Wonder. 4,181 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 BIGBANG got popular after 1/2 years with lies SNSD got popular after 2 years with gee EXO got popular after a year with growl so isn't it a tiny bit crazy to judge a group's entire career based off their debut from 5 hours ago? just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VANTE 4,595 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 i agree, i still like twice's debut though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttercell 260 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Into the new world is personally still my favourite song from snsd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
양 지 10,015 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Tbh lol. All top groups get popular with that one "hit" song. And btw are we talking about Twice? Cause I haven't heard/seen it yet and idk what to expect with this thread :/ Edit: btw MAMA was my fuckin jam lol ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♡SEOLO♡ 2,773 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 twice is doing very well for a rookie group, but those threads about them flopping were expected because people here hyped them so much and "nation's girl group" and stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Don't Cry 5,451 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Big Bang got popular after one year with Lies. But it's right, some people have the weird idea that some groups need to hit #1 on Melon instantly, otherwise they're flops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fonci 3,962 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 "Girls' Generation" by SNSD is the 3rd most influential song of 2007 according to Gallup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GirlBye 27,959 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 No one is judging their entire career but a debut is a pretty good indicator of the direction a group is heading. You can't not expect people to discuss their performance and compare them with groups considered to be their "rivals" on a Kpop discussion forum lol. But yeah you bring up a great point but the only issue I see is that Kpop is so saturated especially with girl groups so it's easy to become irrelevant after a year or two . And SNSD had a great debut js. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonder. 4,181 Posted October 19, 2015 Author Share Posted October 19, 2015 Into the new world is personally still my favourite song from snsd. Tbh lol. All top groups get popular with that one "hit" song. And btw are we talking about Twice? Cause I haven't heard/seen it yet and idk what to expect with this thread :/ Edit: btw MAMA was my fuckin jam lol ;D i know these songs may be good but the point is they werent the ones that shoot them to popularity lol and yeah im talking about twice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonder. 4,181 Posted October 19, 2015 Author Share Posted October 19, 2015 twice is doing very well for a rookie group, but those threads about them flopping were expected because people here hyped them so much and "nation's girl group" and stuff that was mostly from trolls though tbh and yeah i guess but people are going overboard like and its just a point i wanted to make Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cytherial 4,589 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Yes because the trend has drastically changed since 2009 except for EXO, YG has been owning debut chances likr hot pancakes. If other agencies doesn't step up on the game it is likely that the future will also come from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonder. 4,181 Posted October 19, 2015 Author Share Posted October 19, 2015 "Girls' Generation" by SNSD is the 3rd most influential song of 2007 according to Gallup yeah but it isn't their signature song that rly pushed them into fame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhatter 182 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Into the new world is personally still my favourite song from snsd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonder. 4,181 Posted October 19, 2015 Author Share Posted October 19, 2015 Big Bang got popular after one year with Lies. But it's right, some people have the weird idea that some groups need to hit #1 on Melon instantly, otherwise they're flops. right sorry ill edit that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fonci 3,962 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 yeah but it isn't their signature song that rly pushed them into fame But Soshi was already popular on their debut year. They just blew up really big with Gee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nutella 6,108 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 EXO debuted in 2012 and Growl came out in 2013, how is that 3 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonder. 4,181 Posted October 19, 2015 Author Share Posted October 19, 2015 EXO debuted in 2012 and Growl came out in 2013, how is that 3 years? i wrote a year.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
∙��� × 天使。 701 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 so isn't it a tiny bit crazy to judge a group's entire career based off their debut from 5 hours ago? just saying Didn't see this being applied to iKON. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsallajoke 925 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Oh, La La La... Guilty pleasure #1. I kinda liked MAMA a lot too lol it had a nice concept Lies is exactly a year after BB's debut, tho.. edit: and actually I don't see the reason to put Haru Haru there, it was a hit, but they were already famous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonder. 4,181 Posted October 19, 2015 Author Share Posted October 19, 2015 But Soshi was already popular on their debut year. They just blew up really big with Gee. my point isnt rly revolved around snsd's fame, even though they were popular in their debut year no one would've known that they'd be the group who would end up as nation's gg.. wg was more popular and everything and not a lot of ppl would've thought snsd would overpass them someday and thats like my point u cant judge someone's entire career over a debut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttercell 260 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 i know these songs may be good but the point is they werent the ones that shoot them to popularity lol and yeah im talking about twice Ya I know, just a personal favourite. Its a bit harsh to judge them based on just 1 song. We all know that but since this is onehallyu. It isn't a flop but I guess it didn't reach that sky high expectations too. We know a good debut is great for groups but an ok debut isn't bad either? We never know the future anyway. Don't care about the charts much. If they are "flopping", let it be. Enjoy your music. Personally don't like their debut song but good luck to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_apologize 714 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Obligatory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonder. 4,181 Posted October 19, 2015 Author Share Posted October 19, 2015 Didn't see this being applied to iKON. true but guess i only realised it now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonder. 4,181 Posted October 19, 2015 Author Share Posted October 19, 2015 Oh, La La La... Guilty pleasure #1. I kinda liked MAMA a lot too lol it had a nice concept Lies is exactly a year after BB's debut, tho.. edit: and actually I don't see the reason to put Haru Haru there, it was a hit, but they were already famous. sorry lmao but yknow i dont know all the details since im not a huge big bang fan but ill edit it if u want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fonci 3,962 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 my point isnt rly revolved around snsd's fame, even though they were popular in their debut year no one would've known that they'd be the group who would end up as nation's gg.. wg was more popular and everything and not a lot of ppl would've thought snsd would overpass them someday and thats like my point u cant judge someone's entire career over a debut Your thread is kind of also pointing out "Top group's Popularity on debut". I merely pointed out some neglected facts And yeah, I got your point. Twice is a rookie group with lots of opportunity still ahead of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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