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What are some jpop girlgroups that are similar to kpop girlgroups?


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I'd been thinking about this a bit lately.  Japan has lots of different styles of idol groups, but in some ways I feel like the bigger names aren't that similar to the typical kpop girlgroups.

 

Typical kpop girlgroup imo:

Vocals are stratified and members rarely get equal lines, but everyone usually gets at least an individual line.  Chorus lines may be shared.  Everyone both sings/raps and dances.  Typically don't have more than 10 members.  Choreography ranges in difficulty.

 

Examples of more prominent jpop girlgroups I can think of:

48/46 groups; many members (with a rotating selection) who largely sing in unison.  Everyone in a particular stage sings and dances, choreography tends towards the simple side but some groups apparently have more difficult routines?

 

LDH: There are many dancers who only dance, and there are many more dancers than singers (who primarily stand and sing, but sometimes have to dance a little).  The actual groups themselves aren't bigger than kpop groups are except when combined as E-Girls.  The dances are more advanced.

 

Perfume: 3 members, autotuned voices, characteristic choreography.  I don't think j-pop agencies really recruit to make the next Perfume, though?  Most groups are bigger.

 

MCZ: actually similar to the typical kpop girlgroup in basic setup, but quirky.  (The original Crayon Pop.)  Denpagumi Inc is also kind of like this?

 

Babymetal: a subunit of Sakura Gakuin... ok, wiki-ing, no longer a subunit of Sakura Gakuin.  It seems like members of Sakura Gakuin have to be junior high-aged or younger so effectively is it a showcase for younger idols before the agency figures out what they're good for? >.>;;  Only 3 members, but it seems like Su-metal gets all the lines, unless the one colorcoded lyrics I saw was an anomaly.  I don't know if it's a stretch to call them popular, but they're sort of high-profile, I guess.

 

One not-so-popular group I know of:

Fairies: currently 6 members, currently 2 members get a lot of lines (if there's a rapping part there another one that tends to get those lines) and the remaining 4 tend to sing shared lines only.  Everyone dances.

 

 

So.  What jpop girlgroups are out there where it's expected that every member will have at least an individual line (and will sound like themselves), and the members all both sing and dance?  Also, whose music are... you know, straightforward pop, not weird like Denpagumi (although I have seen a ballad from them....)  How popular/relevant are these groups?  I feel like the individual line thing is pretty important to fan satisfaction... I mean, you are getting to hear your bias's voice.  It doesn't work the same way if it's shared with other members.  (The casual listener probably doesn't care, of course.  The casual listener doesn't care about the performance aspects so much either; choreography doesn't matter on the radio....)

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Perfume: 3 members, autotuned voices, characteristic choreography.  I don't think j-pop agencies really recruit to make the next Perfume, though?  Most groups are bigger.

 

They don't recruit because Perfume is an anomaly. Amuse didn't intentionally make them. )

 

Not-so-popular:

9nine

Tokyo Girls Style

Scandal (play instruments instead of dance)

 

I don't stan any of them, so I might be wrong, but my general impression was that they all have solo lines however small.

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I can only think of E-Girls and Momoclo Z only Crayon Pop is literally biting off their style lol

 

 

I mean I can say that Davichi and Bright are similar in just being vocal groups but Bright is imo better

 

 

 

 

but this sounds like something Apink would release

 

 

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FAKY:

 

I sort of knew about FAKY... but this group is not successful, so....

 

Recent °C-ute.

 

 

"Love take it all" especially give me a really kpop feel.

 

I did think of C-ute, but I'm not as familiar with them as I am Fairies so I didn't want to mischaracterize them.  From the C-ute PVs I'd seen before I thought many of their lines were shared?  Not everyone singing at the same time, but maybe 2 at a time?  Has it changed recently?  (I can't watch youtube right now.)  Also, how successful is this group?  From the album sales it didn't really seem they were that popular either, but physical sales don't necessarily reflect how popular a song is....

 

I can only think of E-Girls and Momoclo Z only Crayon Pop is literally biting off their style lol

E-Girls is not like a typical kpop girlgroup, though.

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I did think of C-ute, but I'm not as familiar with them as I am Fairies so I didn't want to mischaracterize them.  From the C-ute PVs I'd seen before I thought many of their lines were shared?  Not everyone singing at the same time, but maybe 2 at a time?  Has it changed recently?  (I can't watch youtube right now.)  Also, how successful is this group?  From the album sales it didn't really seem they were that popular either, but physical sales don't necessarily reflect how popular a song is....

It depend of the songs but they always have a lot of solo lines now (well mostly the vocal line but sub-vocals still have lines).

Recently for each single you will have a song who will more show their vocals and a second their dancing.

 

They are  well known among idol fans but not with grand public. Though they are going a little more mainstream recently (more apparitions in relevant shows...). Their last single sold 70 000 copies on first week and they had a sucessfull concert at Yokohama arena this year.

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It depend of the songs but they always have a lot of solo lines now (well mostly the vocal line but sub-vocals still have lines).

Recently for each single you will have a song who will more show their vocals and a second their dancing.

 

They are  well known among idol fans but not with grand public. Though they are going a little more mainstream recently (more apparitions in relevant shows...). Their last single sold 70 000 copies on first week and they had a sucessfull concert at Yokohama arena this year.

OK, gotcha.  Some people might be able to infer it, but I was thinking about this topic partly because of the kpop group Twice which has 3 actual japanese members.  For some reason some fans thinks this means they will do really well in Japan, but I don't see how having Japanese members makes them competitive against the domestic girlgroups.  I was wondering if there were actually not a lot of jpop groups modeled along kpop lines (i.e. Twice actually would be novel), but it seems they do exist so there goes that.

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