Official Plastic Surgery Thread

[minques]

Seohyun's eyes are natural.

 

 

Edited September 23, 2013 by risesandtides

[JessicaRabbit]

i was addressing both since i've seen both going around.

 

let's say it's botox, that kind of swelling sticks to a the part of the face that was injected. but when seohyun's face swells, she swells everywhere, including her double chin. it's bloat.

 

and if it were botox, her skin should be tightening and clearing up, not getting wearier and more agitated like it has been.

 

if they were fat injections, that doesn't explain when her cheeks mysteriously lose the fat some days. it should be there to stay then. i don't even understand why she would bother with fat injections when she hates her face looking bigger?

 

to be honest it looks more like the doing of birth control than anything.

 

I always assumed it was because of her period. When I have mine, my face [and stomach whenever I eat] gets really bloated and I break out like I'm getting paid too. Even Sunny has days when her skin looks terrible and acne ridden and days when it looks fine. Also heard that eating after certain hours, long plane rides, too much sodium and for some people, just waking up in the morning can result in a bloated face.

 

And Birth control does that to your face?! Seriously? 

Edited September 23, 2013 by JessicaRabbit123

[____shawnee]

I always assumed it was because of her period. When I have mine, my face [and stomach whenever I eat] gets really bloated and I break out like I'm getting paid too. Even Sunny has days when her skin looks terrible and acne ridden and days when it looks fine. Also heard that eating after certain hours, long plane rides, too much sodium and for some people, just waking up in the morning can result in a bloated face.

 

And Birth control does that to your face?! Seriously? 

 

I actually meant to bring up the period lmao my friend always gets bloated when she's on her period she complains about it all the time. Her face doesn't bloat up but the rest of her body does, but face bloating does happen.

 

And yeah she also told me that birth control can cause you to bloat or gain weight, because you get side effects similar to pregnancy.

[minques]

birth control can make a mess of your hormones. random swelling, bloating, breaking out, weight gain, especially hips and chest (seohyun does seem bustier this year out of nowhere). if that's compounded on top regular period drama and a volatile sleeping/eating schedule, it kind of looks exactly like what's been going on with seohyun.

Edited September 23, 2013 by risesandtides

[junglove]

Her skin is still kinda loose tho, loose because of the constant fluctuation of weight. I'd look for photos but I've spent enough time on Sooyoung, maybe later. But Seohyun's face bloats all the time, it's happened since debut and it happens now. Human bodies are weird, we don't look completely the same every single day. I think we assume plastic surgery and comestic procedures at the slightest notice of change way too much, when it really could just be nature taking it's course. However, she probably got her eyes done before debut.

 

I got a comment about Sooyoung in a few.

she didn't have anything done I looked at her pre-debut pictures....I just think she might got some fillers or injections but that's about it.

I think that her face bloats too and that's so unfortunate cuz she is very pretty. 

[JessicaRabbit]

I actually meant to bring up the period lmao my friend always gets bloated when she's on her period she complains about it all the time. Her face doesn't bloat up but the rest of her body does, but face bloating does happen.

 

And yeah she also told me that birth control can cause you to bloat or gain weight, because you get side effects similar to pregnancy.

 

birth control can make a mess of your hormones. random swelling, bloating, breaking out, weight gain, especially hips and chest (seohyun does seem bustier this year out of nowhere). if that's compounded on top regular period drama and a volatile sleeping/eating schedule, it kind of looks exactly like what's been going on with seohyun.

 

I assume she's taking it to mellow out her terrible cramping + minimize bleeding since SNSD wears a lot of shorts and skinny jeans and are always dancing and about. But the side-effects are kicking her ass. [Perhaps she's not the only one taking it?] 

[blank_stare]

Warning! Some very graphic stuff here. Since we're all mature here I decided to post this. (I love talking about this because I know something about how anatomy and physiology of our body works.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1z84WECoec

 

 

 

 

 

Now with Seohyun, 

 

 

 

In the 2013, Seohyun's eyelids became more prominent thru blepharoplasty. You can still get double eyelid surgery even if you already have one to achieve a more prominent double eyelid. I'm not saying she god blepharoplasty but she could have or it's because of botox. There is no way that your face gets bloated and not your whole body. This happens a lot to Hollywood stars too, check out there photos. SM should stop giving the girls botox. On the long run they're faces is gonna sag and it wont look good once they stop. 

 

Some examples: 

 

 

 

 

 

But we have to know if they really are real photos (unphotoshopped ones) or fakes one. Because some people photoshops them to prove their point.

 

 

Fake

 

Real

 

We know Gackt-san Sama got plastic surgery. I don't need to post pictures. His present pictures are giving me nightmares. 

Edited September 24, 2013 by blank_stare

[♥SNS-Shinomiya♥]

Warning! Some very graphic stuff here. Since we're all mature here I decided to post this. (I love talking about this because I know something about how anatomy and physiology of our body works.)

 

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1z84WECoec

 

 

 

Now with Seohyun, 

 

 

 

In the 2013, Seohyun's eyelids became more prominent thru blepharoplasty. You can still get double eyelid surgery even if you already have one to achieve a more prominent double eyelid. I'm not saying she god blepharoplasty but she could have or it's because of botox. There is no way that your face gets bloated and not your whole body. This happens a lot to Hollywood stars too, check out there photos. SM should stop giving the girls botox. On the long run they're faces is gonna sag and it wont look good once they stop. 

 

Some examples: 

 

 

 

 

 

But we have to ask ourselves if they really are real photos or fakes one. 

 

 

Fake

 

Real

  you think that is Sooyoung problem when her face get bloated and then slim at other times

[JessicaRabbit]

Warning! Some very graphic stuff here. Since we're all mature here I decided to post this. (I love talking about this because I know something about how anatomy and physiology of our body works.)

 

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1z84WECoec

 

 

 

Now with Seohyun, 

 

 

 

In the 2013, Seohyun's eyelids became more prominent thru blepharoplasty. You can still get double eyelid surgery even if you already have one to achieve a more prominent double eyelid. I'm not saying she god blepharoplasty but she could have or it's because of botox. There is no way that your face gets bloated and not your whole body. This happens a lot to Hollywood stars too, check out there photos. SM should stop giving the girls botox. On the long run they're faces is gonna sag and it wont look good once they stop. 

 

Some examples: 

 

 

 

 

 

But we have to ask ourselves if they really are real photos or fakes one. 

 

 

Fake

 

Real

 

Isn't Seohyun way too young to be getting botox? She debuted at 16. I thought teenagers didn't stop maturing [physically] until like 21 and she just turned 22 this summer. If she HAS been getting injections, what for? She's too young to have saggy skin or anything that would require the need for botox + the side effects could be tremendously terrible for anyone who gets such things at a young age. 

 

Wish there were recent photos of SNSD without makeup to really compare and see. The eyes could be a work of eyeliner. Makeup is fucking magic... 

[blank_stare]

Just so you know botox isn't a plastic surgery technique. It's invasive (because anything that breaks into the skin is invasive) but not as invasive as for instance having a rhinoplasty.

 

 

Isn't Seohyun way too young to be getting botox? She debuted at 16. I thought teenagers didn't stop maturing [physically] until like 21 and she just turned 22 this summer. If she HAS been getting injections, what for? She's too young to have saggy skin or anything that would require the need for botox + the side effects could be tremendously terrible for anyone who gets such things at a young age. 

 

Wish there were recent photos of SNSD without makeup to really compare and see. The eyes could be a work of eyeliner. Makeup is fucking magic... 

 

Actually there is no law that is stopping teenagers from getting botox. Any age can get them. I even heard a mother giving a botox to her child. Though doctors are advice against giving it to children that don't have facial or muscle spasciticy. But if we go by the actual rules of FDA it should be from 18 or older.  And maturity usually ends in 18-20; 21 tops for females.

 

How botox works is by stopping the nerve impulses in the face by not giving any impulses to the nerve endings, thus not making some facial expression. It usually last about 3-6 months. Side effects are headaches, nausea, heartburn, difficulty in breathing, swallowing, or speaking, muscle weakness, drooping and dryness of the eyes. 

Edited September 24, 2013 by blank_stare

[♥SNS-Shinomiya♥]

Another funny SNSD Occurance..look at this

  her right eye and her crease...straight up glue....but then her left eye same situation........then what is this no glue...can anyone help me out on this one

[JessicaRabbit]

Another funny SNSD Occurance..look at this

  her right eye and her crease...straight up glue....but then her left eye same situation........then what is this no glue...can anyone help me out on this one

 

Uhhh....Tape? BEG Gain's Eyeliner kit?

[♥SNS-Shinomiya♥]

Uhhh....Tape? BEG Gain's Eyeliner kit?

 for the last gif?....what is this eyeliner kit

[____shawnee]

Now with Seohyun, 

 

 

 

In the 2013, Seohyun's eyelids became more prominent thru blepharoplasty. You can still get double eyelid surgery even if you already have one to achieve a more prominent double eyelid. I'm not saying she god blepharoplasty but she could have or it's because of botox. There is no way that your face gets bloated and not your whole body. This happens a lot to Hollywood stars too, check out there photos. SM should stop giving the girls botox. On the long run they're faces is gonna sag and it wont look good once they stop. 

 

 

You can only bloat in your face just like you can only bloat in your stomach. It's caused by a lot of different things, birth control, antibiotics, or water retention. Also, it's possible that she in fact does bloat in other areas of her body yet we can't tell. Another thing is that botox is only injected a few times year, while Seohyun's face swells and slims very very often. It is possible the girls are getting botox, but I don't think that's necessarily the cause of Seohyun's face swelling. Botox can also be used to round out your jawline a bit, so that may be one reason to get it, if the girls are getting it. I don't know about the blephantanosplasty thing, that's a good guess. I don't know what to make of this photo, whether it confirms any eye surgery or not.

 

[♥SNS-Shinomiya♥]

You can only bloat in your face just like you can only bloat in your stomach. It's caused by a lot of different things, birth control, antibiotics, or water retention. Also, it's possible that she in fact does bloat in other areas of her body yet we can't tell. Another thing is that botox is only injected a few times year, while Seohyun's face swells and slims very very often. It is possible the girls are getting botox, but I don't think that's necessarily the cause of Seohyun's face swelling. Botox can also be used to round out your jawline a bit, so that may be one reason to get it, if the girls are getting it. I don't know about the blephantanosplasty thing, that's a good guess. I don't know what to make of this photo, whether it confirms any eye surgery or not.

 

   looks like makeup

[blank_stare]

You can only bloat in your face just like you can only bloat in your stomach. It's caused by a lot of different things, birth control, antibiotics, or water retention. Also, it's possible that she in fact does bloat in other areas of her body yet we can't tell. Another thing is that botox is only injected a few times year, while Seohyun's face swells and slims very very often. It is possible the girls are getting botox, but I don't think that's necessarily the cause of Seohyun's face swelling. Botox can also be used to round out your jawline a bit, so that may be one reason to get it, if the girls are getting it. I don't know about the blephantanosplasty thing, that's a good guess. I don't know what to make of this photo, whether it confirms any eye surgery or not.

 

 

What year is this and is this a recent picture?

 

Yes it's true that you can bloat (or Edema in the medical field) in one area, but this signifies that your body is trying to tell you that something is going on and needs some attention. Bloating could mean infection, water retention, antibiotics, and sometimes BCPs, but the thing with BCPs is when your taking them you bloat overall not just one area and gain weight. 

 

I'm sure Seohyun haven't gotten any Major plastic surgery but if she didn't get botox like some suggested then it's double eyelid surgery or blepharoplasty surgery because of how her eye is unnatural in the third picture but natural on the second. 

 

 

Also if she didn't get botox or any plastic surgery on her face, the bloating could be an infection in/on her other areas of the face cause by a lesion, acne or acne. A skinny person can't have bloated face unless there's something seriously wrong with her. If a person is skinny it would show on her face too; hollow cheekbones, sunken eyes, not puffy eyes, or chubby cheeks. And by chance she has a lymph node disease then not only her face would be bloated but her fingers, hands, and legs would be bloated also.

 

Out of all the SNSD girls, I like Tiffany's and Taeyeon's face. They both look natural but I'm sure they got something done. 

 

 

Now for Japanese Celebrity: Ayumi Hamasaki.

 

 

 

Before pictures

 

Now:

She got blepharoplasty, Rhinoplasty 2x, chin implants and botox, and maybe jaw shaving. (Not sure about jaw shaving, because it's not popular back then. Botox makes more sense because of the technology back then, and botox makes your jaw slim by relaxing your muscles thus making it longer.)

 

She got double eyelid surgery to fix her eye (they're crooked) and to enlarge it even more. Then nosejob twice. Not sure with the chin implants or jaw shaving but I'm sure about the botox. Most of Ayumi's pictures such as those officials stuffs like album, covers, etc are heavily photoshopped. Even now though her face shape looks like its still the same. 

 

 

The only way to know for sure and have a really good proof that they did or didn't get surgery is to get an X-ray of their skull. But even some companies would use fake Xray results just to show their products are real.

Edited September 24, 2013 by blank_stare

[minques]

Seohyun's didn't do anything to her eyes but I do think she wears eyelid tape lately though, which is why they've been looking more significant on occasion. The reason it can't be surgery is because there's occasions her fold goes back to normal.

 

This is her natural fold, for reference. 2002, 2007, 2009. She's always had a deep crease:

 

 

 

 

 

Once again, recent pics in consecutive order:

 

With tape, a higher fold:

 

 

Then afterwards without (her lower natural fold):

 

 

 

 

 

Then again, a higher fold. Except this time it's so obvious it's tape just from the weird shape.

 

 

 

But without makeup or tape, fold is back to normal:

 

 

 

She didn't get her eyes done.

Edited September 26, 2013 by thepiemaker

[♥SNS-Shinomiya♥]

Seohyun's didn't do anything to her eyes but I do think she wears eyelid tape lately though, which is why they've been looking more significant on occasion. The reason it can't be surgery is because there's occasions her fold goes back to normal.

 

This is her natural fold, for reference. She's always had a deep crease:

 

 

 

 

Once again, recent pics in consecutive order:

 

With tape, a higher fold:

 

 

Then afterwards without (her lower natural fold):

 

 

 

 

 

Then again, a higher fold. Except this time it's so obvious it's tape just from the weird shape.

 

 

 

But without makeup or tape, fold is back to normal:

 

 

 

She didn't get her eyes done.

   you think its makeup throws people off? But I did notice that lots of idols (SNSD) look different when they are truly not wearing makeup.

[minques]

   you think its makeup throws people off? But I did notice that lots of idols (SNSD) look different when they are truly not wearing makeup.

 

Well-done makeup can change your face so easily and so drastically I'm actually sure half of eye surgery accusations can just be covered by that alone. Eyelid tape is the easiest thing in the world to find and apply.

 

Seriously, just google it.

 

Prime example is After School's Nana. She naturally has monolids, but she's always going back and forth between those and double eyelids, only from makeup and tape/glue alone. Eyeshadow, liner, and highlighting can further overhaul the look.

 

Even Kim Yuna who is famed for her single eyelids can get double eyelids through makeup and tape:

 

Edited September 24, 2013 by risesandtides

[blank_stare]

   you think its makeup throws people off? But I did notice that lots of idols (SNSD) look different when they are truly not wearing makeup.

 

Sometimes it can be makeup, sometimes it could be glue...

 

 

Seohyun's didn't do anything to her eyes but I do think she wears eyelid tape lately though, which is why they've been looking more significant on occasion. The reason it can't be surgery is because there's occasions her fold goes back to normal.

 

This is her natural fold, for reference. 2002, 2007, 2009. She's always had a deep crease:

 

 

 

 

 

Once again, recent pics in consecutive order:

 

With tape, a higher fold:

 

 

Then afterwards without (her lower natural fold):

 

 

 

 

 

Then again, a higher fold. Except this time it's so obvious it's tape just from the weird shape.

 

 

 

But without makeup or tape, fold is back to normal:

 

 

 

She didn't get her eyes done.

 Do you have more pictures of her with her eyelids closed from the same events? Even with tapered eyelids there would be residuals and signs of having her eyes glued/tapered.

 

 

Like this video^

[minques]

I could dig for closed eyed pictures of the same events if I had nothing better to do, but one, the top makeup artists in the world are not going to leave residuals, and two, I think the point I made is pretty clear. You don't go back and forth from having a high to low to high crease over and over all year like Seohyun's case if there was a surgical procedure involved. They would just stay one way.  

 

In any case, 2002 vs. 2013, same face. 

 

Edited September 24, 2013 by risesandtides

[blank_stare]

I could dig for closed eyed pictures of the same events if I had nothing better to do, but one, the top makeup artists in the world are not going to leave residuals, and two, I think the point I made is pretty clear. You don't go back and forth from having a high to low to high crease over and over all year like Seohyun's case if there was a surgical procedure involved. They would just stay one way.  

 

In any case, 2002 vs. 2013, same face. 

 

 

There will always be a sign or residual when your using glue to tape your eyelids. Especially when using makeup.

[♥SNS-Shinomiya♥]

I could dig for closed eyed pictures of the same events if I had nothing better to do, but one, the top makeup artists in the world are not going to leave residuals, and two, I think the point I made is pretty clear. You don't go back and forth from having a high to low to high crease over and over all year like Seohyun's case if there was a surgical procedure involved. They would just stay one way.  

 

In any case, 2002 vs. 2013, same face. 

 

    is there a difference in the noses or am i seeing things

[junglove]

can we just move on and talk about someone else? 

 

I thought Suho was natural, but  supposedly he had something done to the bridge of his nose.

What do you guys think natural or not natural?

 

 

 

 

Edited September 24, 2013 by junglove

[JessicaRabbit]

 for the last gif?....what is this eyeliner kit

 

Oh lol, the eyeliner kit isn't real, it's just a term I use and I always say Gain's name cause she's is known for her heavy use of eye makeup and it makes a drastic change in her appearance. 

 

Anytime I say "Someone's using Gain's Eyeliner kit" I'm basically saying that a person didn't [necessarily] have surgery done, their just using a lot of makeup on to make it seem as if they have double eyelids, high cheekbones, big eyes and ect. Even some of these idols abs aren't real! their drawn on!

 

​*E.G Hyosung [secret], CL [2NE1] & Nana [After School] all borrow Gain's Eyeliner kit.

 

Edited September 24, 2013 by JessicaRabbit123