whiteasian 732 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I've been seeing arguments about this for god knows how long. Basically, some people argue that not including people from a variety of races in a film set in a historical context where there would have been no people of that racial group is racist. Basically it'd be like including someone who was white or asian in a film set in africa before there had been any contact from other continents, or casting someone indian in a film set in 5th century iceland. opinions? does being 'historically accurate' relate to racism or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abra 40,910 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I've been seeing arguments about this for god knows how long. Basically, some people argue that not including people from a variety of races in a film set in a historical context where there would have been no people of that racial group is racist. Basically it'd be like including someone who was white or asian in a film set in africa before there had been any contact from other continents, or casting someone indian in a film set in 5th century iceland. opinions? does being 'historically accurate' relate to racism or not? That's just stupid... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteasian 732 Posted October 2, 2013 Author Share Posted October 2, 2013 That's just stupid... agreed ._. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Symphonyâ„¢ 11,329 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 History is just that history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delincious 5,654 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 that's called being stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Teaa 910 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Well it doesn't make sense to me that people would get mad about historical accuracy... shouldn't things be portrayed correctly if it's a film or drama about history? But then I guess there's some cases where someone who's of one race can pass for another race... hmm. I don't know tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaco 53 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 people employ white actors/actress characters that are suppose to be poc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silicon soul 19,457 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Well if the film is aiming for historic accuracy and if others races weren't present at the time then of course you'd have to omit them, nothing to do with racism. By that stupid logic you might as well argue why the film didn't feature lots of disabled people or lots of women or lots of old people or Buddhists as all that's discrimination too lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulmicola 1,981 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Historical accuracy is more important than any racism-related issue. Pretending that racism and segregation didn't exist in the past, is whitewashing and manipulating history. If they do it, they're on the same level of those who deny the Holocaust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heuieuu 564 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 LOL reminds me when we had to watch the movie adaptation of hamlet. one of the officers was a black man. really? in 15th century denmark? even in modern times, are there any black people in denmark? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denizen mars 5,911 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 LOL reminds me when we had to watch the movie adaptation of hamlet. one of the officers was a black man. really? in 15th century denmark? even in modern times, are there any black people in denmark? There were plenty of people of african descent in europe during the middle ages, though. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moors They were probably much less common as far north as Denmark, but that doesn't mean they didn't exist. And lol @ the ignorance in that last...don't know if you've been reading the news, but immigration to northern european countries is really common (and, in fact, is becoming a contentious social issue). I mean I know much of the history most of you guys have learned is white washed and all, but it wasn't just white people everywhere with no different ethnic groups, either throughout time or now. I'll freely admit I'm treading on thin ice here because I haven't studied european history in detail, but apparently I know more than you about this... Plus, what's the harm in having an adaptation with characters that aren't /exactly like/ the tentatively historical characters they play (after all, Hamlet is a work of fiction; it was written by an englishman with no contact with Danish culture and based on many similar myths)? Shakespearean actors weren't Danish, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abra 40,910 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 There were plenty of people of african descent in europe during the middle ages, though. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moors They were probably much less common as far north as Denmark, but that doesn't mean they didn't exist. And lol @ the ignorance in that last...don't know if you've been reading the news, but immigration to northern european countries is really common (and, in fact, is becoming a contentious social issue). I mean I know much of the history most of you guys have learned is white washed and all, but it wasn't just white people everywhere with no different ethnic groups, either throughout time or now. I'll freely admit I'm treading on thin ice here because I haven't studied european history in detail, but apparently I know more than you about this... Plus, what's the harm in having an adaptation with characters that aren't /exactly like/ the tentatively historical characters they play (after all, Hamlet is a work of fiction; it was written by an englishman with no contact with Danish culture and based on many similar myths)? Shakespearean actors weren't Danish, either. Moors weren't necessarily "black" though. Most of them would've come from the Northwestern part of Africa and their ancestors might have lived in the south of Spain for centuries before that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denizen mars 5,911 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Moors weren't necessarily "black" though. Most of them would've come from the Northwestern part of Africa and their ancestors might have lived in the south of Spain for centuries before that. of course not, but that's a far cry from saying there was no ethic diversity and nothing but white people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abra 40,910 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 of course not, but that's a far cry from saying there was no ethic diversity and nothing but white people. True. But I think in many cases you might not come across many people of other ethnicities, especially in posher areas in the UK where many historical dramas or work of fiction take place. It'd be more common in Southern Europe, especially close to the coasts I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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