Young liberals want "priveleged" groups to take responsibility for their radicals and terrorists - but not Muslims?

[Sue You]

For the last few years we've all been hearing ad-nauseum that:

 

All whites should take responsibility for slavery.

 

All men should take responsibility for rape.

 

And to "shirk these responsibilities" by rejecting neo-liberal collectivist ideology is apparently shameful, "problematic", and "oppressive".

 

But not only is it "problematic" to ask the same of Muslims, everyone except Muslims are the ones who are supposed to take accountability for Islamic terrorism.

 

And it doesn't end with the shootings and bombings. The irony of it all is that liberals, supposedly anti-rape and anti-violence, are cheering on as their countries take in mostly third-world YOUNG MEN by the millions, then watching as rape and violent race-based crime statistics spike and failing to make the connection. Because doing so would be "racist". It couldn't be that these third-world men are more likely to rape, it's that, for some magical reason ALL men suddenly started raping way more at the exact time that we had an influx of third-world immigrants.

 

The very obvious logical inconsistency there is not something that should need to be spelled out.

 

I wonder if the Swedes are finding their socialist policies worth it now that they're rapidly falling in academic ratings and are projected to become a third-world country within 20 years. I wonder if the French think it's worth it right now as their people are being shot and blown up.

[Teru]

fuck off

[Sue You]

fuck off

 

Hey, collectivist - guess what. According to your line of thought, the blood of those people is on YOUR hands. The blood of every European and American who will be killed by terrorists in the coming weeks and months in on your hands. You and yours. You always want to talk about people taking accountability for their in-groups, then you should take accountability for the fact that your bleeding heart ideology is needlessly costing more innocent people their lives. Is it worth it just to feed your moral superiority complex? Does it still feel good?

[Is there a problem?]

LOL this guy going HAM on the politics

[xolovestephi🎀]

Why bother saying this on an Asian entertainment forum of all places?

Go direct your hate ramblings to Reddit or 4Chan or something.

[Chad Rodwell]

Generalizing liberals,generalizing muslims, you're a special kind of ignorant arent you?

[Mister Dove]

 

For the last few years we've all been hearing ad-nauseum that:

 

All whites should take responsibility for slavery.

 

All men should take responsibility for rape.

 

... we have?

[kimchi]

Shut up republicunt.

[s4a]

Has to be trolling. Refuse to believe this was a serious thought.

[♥SNS-Shinomiya♥]

Approach is best when discussion such a sensitive spot. I get what you mean, white guilt and all that, but approach is the best. Sometimes step by step beating around the bush is the best way to get you point across because a direct hit, will cause aversion.

[Teru]

Hey, collectivist - guess what. According to your line of thought, the blood of those people is on YOUR hands. The blood of every European and American who will be killed by terrorists in the coming weeks and months in on your hands. You and yours. You always want to talk about people taking accountability for their in-groups, then you should take accountability for the fact that your bleeding heart ideology is needlessly costing more innocent people their lives. Is it worth it just to feed your moral superiority complex? Does it still feel good?

 

I'm European, fuck off

[Rapmon's Ahjussi Husband]

Hey, collectivist - guess what. According to your line of thought, the blood of those people is on YOUR hands. The blood of every European and American who will be killed by terrorists in the coming weeks and months in on your hands. You and yours. You always want to talk about people taking accountability for their in-groups, then you should take accountability for the fact that your bleeding heart ideology is needlessly costing more innocent people their lives. Is it worth it just to feed your moral superiority complex? Does it still feel good?

What Ideology are you talking about?, Western democracy?, carefull....

[buffybubbles]

lol youre actually getting upvoted, stay classy OH

[Sue You]

... we have?

 

Social justice culture can basically be boiled down to this: "If you're a man then you have patriarchal privilege that gives you the ability to stand up to rape, therefore you are indirectly accountable for every rape that happens."

 

Take the same line of thought and apply it to race and you get this: http://onehallyu.com/topic/246866-blacklivesmatter-protesters-disrupt-students-in-library-%E2%80%98fck-you-you-filthy-white-fcks%E2%80%99/

 

And no, this is not Tumblr babble, it's what's being taught in classes as well as mandatory seminars at top Universities across North America and Europe.

 

It's about in-groups, out-groups and blanket guilt (or innocence) by association.

[Nads]

Asking someone to acknowledge their privilege and work to change a society that promotes it, is not the same as asking someone to take responsibilty for something they had nothing to do with, just because the monsters that did it claim to share the same religion.

[Sue You]

Asking someone to acknowledge their privilege and work to change a society that promotes it, is not the same as asking someone to take responsibilty for something they had nothing to do with, just because the monsters that did it claim to share the same religion.

 

Except, in practice, it is the same. When a random white girl studying in the library is pushed and cornered by a mob and screamed profanities at because she may or may not be a racist, it's the same fucking thing.

[Nads]

Except, in practice, it is the same. When a random white girl studying in the library is pushed and cornered by a mob and screamed profanities at because she may or may not be a racist, it's the same fucking thing.

 

Are we pretending that's a normal occurance?

[snowdjinn]

You want to discuss THIS on OH ? SERIOUSLY ?

 

 

Oh,the fact that You changed both options in Your poll to "Yes" after you totally lost the vote... shows You are not even capable of having a discussion. OMG, thats really as low as it gets. Dont even make me argue against Your messed-up opinion.

[Sue You]

Are we pretending that's a normal occurance?

 

Are we pretending that the modern social justice movement is not radical? That people aren't being fired and expelled over accusations of "microaggressions"? That people aren't now starting to be arrested for "manspreading"?

 

But I digress. The topic of focus right now is the double-talk and logical inconsistency apparent in social justice.

[♥SNS-Shinomiya♥]

Asking someone to acknowledge their privilege and work to change a society that promotes it, is not the same as asking someone to take responsibilty for something they had nothing to do with, just because the monsters that did it claim to share the same religion.

    Whose privilege do you mean; white people? If so, sorry to tell you white men don't get special privileges, white women maybe but not white men.

 

 

Also your second argument can be applied to your first point "its not the same as asking someone to take responsibly for something they had nothing to do just because monsters that did it are *fill in the blank* So what is the criteria for having to take responsibility when you are not the person who caused the issue?

[buffybubbles]

and to answer the question seriously, people here DO criticize the ridiculousness of that aspect of PC culture

you're obviously not trying to accomplish anything other than spreading hate

not attacking all muslims is NOT what allows these terrorist attacks to continue so sit the fuck down

[Nads]

Are we pretending that the modern social justice movement is not radical? That people aren't being fired and expelled over accusations "microaggressions"? That people aren't now starting to be arrested "manspreading"?

 

Tbh, I'm not against that because institutionaized racism and white/male/Christian/Western World privilege is a real thing and creates very unsafe enviorments for far too many people.  Just like no white person should be cornered and screamed at over slavery, no black student should have to be stopped by the police because he dosen't look like he belongs in that area and no young girl should be sent home because her collar bone may be too distracting to males, or no muslim should go on twitter and see 'MurderAllMuslims' trending worldwide.  All of these things have happened but one of them, far less than others.

[amix]

banned! praise the lord!

[hyvunjins]

Just because they share the same religion, Muslims should not be to blame for this. Why should we point our blame on people just because they share the same religion as the bad people? Muslims are not to be blamed, it's ISIS who are using the religion to brainwash those they take in.

[Nads]

    Whose privilege do you mean; white people? If so, sorry to tell you white men don't get special privileges, white women maybe but not white men.

 

 

Also your second argument can be applied to your first point "its not the same as asking someone to take responsibly for something they had nothing to do just because monsters that did it are *fill in the blank* So what is the criteria for having to take responsibility when you are not the person who caused the issue?

 

White men have no privilege?  Okay.

 

And as for the second part, no one should.  That was my point.