Official Plastic Surgery Thread

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16 minutes ago, UrmiUndone said:

I think Even Winter has gotten Jaw shave now. Just checked the Next Level MV.

I'm pretty sure she didn't. Her face shape hasn't changed and besides, she didn't have time to recover from a jaw shave. Not everyone one with a v-line or a weaker jaw has had a jaw shave. In fact, most people haven't. Aespa (and SM in general) is the anomaly, at least for now.

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5 minutes ago, tiramisu cake said:

yunseong from drippin.... did he get something done? his jawline and chin look questionable LOL 
his face is really cute but whatever they did with his chin is weird and i couldn't help but to notice it in the video i was watching
 

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It looks like chin fillers or a chin implant to me. I hate to say it but I’m really not a fan of this overly pointy chin look on a lot of people. It’s not a feature that fits every face and I feel like it often draws attention to itself, and not in a good way. Hopefully it’s just filler in Yunseong’s case and will dissipate with time.

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2 hours ago, himi said:

i thought jeno would be natural but seems like he had minor touch ups.

What do you think he’s had done? I looked into/posted on him the other day and didn’t catch anything .

2 hours ago, himi said:

Been reading this thread a lot lately so has everyone in nct had done something? is there any member that haven't gone under the knife?

I’d have to do look more closely at some of the members individually but off the top of my head I’d say Jeno (why I’m curious about what you think he had done) and Jisung seem like they may be natural as well as some of Wayv. Mark’s done nose fillers but the consensus as of now seems to be he’s natural besides that. 

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2 hours ago, himi said:

oh wait i just realized i typed jeno. i meant to say jaemin. seems like he might have had nose fillers or smtn

have haechan had something done too?

 

1 hour ago, Oriane said:

I think Haechan has done something to his nose/eyes

Haechan seems like he's had some subtle refinements to his nose. I'm not sure about his eyes though. Jaemin's done his nose and he may have had his eyelids clipped. 

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4 hours ago, igotaboyonmychin said:

His eyes. 
If I were you, I wouldn't use his SM Rookies pics because who knows what SM could've done to his face when he became a trainee. At the end of the day, Taeyong was their new ultra visual, their second Jaejoong so they had to polish his looks before introducing him to the public. 

Looking closely at his pre SM Rookies pictures, you can see that his eyes were smaller, more sleepy in a way? 

And then he started looking like this:

His eyes are even, more open and you can see less lid space. Which visually shortens the space between his eyes and his brows, if that makes sense. That's what I was talking about. 

Oh interesting. I definitely see what you mean. His double eyelids were more exposed pre-SM. I think he's raising his eyebrows in the second pic but they still looked kind of uneven. His right crease used to be an "outline," meaning it was above the epicanthic fold. His left one was more of an "outline" as well but the crease sat slightly lower and closer to the epicanthic fold, which is why his eyelids appeared asymmetrical. Now, both of his eyelids are "in-lines." They are symmetrical and are mostly hidden under the epicanthic fold, only visible above the outer corner. I stick by the fact that he hasn't had an epicanthoplasty, his inner corners haven't changed, but this makes me think he may have had his double eyelids redone to lower them and even them out. 

I think it's interesting to note that Koreans actually prefer lower creases for men than for women. (Part of why monolids are more accepted for men than women as well.) I read somewhere that high double eyelid creases on a man supposedly make him look "sleazy" though that's kind of ridiculous imo.

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34 minutes ago, Bbaeby78 said:

I saw this video on ins today and suddenly think of our topic about idols’ height one day.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/COwPlwmj464/?utm_medium=copy_link

basing on this vid, Eunwoo seems to be much taller than Jungkook, 7cm at least

Eunwoo’s profile height is around 183cm, however next to Mingyu, he looks like this, so I doubt there’s only 4cm between them

Mingyu has said himself that he frequently wears insoles so I’m not sure he would be the best person to compare to.

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14 hours ago, arelle said:

hi! i've been a visitor of this thread and decided to create an account to comment here.

i haven't been keeping up with kpop at all since late 2017 but only recently got back into it in early may this year. and wow .... tons of idols look different, whether it's a drastic change or a slight amount (not to mention all the new groups i'm trying to keep up with now lmao). i have so many questions about some idols and what procedures they got.

1) nayeon looks so different since the last time i saw her in likey and heart shaker. does anyone know what she might have done since then? it looks like her eyes and nose have changed a lot.

2) tzuyu, sana, and momo also look slightly different but sana has definitely changed the most .....

3) what happened with jungkook's eyes? his eyes used to be so doe-like and round up til dna era. idk but after some googling, it looks like his eyes started looking different since fake love era. his eyes look slightly sharper and definitely have changed compared to a few years back.

4) rm's eyes also look like they've changed too? pls correct me if i'm wrong. his eyes also look a bit sharper and elongated compared to his pics in 2017.

5) skz's felix and hyunjin both look different too, esp hyunjin ?? i'm so confused, they look sorta the same but they also don't.

6) i heard about wendy's situation and definitely understand her situation. however, joy and yeri also look like they've changed?

7) ...... chungha ......

lisa's nose also looks like they raised it a bit more? it looks much more defined compared to back in 2017. she looks slightly different.

9) jaehyun and esp taeyong ???? did sm mess around with taeyong's eyes or what bc i'm a bit pissed off. last time i saw him he used to look like this: 

and now he looks something like this:

i could be wrong, maybe he grew into his features or something? there is a three or more (?) year difference between these two pics so i'm not super sure. but he definitely gives off a different vibe from before with the slight tweaks he did - does anyone have a decent idea of what he changed?

thanks in advance to anyone who responds!

Please ignore the clowning! Your post was really respectful and you actually made some really good insights! I don't know why people are offended. Anyway, I'll do my best to answer your questions but I haven't really done in depth research on a lot of these people (this is mostly what I've observed in passing/picked up from this thread) so I may be off. 

Okay, so first off, I'll start with Taeyong because I've actually looked into him in detail recently to debunk speculation he got an epicanthoplasty. I posted about it a few pages ago, but basically, his eyes haven't changed, a least since debut. It does, however, seem like he's been experimenting quite a bit with fillers which could explain why he seems different to you. I don't see any recent invasive procedures though I could be missing something.

As for Jaehyun, he seems to have gotten a fair amount done over the years. Jaw shave predebut which he later remedied partially with jaw implants. He also seems like he's gotten some inner eye corner work (an epicanthoplasty) and an alarplasty (basically narrows the nose by bringing the sides in but doesn't remove cartilage). His initial jaw shave left some lose skin under his chin and I think he uses botox in that area to tighten it. Jaehyun has also gone through a lot of body changes (he's kind of a serial exerciser and I believe he diets a lot as well) which may account for some of the changes in him.

Nayeon and Momo and Sana all seem to be using fillers lately which explains why they seem fuller faced, especially in the cheek area. Nayeon and Momo I don't see any other major changes in, though I could have overlooked something. As for Sana, she's definitely changed the most. You're right. In addition to fillers she seems to have had some corner work which made her eyes seem even bigger and more anime as well as a cheekbone shave. The cheekbone shave was the biggest change and probably why she looks so different because it altered her overall face shape. Tzuyu seems to have had some corner work as well and also some conservative lip fillers.

For Jungkook, he's been messing with his nose and eyes for years now. I haven't really been keeping track of all the gradations, and as for RM, I have no idea. I'd have to do some research.

Felix has made quite a few subtle changes over the years: nose, jaw, possibly inner corners. Hyunjin seems to have gotten a chin implant and possibly lip fillers as well. Both Felix and Hyunjin have lost weight (I think Hyunjin kind of flew under the radar?) which once again may have contributed to them looking different.

Chungha I know is a big fan of fillers. I'm not sure if she's made any invasive changes in the last few years.

As for Lisa, I think she may have had some more work done on her nose. Maybe the implant swapped out which could explain a slightly higher bridge. I'd need to look into it more though.

Thank you for being understanding towards Wendy I feel she's gotten a lot of unintentional flack on this thread about the changes in her face since the accident. Wendy's one of my ults and she's so talented and beautiful. She's had a really hard time and I think the best thing we can do is embrace her for who she is now and as she is now. Yeri and Joy do look somewhat different. I haven't been paying that close attention to them but I think Yeri has at least been doing fillers and Joy has maybe done something to her chin? I'm not sure if it would be a chin implant or chin fillers. She's another one who seems to have lost weight recently.

I hope that helps and please, anyone correct me if I'm wrong or missed anything!

 

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35 minutes ago, yoohyeons pie said:

I think fromis_9 have done these cosmetic procedures over the years -

saerom = epicantoplasty

hayoung = botched lip fillers

gyuri = teen straightening

jiwon = blepheroplasty, fake dimples (?), eyebrows (?)

jisun = natural (?)

seoyeon = natural

chaeyoung = blepheroplasty, nose implant (?)

nagyung = canthoplasty on her asymetrical eyelid

jiheon = dorsal hump removal (nose bridge bump)

hope this helps for any lurkers in this thread, still not sure for ones in question marks.

Question - by blepheroplasty do you mean double eyelid surgery? I've seen the terms thrown around somewhat interchangeably but as far as I know they are actually not the same thing. Blerpheroplasty removes the fat pad above the eye which can reveal a double eyelid crease if one is already there. Double eyelid surgery involves making an incision to create a new crease. Chaeyoung has admitted to having double eyelids done, not blerpheroplasty as far as I know.

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1 hour ago, yoohyeons pie said:

i must have said it wrong, but yes she did have a double eyelid, but the procedure made the crease deeper.

No worries! Yeah that would be double eyelid surgery. Is that what you meant for Jiwon too?

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13 hours ago, sanchelin said:

I personally don't see a nose job for him, but at the same time it's hard to believe 7/8 members had one and he didn't. Aside from his nose, I think he did his eyelids. For a while I thought it was eyelid tape but lately the crease has been prominent even without makeup, so I'm inclined to believe he got them done

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Bare faced about a week ago

Vlive from a couple days ago 

I'm with you on the nose job thing. I personally don't see one either and I looked at many, many pictures to compare, trying to find a difference. 

I think a slight alarplasty is possible but I'm more inclined to believe his nose is natural. 

As for his eyelids, I actually don't see double eyelid surgery. The thing is that his eyelids are inner. So basically, when his eyes are wide open and he's looking straight ahead there's no visible crease; the crease is hidden. When he's looking down or his eyes are partially closed the crease becomes visible. When the angles are matched and his eyes are equally open, the eyelid crease looks pretty much the same.

 

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lol was stoned watching txt’s new video and found myself analyzing yeonjun’s near-uncanny valley face for way too long so i put together some photos i thought demonstrated the work he’s has done thus far. sorry if any of this has been discussed at length here before. also i don’t know any of the names for these procedures lol

it seems to me like yeonjun has a bit of an underbite, and i think some of his cosmetic work has been centered on trying to make that less obvious by crafting a more oval-shaped face.  

at debut his chin area was a bit heavier and overall his face seemed to be wider/rounder. the crazy weight loss atm no doubt exaggerates his appearance, but the totally different shape of his jaw on his side profile that wasn’t present at debut makes me believe he’s had his mandible area shaved and added slight filler to his chin to both slim his jaw and give the illusion that his face overall is longer and sharper. 

I notice that while his nostrils appear to be the same shape still, they are much more angled than before. while he’s had an obvious implant to heighten his nose and a ton of lip filler, the area where his nose meets his cupid now appears to have more height overall than before. if the nose implant and lip fillers alone cannot push the face profile outward like that, then i’m curious if it’s possible to have a small implant put under that area to achieve that effect.

i also think that he’s cut the inner corners of his eyes and outer corners of his lips

that’s all i got 

 

 

 

I think that, for what it's worth, he hasn't touched his mandible angle. It doesn't look shorter to me:

 

My guess is the change in his face-width comes from flesh rather than bone. Either just weight loss or weight loss and fat removal.

It also looks like his chin is further projected forward. My guess is this change is either from a chin implant or maybe chin fillers:

 I'm with everyone on the recent nose work. It's pretty clear that his bridge was raised in the comparison above. I think though, that he may have already had some nose work done before that.

His nose before joining BH seemed to have a lower bridge and be wider than his nose circa 2019:

 

The last thing I'm going to say may sound a little crazy because this procedure isn't common in the kpop industry, but I think Yeonjun may have had a lip lift. Sometime around Run Away era judging by these pics:

Yes, I think he gets lip fillers as well, but his cupid's bow literally seems pulled upwards, and, as far as I know, lip fillers don't do that.

As for his eyes, I'm honestly not sure:

Predebut:

2016:

Now:

 

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22 hours ago, UrmiUndone said:

I think BH is trying to make Yeonjun their version of Jaejoong+Heechul combined together. TXT is more their traditional boyband tbh- and Yeonjun's success could make or break them. 

The thing is Yeonjun never really was a good fit with Korean beauty standards. His appeal was more in being unique-looking (the monolids I saw mentioned before) and having this kind of playful charisma to him (as well as being a great performer and an all-rounder). TXT have members who fit the standards to a T so I don't really see why BH would try to make Yeonjun into something he's not when they already have those members. Yeonjun actually doesn't fit the standards much more now than he did at around debut with his initial work (which I thought was quite well done overall). Instead, I think that recently he's really lost some of that light in his eyes. He looks unhealthy to me (probably partially the extreme weight loss) and I'm honestly worried about him. My guess, and I could be wrong, is that he's the one choosing to have work done, at least in the most part. He was very popular with the features he had at debut, and as I said before, is never going to be the perfect kpop visual like Jaejoong or Heechul. His appeal really draws from his charisma. I don't follow TXT now (I did around debut) but I've seen a clip or two about Yeonjun talking about how he wants to lose weight. I think that shows that the choice to lose, at least, comes mostly from him. He's seems to not be satisfied with his body so I don't think it would be too much of a stretch to guess he's not satisfied with his face either, which is why he's getting all this work done. If this is the case, it's honestly extremely worrying, and I'm not in a position to diagnose anybody, but the signs point towards him possibly having some sort of dysmorphia. My hope is that maybe he can receive support and improve his mental health and his relationship with his body (if that really is an issue). He's such a talented performer and so charismatic both on and off stage. I really hope he can get some of that light in his eyes back.

 

 

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4 hours ago, Ten's Nose said:

genuine question, what has hyunjin gotten done besides that chin implant (which i'll never not feel bad about because he was literally gorgeous to begin with)? i've seen people mention lip fillers but his lips were big to begin with and i don't really see any other blatant differences from the survival show era tbh

I think he’s also had his inner corners cut. Though his lips have always been full, I think he has done some fillers to them recently just because they’ve been looking even bigger than before. I honestly don’t really get why people say he’s had a ton of work done? Chin implant and epicanthoplasty are the only invasive procedures that I can pin point on him and that I’ve seen discussed on this thread, but maybe I’m missing something. 

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4 hours ago, Sandarella said:

What has Jaemin from NCT got done? really curious... 

I think Jaemin’s done his nose and he also may have had his double eyelid creases deepened. Recently, I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s experimenting with fillers. His face looks a little fuller than usual.

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1 hour ago, Bebekeke said:

close friend’s sister works in the entertainment circle, and with HYBE’s TXT 

* yeonjun had surgery to widen eyes. this was because the cat-eyed look was popular. he decided against a jawline surgery. he has nose fillers to even out his nose bridge and small amount of chin fillers every now and then (eg during comeback).

* taehyun had rhinoplasty to reduce his nose size. he considered doing chin implant to project the chin more but it was decided that his feature would be too exaggerated. his complexion is said to be the worst amongst the members. he has some nose fillers to even out his nose bridge every now and then.

* beomgyu has had no plastic surgery, so he is very confident in his looks and title as main visual. he was asked by the company to whiten his skin tone as he was naturally very tanned and dark. he had a little fillers for his sunken eyecircles.

* soobin has had botox done for his jaw to slim his face, as his cheeks and jawline are not very defined, but no plastic surgery. his complexion is said to be the best amongst the members. 

* hueningkai had no plastic surgery, but was asked to correct his teeth before he debuted. it was decided that his exotic features would not need to fit into korean beauty standards

Hi! I'm not trying to be rude but I honestly find it a little strange that you would have this information? Companies REALLY don't want any of this stuff to get leaked and they must take extreme measures to prevent that from happening. Otherwise, a bunch of idols PS would have gotten out in the past. If your close friend's sister really worked with TXT she would most likely be made to sign agreements not to disclose any of their PS information, not to mention the fact that in many countries it's illegal to share someone's medical history (including any PS) if you have first hand knowledge of it.

I also find it hard to believe that Beomgyu's and Yeonjun's noses, and Yeonjun's lips are natural. The rest of this I could buy. Honestly, and I'm not trying to accuse you of anything, but if you didn't get this information from someone in connection with TXT, please just speculate like the rest of us. If you did, well, then I don't think it's information you should be sharing.  

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23 hours ago, tafattsbarn said:

Beomgyu looks pretty much identical (maybe some small tweaks that i'm too unobservant to notice) to pre-debut though. I agree about the rest though lol 

 

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(spoilered the selcas from when he was a bighit trainee)

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More pics (there's a shit ton of pre-debut beomgyu pics lol): https://www.google.com/search?q=beomgyu+predebut&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwi_italjf7wAhUIxYsKHSeuCMAQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=beomgyu+predebut&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQA1AAWABgivYQaABwAHgAgAEAiAEAkgEAmAEAqgELZ3dzLXdpei1pbWc&sclient=img&ei=Oy26YP-AMIiKrwSn3KKADA&bih=722&biw=1536

OT but why have i all of a sudden become so active here when i said i was gonna go back to lurking lol, mess 

He looks quite similar to his predebuts, but I wouldn't say identical. There are still some subtle differences. Subtle enough that you really need to put two pics taken at the similar angles side by side to see the difference:

 I think it's pretty clear he's had his nose done. His nose seems both narrower and more defined through the tip, and higher through the bridge. He also naturally had double eyelids, but they look more prominent these days, leading me to think he may have had them deepened.

His eye corners look the same and so does his jaw/chin, lips, etc. His eyes and nose seem to be the only changes, and even then, they're fairly subtle and most likely would pass as natural to the untrained eye. (He also had a mole by the corner of his mouth which seems to have disappeared so he may have had that removed). He still looks like his predebut self, just slightly more refined, and in my opinion, I think that's the way PS should be (even though I think his work was overall pretty unnecessary). As for childhood/baby photos, those really aren't a reliable source. Babies naturally have bigger eyes, smaller noses, no clear jawline, etc which makes any differences near impossible to see. It's better to compare photos from adolescence when the face is pretty much done growing. 

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1 hour ago, Bebekeke said:

The photos here are heavily photoshopped, so no use for comparing. If you see videos of him, his nose does not look this perfect and straight, and his eyes are not that deepset. He looks a lot like his pre debut self.

He had a mole removal but that is not considered plastic surgery. He has mentioned this before to fans 

These are press photos. If anything is not going to be photoshopped, it's them. (Stuff from the company and the idol themselves is the most likely to be photoshopped ie selfies, photoshoots, teasers etc). I have seen videos of him. I used to be a TXT stan and a Beomgyu stan specifically. I know what his nose looks like in motion and it looks pretty much the same as it does in those photos. Anyway, if you don't want to believe he has any work done, that's fine. I'm not trying to make you believe something you won't. I don't want to fight over this so if you could please not quote me and just let this drop I would really appreciate that. Thanks. 

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3 hours ago, sawarin said:

am i the only one that thinks that gidle miyeon and the boyz’ hyunjae have the same nose? at least from the side they both remind me a lot of each other and i can’t find many pictures of them from the side predebut instead of full front but can that kind of perfect nose can’t be natural right?

They do have very similar noses (I think they're both gotten a lot of praise for their noses because they are considered very ideal in Korea). I'm pretty sure Hyunjae's nose is natural:

For the front view:

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I've seen some speculation on this thread that he may have gotten nose fillers in the last year or so. I wouldn't be too surprised by that by if he did, it was quite subtle. 

For Miyeon, I wouldn't be that surprised if her nose was natural too. Like you said, she lacks predebuts. This is really all there is from before she was a trainee and honestly, she's too young in the here to really say (the angles also don't match up). The nose doesn't really fully develop until adolescence:

I will say, if she did her nose, it was before she did her jaw, because she still has her original jaw in this video from when she was a trainee but her nose is the same as the one she has now:

Also, I doubt there's an implant of any sort in her nose. Her bridge is too irregular. There's a slight dorsal hump:

 Implants create a perfectly straight bridge. If she did raise her bridge somehow, my bet is it would have to have been done with fillers.

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6 minutes ago, lighterxx said:

his nose tip seems a bit lifted? i think for both they were already good looking and everything they did is to fix small details or fix areas they dislike. I only pity Miyeon's jaw honestly 

I see what you mean for his tip but I think that may be do to his mouth position? The tip pulls down for a lot of people when they smile. I'm honestly not sure. I do agree for Miyeon's jaw. She's stunning but I just think that procedure was so unnecessary.

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4 hours ago, zhvero said:

When did Nayeon get a jaw shave? I was watching the new twice interview and at the 2:31 mark when Nayeon turns her head to the side you can clearly see her jaw and it was smooth 

 

 

3 hours ago, zhvero said:

She doesn't have a mandible. Not having one is literally the easiest way to tell someone shaved their jaw

 

2 hours ago, purplefrancis said:

i sometimes get dubious of people saying idols shaved their jaw because it seems like such an invasive procedure that would take a loooong time to heal from - like when would she have had time to get it done?

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in some images she does seem to have some looseness around her jaw but yeah, in most cases (not all) i always feel hesitant about saying someone definitely had a jaw shave - nayeon maybe had other procedures to her jawline or chin but from a non-stan perspective, twice just seem to be constantly active, always shooting or promoting something so idk when she could have fit a jaw shave into her schedule

I know I quoted a lot of people (sorry about that) but I just wanted to cover all my bases. Okay:

1). Nayeon has a mandible angle. I want to make this really clear because I saw some comments saying she didn't. She does. It's fairly weak and often hidden under softer facial flesh or draw over with contour but it's there. Here are some pics where you can clearly see it:

This by itself doesn't mean Nayeon didn't have a jaw shave. What is does mean though is we can't go around claiming she definitely had one without further evidence on account that "her jaw is smooth."

2). What you guys are seeing in this clip isn't her jawbone. Her jawbone has never been that prominent from this angle. This here is a line of contour:

 Some stylists really like just drawing straight lines are their idols jaws to make them seem narrower, which, if the mandible is already weak, can effectively camouflage it and give the illusion that the jaw goes straight up to the ear, even when it doesn't. (Sungchan is another example of this.) Nayeon's jaw is frequently contoured and has been for years:

This is her actual jaw bone:

3). Her jaw recently looks the same as ever and no different from how it looked even predebut:

It's just at this angle and with this head position, the mandible angle is less visible than if she was tilting her head up or away from the camera and stretching the skin over the bone.

My advice for anyone who's trying to detect a jaw shave is find the bone first. A jaw shave literally shaves the bone, so if there isn't a visible change in the bone, then there probably wasn't a jaw shave. I'd also mention that jaw shaves should be visible from the front. That's the whole point of them. So if someone's lower face doesn't look narrower than before, I think it's also unlikely that they had a jaw shave. As for the "mandible angle being nonexistent/the jaw going straight up to the ear thing" that definitely exits and is likely the sign of a jaw shave. However, you have to make sure what you're seeing is actually the jaw bone. That it's the jawbone that goes straight up to the ear, not that the mandible angle is hidden under skin or makeup.

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19 hours ago, Kabana said:

Hey! Twice has been talked about a lot, and there is a search function you can use so you can see all of the posts about Twice :). I know Onehallyu’s search function didn’t work, but now it’s working :). Just click on the magnifying glass on the top right corner (it shows that when I’m on mobile idk about the web), and just follow the instructions.

i am sad that Sana got her cheek bones reduced  . I find high cheekbones beautiful

 

18 hours ago, Jikrytae said:

I don't know when you think she would've even found the time for such a drastic procedure. 

 

18 hours ago, Kabana said:

I saw a few people on here saying she did showing before and after pictures. I do hope it’s just the angle :(( 

I didn't really have an opinion on this, whether or not Sana had her cheekbones reduced debate, but after seeing these comments I did decide to look into it. The first thing I want to say is that she actually did have time to do this procedure. I googled cheek bone reductions and it supposedly takes three months for the swelling to dissipate. Sana did have that time. There was about a four month gap between award show season and More and More promotions. So, I think this means we can't use her "not having enough time" as an excuse in this case.

As for whether or not her cheekbones as less prominent than before or not, this quora post (and I can't believe I'm saying it) actually makes a really good case for her having had her cheekbones reduced. I'll put some of the comparisons from it here:

 

Her zygoma does look less projected than before. It's fairly subtle and not something you'd probably notice without putting pics side by side to compare, but there is definitely a difference. 

Please remember that she likely had her cheekbones reduced, not removed. Of course she still has cheekbones. They are just not quite as prominent. Just because she still has apparent cheekbones in current pictures that she didn't have them reduced. Her cheekbones used to be even more apparent than they are now and bone doesn't just shrink of its own accord.

That being said, you don't have to agree with me. This is just my opinion and what I observe, and of course no hate or judgement towards Sana whatsoever. It's her face and her decision. Not to mention this is all just speculation. We have no way of knowing for sure what she did or did not have done. But please, users, be respectful of other people's opinions and don't make personal attacks, like saying people have no idea what they're talking about. That's just not civil. You can respectfully disagree, and if you do, please provide a counter argument and use comparisons, not just pictures showing that she still has cheekbones because, yeah, of course she does. Thank you.

 

Edited June 10, 2021 by meeeplet

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19 hours ago, good_morning said:

Not only her lips, sis has done sth to her eyes too… and she’s only 16 and was already drop dead gorgeous! Should’ve wait for her features to settle, let her grow into them smh

It seems like she may have shaved her chin as well (there are some posts on it a while back). If she did, it’s really unfortunate and I wonder if that procedure was in some ways a reaction to netizen comments - I remember someone mentioned recently that she was getting back-handed compliments about how she would have a great visual as long as her chin stopped growing. 

Edited June 14, 2021 by meeeplet

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4 hours ago, munyuna said:

oh i really dont trust Wonyoung selfies. she edits her photos to the point of distortion and its almost as scary as having surgery at her young age

I think Yujin edits her selfies too, specifically, she seems to make her chin even more v-shaped despite already having work done in that area. The fact that they both tinker with their pics (especially after already having work done) could be a sign of dysmorphia which is very concerning, especially given they're both teenagers. I frankly find it to be even more concerning than PS at a young age because they could consider PS to be something that "comes with the territory" of being an idol. Dysmorphia, on the other hand, has to do with their mental health and their view of their bodies. Being a teenage girl is hard enough without being in the spotlight and all the positive and negative attention that comes from that. I really hope that their parents and Starship are providing them with the mental support they need. (Now is probably a challenging time for them especially given IZONE's disbandment and figuring out their next steps).

Edited June 13, 2021 by meeeplet

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15 hours ago, Lurkeroncry said:

I doubt Wonyoung would have done something as invasive as a jaw/chin shave. There might be possibilites for fillers but shaving is just reckless for her age. Anyway I don't really found anything to be different with Wonyoung tbh so idk if she even did anything and just edited her photos

 

11 hours ago, sawarin said:

wonyoung’s jaw area is the same as her predebut pictures from when she was 12-13, she has slimmed since so she lost the cheeks she had back then. if anything, maybe bucal fat removal? but i really doubt it. she’s used the snow app’s slimming filter on her face before too and honestly the no makeup-makeup that she has in the picture is kinda weird. 

edit: now that we’re on the subject of izone… anything on minju and chaewon? i believe chaewon is pretty much all natural? but i fear she’s gonna be getting a  nosejob in the future. 

I looked back at the old posts and yep, it looks like photos used to compare were filtered/edited to make her chin look smaller. Thanks for pointing that out! I agree. In unedited content her chin doesn't look any different. Thank goodness. 

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On 6/21/2021 at 4:20 PM, Lyanna15171 said:

Surprisingly, people have barely discussed Infinite here. I think they might truly be one of the most natural groups. L's nose seems too prefect to be real, but it hasn't changed much so ID even K. I think Woohyun got a nose implant, and maybe Sunkgyu, Sungjong, and Hoya as well, but other than that I really can't see anything. Hoya also might have gotten some sort of blepharoplasty? His eyes look taller but it's not double eyelid surgery or canthoplasty. They all look remarkably similar to they childhood photos. Sungjong and Hoya have some of the best bone structures in kpop in my opinion, I'm so glad they left their jaws alone. 

 

 Dongwoo's lips are really what every overfilled insta model wishes they could have lol. 

 

Sungyeol also has really great nice lips.

You're right! They've barely been mentioned here (which I, as an Infinite fan, find kind of sad), but anyway, thank you for bringing them up! They're overall fairly natural imo. Here are my thoughts:

Sunggyu:

I think he's had a nose job. It's fairly obvious when looking at this comparison:

His bridge looks higher and the tip seems more upturned. You can see more of his nostrils. I don't see any other procedure for him though I could be missing something. 

Dongwoo:

He looks natural to me though again, I could be missing something.

Woohyun:

I actually don't see a nose implant for him. I think he's actually a good example of someone who was just naturally has a high nose. Implants create a perfectly straight or ski-sloped bridge and if you look at Woohyun's nose closely, you'll actually see that his bridge has some irregularities: 

If he did anything to raise his nose bridge, it was likely filler, though I doubt he did. His nose looks pretty much the same as it did in his predebuts:

He seems natural to me overall as well: 

Hoya:

I agree it looks like he's had some eyework. 

My best guess would be an epicanthoplasty like you suggested (his inner corners seem rounder and more open then before) and also maybe a blepheroplasty (I see more of his iris now than in his predebuts). He may have had also lateral canthoplasty but I'm not very experienced at spotting that procedure.

Sungyeol:

I think he had some dental work. In his predebut pics it looks like he had somewhat of an overbite which seems to have been corrected:

L/Myungsoo:

The first thing I see for him is that he used to have a sleepy eye which he likely had corrected (probably through some form of ptosis-correction surgery which may have been strictly medical rather than cosmetic). His eyes used to look uneven and they don't anymore:

He may have had some subtle nose work. The tip looks slightly more defined/more upturned and the bridge may have been slightly raised:

Sungjong:

I think he seems natural as well, though I'm a little unsure about his eyes:

I hope that was helpful!

 

Edit: I think I may be seeing an epicanthoplasty, a lateral canthoplasty, and an upper blepheroplasty for Sungjoong. He has more iris show on top, plus his double eyelid crease is visible now when it wasn't in the predebut. His inner corners also look more defined and his lateral canthus lower, making his eyes less upturned.

Edited February 22, 2022 by meeeplet