If you are a CEO of a Kpop company... would you?

[Eggbin]

Just for fun and out of genuine curiosity of what people would think of a situation not as a fan but as the CEO 

 

Rules:

Imagine yourself as a real CEO. Make decisions that would best help the groups and company in a long term. To be taken account : 

 

1) Popularity of group (Rate of increase and long-term popularity)

2) Reputation of company 

3) Sustainability of group

4) Moral standing

5) Profit of company

6) Cost of choices made

 

Lol have fun thinking

 

 

 

[sapphicsunmi]

I would make a talented group and let them go on the kinds of variety shows that shows their abilities 

[The Mad King]

 

I would make a talented group and let them go on the kinds of variety shows that shows their abilities 

 

[itsdyotaem]

For the last question, I would want to still place some importance to the MV. Also, I don't think you have to invest a lot when it comes to composition and lyrics since it all depends on the person you hired. There can be people who don't have a high professional fee/salary yet write better than others who have higher salaries. Anyway, thinking business-wise, you wouldn't really know what a "good song" is until you see how well people receive it. Plus, since KPOP is a global phenomenon, at least make the visuals look good and the tune sound good to catch the international audience's attention.

[Eggbin]

 

I would make a talented group and let them go on the kinds of variety shows that shows their abilities 

 

That's a good strategy. But in reality if the group is not well received, they won't get to be on programs or shows. Thanks for playing though, Im a noob at this 

[Eggbin]

For the last question, I would want to still place some importance to the MV. Also, I don't think you have to invest a lot when it comes to composition and lyrics since it all depends on the person you hired. There can be people who don't have a high professional fee/salary yet write better than others who have higher salaries. Anyway, thinking business-wise, you wouldn't really know what a "good song" is until you see how well people receive it. Plus, since KPOP is a global phenomenon, at least make the visuals look good and the tune sound good to catch the international audience's attention.

That's so true! But I guess because most businessman doesn't know whether the song is good or not, that's why they need to hire more expensive producers since they have higher likeliness of producing good music

[Laan90]

This looks like these 'chance cards' from the Sims~ I'll think about them

[Jack!]

Group A: Continue to promote.

Group B: Disband, keep 2 members.

Group C: Do both.

Group D/Soloist E: Give statement.

Group E: Ask to re-join.

Company Status: Higher song production.

[Tarted]

One of the best threads I've ever seen here! Congrats!
(Just realized how hard should be to manage various groups at once)
If I was a CEO I would prioritize the group's authenticity but focusing on increase every member's popularity (there is nothing wrong with wanting to add trends in older groups)!

[iamayam]

I don't want to be a Kpop Company CEO.

[itsdyotaem]

That's so true! But I guess because most businessman doesn't know whether the song is good or not, that's why they need to hire more expensive producers since they have higher likeliness of producing good music

 

Yes there is 'trust factor' like knowing that "oh this person has composed many great works" or "this composer has been with us for a long time".

 

BUT! There is a continuous production of new, young, fresh composers that would eventually lead/usher in the new generation of music, of course, the greats/legends/predecessors need people to cover up for them while thy are gone. I think this is why the 'composer' role that is included in kpop training systems (you can audition in SME as a composer) is very neat because these budding composers can learn at an early age and then go out into the fray and work for different kinds of companies. The music companies don't really need to invest on expensive composers and try looking at the pool of newer talents. Maybe they might give the artist their newest hit single. ;)

 

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BTW regarding the question with disbandment, I chose two options. To continue to invest and launch the two popular members as soloists. Who knows that in a year, the group might make another hit? The group might be like... a Shinhwa or a DBSK. I won't really think of disbanding them anytime soon because I can still milk money off of them as a group, especially of the other members are talented.

 

 

OH! And great job! This is a really cool thread haha.

[Eggbin]

One of the best threads I've ever seen here! Congrats!

(Just realized how hard should be to manage various groups at once)

If I was a CEO I would prioritize the group's authenticity but focusing on increase every member's popularity (there is nothing wrong with wanting to add trends in older groups)!

Thanks! One of the things I wonder though, how do we increase every member's popularity other than group promotion. Most of the times, I see some members having solo tracks in the group's album, or joining variety shows. But most of the time only two members can be promoted at a time so fans tends to complain. I wonder if there is a better alternative?

[Happy Oppa]

I'd make a boy group and a girl group once every 5 years, because the 2 year gap tends to be too close for me, if groups like ikon and winner, miss a and wonder girls, 2 pm and 2 am had resulted in one being more well loved (take a guess which), the 5 year gap is quite great, especially for groups like winner, snsd, twice and a lot more other groups.

 

For my first girl group, I'd release a song without the members in the mv, so that they'd have some taste of what's to come (song would be used for ost) then I'd give them a debut like G-friend, energetic, lively and full of power, don't focus on mv yet, as long as the song and dance is great. Then, i'd lure them on a more slow song like closer of omg and make a dope mv. the main vocal will get solo first, not the visual and the lead singer and the main rapper will do a sub group, something more hip-hop. the visual (and also the leader, face of the group) will be like suzy. cf and acting. while the main dancer and the maknae can be the variety queens. 6 members in all. and if they have the ability to write their own songs, I'll let them co-write their title songs. Foreign members is not really an option, but I'd have at least 2 of them so they can be multi-racial. They'd have 1 comeback and one song that would be with an mv only, unless they're really loved.

 

For my boy group, I'd imagine like all the members of exo-k, and the kinds of songs they produced at their 'mama' days, so better watch out for them. XD And they'd have more songs that would appeal international fans. (The gg would be korea friendly), Basically the same as the gg but their comebacks would be a back to back. Would have great mv's and fan meets too. the gg would have, but significantly less and would have like surprise performances like April.

 

the bg would have tons of teasers and stuff.

 

For a member to be soloist you must be known for good singing and performance, or at least have joined singing shows a lot of times.

 

Girls will target korea-asia while bg will go international. Girls would be at least 17 years but not more than 23 when they debut. For the boys, it would be at least 16-24 years old.

 

Hire a team to help me co-produce songs.

 

I'd do a little sajegi boost, but not too much, just until they'd have a stable fan base to buy their albums then i'd stop. and I'd pick the articles that would mediaplay my roster.

[Eggbin]

I don't want to be a Kpop Company CEO.

 

lol #problemsolved 

Yes there is 'trust factor' like knowing that "oh this person has composed many great works" or "this composer has been with us for a long time".

 

BUT! There is a continuous production of new, young, fresh composers that would eventually lead/usher in the new generation of music, of course, the greats/legends/predecessors need people to cover up for them while thy are gone. I think this is why the 'composer' role that is included in kpop training systems (you can audition in SME as a composer) is very neat because these budding composers can learn at an early age and then go out into the fray and work for different kinds of companies. The music companies don't really need to invest on expensive composers and try looking at the pool of newer talents. Maybe they might give the artist their newest hit single. ;)

 

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BTW regarding the question with disbandment, I chose two options. To continue to invest and launch the two popular members as soloists. Who knows that in a year, the group might make another hit? The group might be like... a Shinhwa or a DBSK. I won't really think of disbanding them anytime soon because I can still milk money off of them as a group, especially of the other members are talented.

 

 

OH! And great job! This is a really cool thread haha.

 

I totally second you. Companies should really invest in member's composing skill. The disbandment one, if I'm the CEO, I don't think I would dare to heavily invest, especially with sales decline. I would prepare for disbandment, and organizing a huge last concert for them. But then, businessman should take risks lol

 

Thanks for the opinion btw, somehow I get to learn a lot in OH haha

[sapphicsunmi]

That's a good strategy. But in reality if the group is not well received, they won't get to be on programs or shows. Thanks for playing though, Im a noob at this 

 

Yeah well i would use that stradgedy because my groups would be talented asf and have the most awesome songs and ofc be a gg

[Debut]

Group E; Status: 9 years since debut, extremely popular up until 2 of the members left the company. The members had a tense court battle with the company 4 years ago, only recently you found out the company was at fault. The 2 members are promoting well.

 

I would offer Nicole to join back.

[Eggbin]

I'd make a boy group and a girl group once every 5 years, because the 2 year gap tends to be too close for me, if groups like ikon and winner, miss a and wonder girls, 2 pm and 2 am had resulted in one being more well loved (take a guess which), the 5 year gap is quite great, especially for groups like winner, snsd, twice and a lot more other groups.

 

For my first girl group, I'd release a song without the members in the mv, so that they'd have some taste of what's to come (song would be used for ost) then I'd give them a debut like G-friend, energetic, lively and full of power, don't focus on mv yet, as long as the song and dance is great. Then, i'd lure them on a more slow song like closer of omg and make a dope mv. the main vocal will get solo first, not the visual and the lead singer and the main rapper will do a sub group, something more hip-hop. the visual (and also the leader, face of the group) will be like suzy. cf and acting. while the main dancer and the maknae can be the variety queens. 6 members in all. and if they have the ability to write their own songs, I'll let them co-write their title songs. Foreign members is not really an option, but I'd have at least 2 of them so they can be multi-racial. They'd have 1 comeback and one song that would be with an mv only, unless they're really loved.

 

For my boy group, I'd imagine like all the members of exo-k, and the kinds of songs they produced at their 'mama' days, so better watch out for them. XD And they'd have more songs that would appeal international fans. (The gg would be korea friendly), Basically the same as the gg but their comebacks would be a back to back. Would have great mv's and fan meets too. the gg would have, but significantly less and would have like surprise performances like April.

 

the bg would have tons of teasers and stuff.

 

For a member to be soloist you must be known for good singing and performance, or at least have joined singing shows a lot of times.

 

Girls will target korea-asia while bg will go international. Girls would be at least 17 years but not more than 23 when they debut. For the boys, it would be at least 16-24 years old.

 

Hire a team to help me co-produce songs.

 

I'd do a little sajegi boost, but not too much, just until they'd have a stable fan base to buy their albums then i'd stop. and I'd pick the articles that would mediaplay my roster.

 

You should really become a CEO man    If you think during that time, the concept could not be popular (ie: it was time that your bg release a track like mama, or gg to release a slow song) since there was too much of those types in the market already, and fans are getiing bored, what concept would you choose for your group(s) ?

 

Sajaegi boost tho lolol

[Happy Oppa]

You should really become a CEO man    If you think during that time, the concept could not be popular (ie: it was time that your bg release a track like mama, or gg to release a slow song) since there was too much of those types in the market already, and fans are getiing bored, what concept would you choose for your group(s) ?

 

Sajaegi boost tho lolol

 

As I said, I'd do what sm did to exo. a trifecta pre-debut (or debut) to suit their needs. what is love, mama, and history was a great diverse line up you know. a ballad, dance and a heavy song fits nice to them.

 

With the gg, I would only go for a slow song after their debut, which would be g-friend like. their pre-debut song (the one where it will have an mv withou them to make people curious) would be more artistically mature. so they would have some diverse styles too. I'd seen omg do that and gather a lot of fans so I'd do that too. because you can't just put a BRAND or style to a debut group, you should let them discover their niche and let them develop versatility, which would be the thread of their longevity.

 

I personally believe there is a little saljegi needed to somehow boost the groups' morale and help them get discovered. But not the unrealistic type where people would notice, you know?

 

But If that would'nt work, maybe the gg would have an inspirational debut like snsd or red velvet. and the boy group would have a mediocre catchy dance hit? if you won't go ambitious, just go for a timeless, simple and safe debut. and probably I'd have a popular feature in there. example, IU would write a song, or GD being a featured artist. Or a star studded mv like mamamoo, that would be nice.

 

Thanks. XD I plan to take business, or econ so maybe I'd start an entertainment company or manage in one in the future. XD

[Eggbin]

As I said, I'd do what sm did to exo. a trifecta pre-debut (or debut) to suit their needs. what is love, mama, and history was a great diverse line up you know. a ballad, dance and a heavy song fits nice to them.

 

With the gg, I would only go for a slow song after their debut, which would be g-friend like. their pre-debut song (the one where it will have an mv withou them to make people curious) would be more artistically mature. so they would have some diverse styles too. I'd seen omg do that and gather a lot of fans so I'd do that too. because you can't just put a BRAND or style to a debut group, you should let them discover their niche and let them develop versatility, which would be the thread of their longevity.

 

I personally believe there is a little saljegi needed to somehow boost the groups' morale and help them get discovered. But not the unrealistic type where people would notice, you know?

 

But If that would'nt work, maybe the gg would have an inspirational debut like snsd or red velvet. and the boy group would have a mediocre catchy dance hit? if you won't go ambitious, just go for a timeless, simple and safe debut. and probably I'd have a popular feature in there. example, IU would write a song, or GD being a featured artist. Or a star studded mv like mamamoo, that would be nice.

 

Thanks. XD I plan to take business, or econ so maybe I'd start an entertainment company or manage in one in the future. XD

 

 

I am taking one now lol. Hence, the poll

 

 

 

hope the company will happen

[biawakstruus]

Well,

 

[Happy Oppa]

 

 

I am taking one now lol. Hence, the poll

 

 

 

hope the company will happen

 

Oh, good luck with your course! I love how the concept of kpop inspired somehow by the motown where there's a formula for success. in where I live, we lack that. and it's a shame because talent is wasted in amateur singing contests here so maybe somewhere in the future we'd have that kind of impact around the asia too.

 

P.S: I live in the philippines so you'll have a clue on what I'm talking about.

[From A Distance]

This is definitely fun! Thanks for making this thread! However I'd like to try and put different spins on the options if that's ok.

 

Group A: Combine the two, use the company's known concept while adding the best elements of what the current trend is so we'd still try to match it, but in our own way (and consult with the members to get their opinion on how to approach it as well)

Group B: Seven years is a long time to be in the industry, once again I'd consult with the members and give them the hard facts (though they might have a feeling they know already) that the 2 members are popular with the general public. Assuming all these people are still passionate about performing, and considering their longtime fanbase, I'd want to continue to invest in the group as long as their hearts are in it, while preparing solo careers for the 2 members to make up for the losses. Then experiment with the other members, do they have untapped strengths in variety, acting, MC, modeling, CFs that we have not looked into before? I'd encourage them to go out of their comfort zone and try to get them opportunities in the other fields so they won't be stuck at home while the two members are promoting their solo albums, unless they wanted a break from the entire industry for a bit to just live life in the downtime.

Group C: I guess do both, but introduce the sub-unit first, then bring the whole group back at a later time. Talk with the members about how they think we should proceed as well. (I'd really like all my artists to be part of the process though I know that's not realistic with a lot of companies)

Group D & Solo E: Allow them to date in secret, if they truly like each other then who am I to break them apart? If it damages their reputations, then so be it. There's always a chance to bounce back. I would hope both have dedicated fanbases to keep them afloat though. And just because the Group D member has an unlikable reputation with the general public wouldn't necessarily mean they're a bad person, maybe they've been misunderstood by the media, and if the soloist is loved by the public, maybe them dating would put the Group D member in a better light? 
 

Group E: It's been 4 years since these 2 members left? Hmm, I guess do a public apology and take the risk of damaging the company. As long as we admit our faults, create a meaningful and honest apology, and actively try not to screw up in the future, company rep should come back as well. Then offer reparations/payment of damages to the two members who left as a show of good faith, and not block them on any shows even if their former group happens to be on.  Sure it'll be awkward if they meet, but hey, they had history together and possibly a good bond they could salvage, I wouldn't want to ruin that because of something the company did. 

 

Last Question: It's so subjective though xD No one really knows what song could be a hit or miss just because we invest in one side more than the other, but I'd like an equal balance of all, so hire a producer that's been known for composing great hits recently and have them collab with one or two of the members of the group who have a passion in composing to have them gain experience, place trust in them and put great effort in the MV and promotion as well. (So basically 2nd option, just praying the song isn't received as mediocre by the public)

Rereading all of this I don't know if I made the best decisions but I'd want to be a company who cares for our artists' needs first and have them actively participate in all parts of this business so it doesn't feel like I'm controlling every single one of their moves and telling them what to do just because I'm the big boss who had more experience, they could have great insight on how to proceed as well and I wouldn't want to silence their voices. I'm not at all business minded so please forgive these strange answers.

[GOMIE]

if I were a ceo of YG entertainment I'll dating my own artist LOL

[xoSARANGHAE]

the last question was really hard for me, i want to focus on the MV with good choreo and directing and a fun (not necessarily the best) song, they could still win 1st. 

 

too good of a debut and its going to be really hard to follow up.

[haru ☽]

No changes in Group A concept. More focus on the music. Send them to IS or Sketchbook to promote the group as "talented vocals", these shows usually brings positive attention to groups. 

 

 

Starts working on the solo career of these two members and prepare Group B to disband when their contract ends. Since the two members will already have a solo career going on, they would think it's smarter to renew the contract w/ the company. 

 

 

Continue to promote Group C as a group. Too risky to make a subunit out of a new group even tho the members are more famous than the rest. The best thing to do would be sending them to v-shows where they can show their dancing skills and drag attention to the group. 

 

 

Let Group D leader and Soloist E date, but gives a official statemente as soon as any rumors come out. Try to fix Group E's leader image by using their relationship ("love softned his heart!"), but not much media-play. 

 

 

The ex-members of Group E can follow their careers, don't care. Focus on the group.

 

 

60% of the attention should go to the songs. Songs > MV. If the song is good and the group is already well-known, there's no much need for too much promotions.