you pay extra money for hiring idols, if you could get better vocalists for less. Soulman, Saetbyul, Boni, Lovey, Crybaby, Deez, Soul One, Kuan, Mayson the soul, Evo, VEN, Crucial Star, Brother Su, Bumkey, Zion T, Crush, Jung In etc. You don't need 1k+ singers in Khh. Some of them are more RnB but feature a lot on khh songs. Most of them are connected through people anyways. ---- I wouldn't mind a solo EP from Apex though. I'm liking what he put out so far. lets not forget about my homie doe... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrNKosktTW0 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justica 820 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 i find it funny how he's dissing illionaire with a song called Show you the money and the opening line is him talking about how much money he has.... like are you seriously going to use the money card with illionaire... they're all fucking millionaires, the logic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TCREs2_yWM anyways i've never liked san-e, he has always seemed to have such a big and douche ego 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pish 413 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 (edited) lets not forget about my homie doe... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrNKosktTW0 40, I love his voice :ahmagah: ----------- This supposed diss track of San E reminds me of the one he did about VJ lol. His last verses on that track: "ah that shit was fucking funny You know im just kidding vj Just messing withya U the king of flow Im king of nothing Was this one entertaining? holla" :happy: should have mentioned these lines in his new track too so that people know it's not a diss, like he said. evil me Edited July 22, 2014 by Pish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooyoung's Wife 3,713 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 I have a question. A Cypher is the same thing as a diss track, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chompcombo 166 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 (edited) I have a question. A Cypher is the same thing as a diss track, right? it can be, but for the most part nope. would post vid examples but cant find any diss tracks for khiphop aside from the "control" incident lol Edited July 23, 2014 by chompcombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooyoung's Wife 3,713 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 it can be, for the most part nope. Can you give me a definition? :cry: I know a cypher is a secret code or something but I'm not 100% sure what it is in music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen_ki 11,021 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Can you give me a definition? :cry: I know a cypher is a secret code or something but I'm not 100% sure what it is in music. A Cypher when it comes to hiphop is a type of freestyle rapping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chompcombo 166 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 A Cypher when it comes to hiphop is a type of freestyle rapping. pretty much this. its usually with a group of MCs liiiiike this for example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U84N68mHccs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooyoung's Wife 3,713 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Oh so when artists record Cyphers it's completely freestyle, no lyrics sheet, all done on the spot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chompcombo 166 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Oh so when artists record Cyphers it's completely freestyle, no lyrics sheet, all done on the spot? most of it's written unfortunately lol. some can freestyle off top tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooyoung's Wife 3,713 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 (edited) most of it's written unfortunately lol. some can freestyle off top tho So then what's the difference between a cypher and a regular hip hop song? What kind of freestyle is it? Edited July 23, 2014 by jonghyuns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pish 413 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 So then what's the difference between a cypher and a regular hip hop song? What kind of freestyle is it? When a bunch of people come together and exchange rhymes and lyrics back and forth. Cyphers nowadays are often pre-written, it can be freestyle like on top off your head tho. And it's more about the rap skills, like spitting hard over a beat and showing off your skills. There is not really a song structure like e.g. intro - verse - pre-chorus - hook - verse - hook - bridge - verse outro or whatever. it's just rap after rap, verse after verse. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTeux8MKLd4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pish 413 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Fame J new EP "Keep Your Head Up High" out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT0AwFPMcyo&index=1&list=PLZ-G_atY_8IX9PfCdvB6hexjDEjVjqv9_ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2YagZ-5Rjg&index=3&list=PLZ-G_atY_8IX9PfCdvB6hexjDEjVjqv9_ [media]http://instagram.com/p/qyNtViJcId/[/media] Working on new Eluphant? :ahmagah: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cho-hee 150 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I have a question. A Cypher is the same thing as a diss track, right? No it's not a diss track. It's when rappers have a freestyle circle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooyoung's Wife 3,713 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 When a bunch of people come together and exchange rhymes and lyrics back and forth. Cyphers nowadays are often pre-written, it can be freestyle like on top off your head tho. And it's more about the rap skills, like spitting hard over a beat and showing off your skills. There is not really a song structure like e.g. intro - verse - pre-chorus - hook - verse - hook - bridge - verse outro or whatever. it's just rap after rap, verse after verse. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTeux8MKLd4Ohh I get it now, thank you! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chompcombo 166 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 (edited) https://twitter.com/HILITE_RECORDS/status/491929018900295680 :cry: Edited July 23, 2014 by chompcombo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pish 413 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 ^^^ yay Okasian A bit late but I kinda find it weird that Soulfish didn't produce anything on Huck P's gOld. I think he only worked on Evo's solo? I can't even remember what was released this year lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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