Official Plastic Surgery Thread

[Rei sakuma]

22 minutes ago, loveablejoy said:

I see nothing. Not even in the photos.

Has her jaw and eyes always looked like that? I couldn't recognize her at first.

[Rei sakuma]

23 hours ago, Rei sakuma said:

Has her jaw and eyes always looked like that? I couldn't recognize her at .

Not to sound annoying but what's up with the reactions on this? Why are ya'll acting like I took her photo and edited it?? It's literally from the video? I said "has her jaw and eyes always looked like that? I couldn't recognize her at first". I didn't even diss her at all? I just said that she looks different to me. What's the point of this thread if we're not allowed to say that someone looks different? if someone disagrees then they can just quote me and post pictures that prove that yuna has always looked like that (since that would answer my question). 

Sometimes I do understand why miss Kenta left. 

Edited September 23, 2021 by Rei sakuma

[Rei sakuma]

10 hours ago, Fonduuee said:

No here did that? The COMPANY could have edited the video footage since that is common practice in the entertainment . angle or filter put over it could have been funky as well, but no accused you of editing it yourself. 

Read my post again. I said "why are ya'll acting like I took her photo and edited it". I said that because I just took a screenshot from the teaser and posted it so I was confused at some of the reaction I got. I didn't understand why I was getting negged when I just commented that she looked different. 
 

Edit: After coming back and reading this again I don’t think I fully understand what you’re trying to say (genuinely). 

Edited September 23, 2021 by Rei sakuma

[Rei sakuma]

19 hours ago, Fonduuee said:

The that these pictures came from the MV means that a lot of things could've affected the final , and of those things affected could've been how her face looks in this scene. I wouldn't doubt if Yuna did have some more stuff done, but I wouldn't doubt if she didn't. She does look different in you posted, but it's just a good since that scene alone went through lots of editing, work, filtering, etc. I'm am sorry that my own post came off like I was negging you and that wasn't my intention.

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Damn I just read back all our convo and realized how dense I sounded.

It was a misunderstanding on my part. I was confused about your "no one accused you" comment since I used the "why are ya'll acting like I edited it" mainly as an exaggeration to justify the reaction I was getting. It was purely a rhetorical question. I was not questioning any of you guys when you said we need to use several photos in order to come to a conclusion. I even stated that this was just a screenshot from the teaser several times. 

in hindsight, the people who negged me probably thought I was using those two pics to say that she had something done and assumed that I got mad when I was told that 2 pics isn't enough. It would explain why others quoted me and explain that using pictures directly from the company wasn't enough. That only made me even more confused bcz that wasn't the question I wanted answered. Either way it was wrong/unclear wording on my part.

let's move on from this since I don't think arguing about edited photos will be beneficial for any of us on this thread. Now that LOCO era has started, we can look closer at them without the obstruction of a highly paid video editor. Again, I'm sorry for seeming like a clown. 

[Rei sakuma]

Hey guys, I'm back to raise a question that has been irking me for a bit. I've heard (I think from a Lorry Hill video) that a nose that has been operated on will tend to shrink through the years as opposed to natural noses that tends to get bigger with age. I've also heard that a reason why doctors put stilts in the nose after a rhinoplasty is to make sure the nose heals in a desired way because without it the nose would go back to it's original shape. It's something about the way the body remembers the places where tissues are supposed to be. I'm fairly certain about this information but I probably didn't explain it properly so sorry if it was confusing.

Now for my question, I know that the shrinkage is mostly due to the skin thinning but for example, if someone gets surgery to mainly make their nose more upturned, will their nose tip continue to become even more upturned with age (if that makes sense).

I ask this because I've noticed multiple strange things going on with SVT's Jeonghan's nose even though the consensus is that he only had his nose tweaked majorly once (to remove the hump) and but I think he may have had it done once again that is making him look a bit off. 

This caught my attention when I saw this scene in their jacket making film (don't drag me yet for using an "official" photo, i have more pics).

^ It seems like his nose tip is overly reduced and upturned. (similar to clc's sorn if that makes sense).

^ Even from the front angle, it is clear that his nose tip is much more pushed back that his nostrils.

^ from this angle, it seems like from his supratip break, his nose drops down. An opposite of this would be the enhypen boys with their pointy nose tip.

And of course, it is no secret that his nose has looked like this for a while now but I feel like it has changed a bit. I found this photo around the time I believe he had his nose done again (before left and right comeback) and it looks different to what it looks now. 

^ it looks like his nose has just recently healed and it looks softer and rounder than ever.

^ This is a wonderfully done gif that miss @KentasGlittery EyeMakeup made a couple hundred pages ago. it shows his nose evolution from debut to 2018. And it shows the first nose job I talked about and how it looks different to the nose he has now. It looked like it had more tip support and structure than it has now.

So I guess what I'm asking is that did he get another nose job done by an unexperienced doctor that made his nose rounder and tip even more upturned or is it the natural progression of having a (badly) done nose job. 

Please give me some replies for this I'm so confused with his nose bcz it seems rounder and "softer" every other month but I can't decide whats happening.

Edited October 16, 2021 by Rei sakuma

[Rei sakuma]

11 minutes ago, gam3 bo1 said:

i saw this thread in passing and it made me  because i'm not a fan of enhypen but i do know lots of them have been discussed here for having really similar nose jobs to each other. is jay one of those members or is he thought to have his natural nose? because if it's the case that he's had one of those nose jobs then his mum's response is a tad funny

 

Yes jay is one of the members who i'm pretty sure had a nose job. His nose really is indeed well done but I think his mother's remark could also be about how jay got his nose from his parents? Like it's thanks to them that he has that nose? 

[Rei sakuma]

16 minutes ago, i_m_not_hendery said:

Where Doyoung's always at different sizes or plastic surgery or just photoshop fail from SM? (He is the 3 one)

 

 

As many arguments in this thread has shown multiple times, it would be for the best if we don't use promotion content released by the company. Especially if it's obvious edited. Let's wait for more candid photos.

[Rei sakuma]

57 minutes ago, Akumu said:

She always had that part of the eyelid where it extents out a bit at the end.

But it definitely looks like her inner corners have been scooped out. Her tearducts are quite exposed now. 

Sihyeon looks different predebut. It seems like she had done something to her nose and eyes.

Predebut:

Now:

I'm not sure if she had her nose shaved down and an implant added or if she just had a tip reduction. Either way it doesn't look that bad but I can't help noticing that it's kinda in the same reign as the enhypen boys'. Nice but no individuality. Her round nose fits her better. What do ya'll think??

Idk if this makes sense but I've noticed that the trend nowadays is to have a nose where the tip and the bridge are the same width? I find it kinda strange since I thought noses were supposed to gradually get wider. Sihyeon's nose would look a lot more convincing if her nostrils/alar area where left where it originally was. 

[Rei sakuma]

5 hours ago, erty said:

hi! big time lurker here, i finally decided to write in this topic. is hueningkai natural? the user that makes instagram posts about kpop plastic surgery said that his nose is the result of a failed rhinoplasty, but i highly doubt it since his two sisters seem to have the same nose as him. 

I do believe that huening (along with soobin) is the most natural looking idol in the 4th gen. I don't personally think that he had a nose job, but he definitely dabbled with filler. He has a distinct wasian nose with 2 breaks in it but in some pictures I've found his nose is completely straight. 

I also think there was a user a few pages ago that talked about Kai's eyes. I can't find the post but if someone can, please quote me.

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Compared to:

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^These are from their debut.

Actually, the more I look at him I'm convinced that he must've not have it dine frequently. Through looking at promo pics, it's clear that he has his original nose most of the time. I'm actually happy that he seems to like his bumpy nose. Most idols would've had it removed.

Also, I've notice that many wasians with nose bumps don't remove them. I wonder if it's a decision by the company to make them stand out?

Edited October 28, 2021 by Rei sakuma

[Rei sakuma]

Are there any examples of K-pop idols having a endoscopic/temporal/just fillers brow lift? I know it's very popular with western celebs and models but I don't think it's talked about a lot here. Lifting an eyebrow can also allow for more eyelid space=larger eyes. I wonder why it's not as popular? Is it a cultural thing or a difference between ethnicities? 

[Rei sakuma]

On 10/29/2021 at 9:14 PM, ahhhhhgsgsgdstn said:

I can't find the post but I remember someone on here a while ago suspected he had the tip of his nose slightly refined. Very subtle though, he's mostly natural

Anything on suengkwan too? I remember someone saying double eyelid refinement but I'm not too convinced (yet).

[Rei sakuma]

41 minutes ago, powpow7u said:

Also did Niki get lip fillers bc...

The yeonjun blueprint

In all honesty, lip filler isn't a big deal but it makes me wonder what Hybe has in plan for him later. If they are willing to dish him some fillers now, what are they gonna change next? I'm begging for it to not be his nose but I have a feeling it might be. His nose is small but a bit flat compared to the other members.

[Rei sakuma]

52 minutes ago, letsgaur said:

okay im gonna sound crazy, but literally after watching music bank, i can't help but notice how different wonyoung looks. does anyone have an idea of what she changed on her face? i made comparison photos (bc im crazy lmfao), but pls lmk what yall think... i love her new look, but i was so shocked when i watched music bank and was like ??? is this HER?! definitely a different vibe from her izone days. 

sorry the photos are so big...

It seems like she gained some weight + had a chin shave/chin wing implant (not sure if she had one tho, but her chin deff looks less pointy).

[Rei sakuma]

The phrases "forehead implant" always makes me laugh. it's just seems so pointless just get some bangs or smth.

[Rei sakuma]

Ok so I was off OH for a few days to focus on other things but yesterday I saw something that needs to be mentioned. 

Does anyone know who this person is from Theboyz? If you do, please send my condolences to him. 

He appears around the 0:39 minute mark of their MAVERICK mv

since they're not talked about much on this thread, I assume theboyz must be somewhat "normal" looking. really surprised that they gave us a great zoomed in shot of his botched nose. Are they trying to flex? 

Also I'm shocked at how much the nose changes the whole face. Same with Winter who the thread was discussing earlier, I'm pretty sure this unidentified member of theboyz didn't have much done except the nose. It just makes them look so overdone.

[Rei sakuma]

You don't have to be insecure or even self hating to get plastic surgery. And all though it is true that cosmetic surgery is proven to increase self-esteem, confidence, and feelings of self-worth, it doesn't mean that you have to have low self esteem before. And also, I find that self-love is much more complex than just if you get plastic surgery = no self love/cannot talk about self love. Different people also have different definitions of self love and to say that a person who got plastic surgery does not love themselves is just ridiculous. 

[Rei sakuma]

 "LOVE YOURSELF. People who love themselves also love their eyes, lips and nose. Then why do they have plastic surgery on their faces?" @Angel_asian

^ You literally implied that people who get plastic surgery don't love themselves here. Don't indirectly tell me that I was wrong when i was simply replying to what you said. The point of my previous post was to explain that different people have different definitions of self love and it seems like yours, simply said, is very black and white. I don't really understand your perspective tbh. It seems really surface level. Have you every loved something yet was still unsatisfied with it? 

This is not a comment on the whole BTS argument but it's obvious to everyone that it's just a PR stunt. Celebrities do it all the time and I agree with what @peach0827said. Do I think that it's a cheap marketing strategy? Yes, absolutely. But why are you so pressed on holding bts to a standard everyone knows they didn't come up with. Their popularity definitely comes with a sense of social responsibility but, as I said, different people have different definitions of self love. By looking at this past interaction, we can already see that many ppl in this thread have different definitions of self love. My point was that who are you to say that your definition is correct? And that bts shouldn't be talking about self love if they had plastic surgery? Also, I find that silence of plastic surgery does not mean denial. I don't recall bts every being asked about the work they had done. It's a tactic every celebrity uses and if they had denied it, then I would have no problems with your post.  

Let's all stop the analysis into bts's relationship. We only know them from what they post online and they don't necessarily have to love themselves to tell their fans to love themselves. 

[Rei sakuma]

@Angel_asian I did not read your essay length response but let's just agree to disagree on the whole self love thing. We're missing the point of this thread.

[Rei sakuma]

Hi! Does anyone have any photographic proof of TXT's kai ever having nose fillers? Thank you in advance cause I feel like hes one of the most natural 4th gen idols.

[Rei sakuma]

I haven't been on this thread in a while but can someone please fill me in on Nmixx's plastic surgery? I tried looking but the search bar is tripping me out. They all have very smooth ski-slope noses. It suits them honestly but it does look abit plasticky.