Official Plastic Surgery Thread

[igotaboyonmychin]

15 hours ago, doongie said:

Speaking of Kingdom, anything on SK/Z Lee Kn0w? He's my bias and I've noticed he's been looking different lately .

I think he's putting on weight but he's using face and lip fillers too. He looks less cat like now.

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He used to have a thinner bottom lip:

 

Lip fillers for sure. Other than that, I don't see much of a difference but I don't keep up with SKZ, so I might be missing something from the first glance.

[KentasGlittery EyeMakeup]

How do Korean men get such good lip fillers? Half of the time I don't even notice because it looks so natural. Meanwhile where I live people love getting exaggerated and obvious looking lip fillers to show off the money they invested in their face.

[lighterxx]

4 minutes ago, KentasGlittery EyeMakeup said:

How do Korean men get such good lip fillers? Half of the time I don't even notice because it looks so natural. Meanwhile where I live people love getting exaggerated and obvious looking lip fillers to show off the money they invested in their face.

doctor and beauty standards if you have thin lips doctor is not gonna insist on filling them to fullest, people usually themselves want the fullest look

[KentasGlittery EyeMakeup]

Just now, lighterxx said:

doctor and beauty standards if you have thin lips doctor is not gonna insist on filling them to fullest, people usually themselves want the fullest look

Yup it's true. In the Balkans the PS standard is to get the obvious looking surgeries and fillers so people would know you got them, they're like a status and wealth symbol. There are still people who get good surgeries (usually the actually rich people do that, while the ones that want to look rich get the obvious one) but so many people get really obvious fillers and ski slope noses and so on and show them off. Don't even get me started on implants.

https://www.instagram.com/pravo_vip_lice/?hl=hr

I like looking at this account as a warning to myself if I ever want to get fillers or anything like that. All of them are pretty famous Serbian celebrities and they showcase just how much the beauty standard is twisted there. I previously mentioned that things are luckily way less severe among Croatian celebrities and there's maybe a few celebrities who look exaggerated while everyone else looks natural and have successful work done, but young girls are striving to look like Serbian celebrities more and more because that music is very popular here and it's not odd to see copy+paste faces in trendy cafes and wherever fashion streetstyle photographers operate.

[lighterxx]

23 minutes ago, KentasGlittery EyeMakeup said:

Yup it's true. In the Balkans the PS standard is to get the obvious looking surgeries and fillers so people would know you got them, they're like a status and wealth symbol. There are still people who get good surgeries (usually the actually rich people do that, while the ones that want to look rich get the obvious one) but so many people get really obvious fillers and ski slope noses and so on and show them off. Don't even get me started on implants.

https://www.instagram.com/pravo_vip_lice/?hl=hr

I like looking at this account as a warning to myself if I ever want to get fillers or anything like that. All of them are pretty famous Serbian celebrities and they showcase just how much the beauty standard is twisted there. I previously mentioned that things are luckily way less severe among Croatian celebrities and there's maybe a few celebrities who look exaggerated while everyone else looks natural and have successful work done, but young girls are striving to look like Serbian celebrities more and more because that music is very popular here and it's not odd to see copy+paste faces in trendy cafes and wherever fashion streetstyle photographers operate.

it is especially weird to me Balkans have that type of fashion because i have been in countries in Balkan multiple times, almost everyone was drop dead gorgeous in a natural way, especially Serbia if i had balls i was about to hit on passport checker

[KentasGlittery EyeMakeup]

Just now, lighterxx said:

it is especially weird to me Balkans have that type of fashion because i have been in countries in Balkan multiple times, almost everyone was drop dead gorgeous in a natural way, especially Serbia if i had balls i was about to hit on passport checker

We have naturally beautiful women but at every corner and it's true, but the recent trends have been so weird to me because that fake aesthetic has become such a standard for some. Not everyone, maybe not even the majority, but it's growing and I hate seeing it, especially in young people.

[lighterxx]

6 minutes ago, KentasGlittery EyeMakeup said:

We have naturally beautiful women but at every corner and it's true, but the recent trends have been so weird to me because that fake aesthetic has become such a standard for some. Not everyone, maybe not even the majority, but it's growing and I hate seeing it, especially in young people.

i think it will pass with time, like every ps trend, but current people will regret in future i guess, which is honestly sad for me 

[KentasGlittery EyeMakeup]

4 minutes ago, lighterxx said:

i think it will pass with time, like every ps trend, but current people will regret in future i guess, which is honestly sad for me 

Silicone in lips was a huge trend in the 90s and 80s and then fillers started becoming more and more known to the world and the women who got the silicone started regretting it because unfortunately that thing starts looking worse and worse by the time and it mutates and grows and you can't really remove it because it merges with your body so a lot of them had to have reconstructive surgeries which were really expensive and in some cases those are impossible to do because the situation is severe. Almost no one gets silicone nowadays but I have an acquaintance who pretty obviously has gotten them in her lips and her lips already look dreadful and it's only been around five years.

[lighterxx]

19 minutes ago, KentasGlittery EyeMakeup said:

Silicone in lips was a huge trend in the 90s and 80s and then fillers started becoming more and more known to the world and the women who got the silicone started regretting it because unfortunately that thing starts looking worse and worse by the time and it mutates and grows and you can't really remove it because it merges with your body so a lot of them had to have reconstructive surgeries which were really expensive and in some cases those are impossible to do because the situation is severe. Almost no one gets silicone nowadays but I have an acquaintance who pretty obviously has gotten them in her lips and her lips already look dreadful and it's only been around five years.

From plus side, fillers can be dissolved, there is even special products doctors use to do that, it just, your skin will sag after it gets emptied out of fillers after like years, thats why i dont understand idols going heavy on fillers, it fills their skin, causing it to get more strecthed out, then after fillers go, they need to get more fillers as skin already sagged and same amount will not be enough to get the desired effect. I dont see people with alot of procedures around me, usually nose, rather than lips, so i hope they can determine what to get fillers for and what to not. I remember watching this?

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for example, while fillers are obvious its not too uncomfortable level, to get that level you need to be really careful, which most people hell doctors are not, fillers can look good, there are alot of instances where it looks good, people just go too extreme with it and doctors wont stop them. Perk in general is filler can dissolve, easily too, i hope this will help people not regret too much. Otherwise really thin nose fashion, thats not it i hope people stop with it honestly, no hate to ps ofc, but it is extremely uncomfortable of a look which some of the people in instagram account you shared have. 

 

[Lolly21]

3 hours ago, Rei sakuma said:

From what I know, changes in facial fat usually happens gradually if they are dieting/exercising. Of course, If he went from a round face to a more sculpted on in a span of a few weeks, then it would be safe to assume he had something done. Especially before a comeback. However, if we compare his photos in 2016 to now, his whole face does look overall slimmer and he does seem to have lost a bit of weight. So honestly, it could also be up to his exercise regime. 

From what I've noticed, male visuals usually get so much more popular when they lose their face fat (eunwoo, jaehyun, junho). kinda to a point where they look "hollow". I really hope this would change, I love chubby cheeks.

Well, he had a more sculpted face after 3 months I think, for ASTRO's 2nd comeback. So I don't know if it could be a diet or a cosmetic procedure...

[Lolly21]

3 hours ago, lighterxx said:

He did something to his jaw line tbh like you said, but alot later I remember us discussing but couldn't find what. I am not talking about his weight btw, his jawline used to jut out a bit, then bam it smoothed out

I think it was this pic we discussed. He probably did something not permanent like Botox and fillers to give a stronger vline definition at that time. I checked his recent pics and he seems to focus only on fillers now. 

About weight, tbh maybe he can lose that much weight? Is old lose weight in very harmful styles mind you, so they can find a fast one

Hmm yes. His face looks a bit longer on that last photo but then sometimes he looks like the 2nd photo from left to right in the last row... It may be fillers or any other non-invasive cosmetic procedure I think.

[lighterxx]

19 minutes ago, Lolly21 said:

Hmm yes. His face looks a bit longer on that last photo but then sometimes he looks like the 2nd photo from left to right in the last row... It may be fillers or any other non-invasive cosmetic procedure I think.

yeah he switches between last row last two photos frequently, i think its botox, while botox is fading, while botox is new, he goes between those quite frequently 

[Rei sakuma]

one of the reasons I've found people with jaw shaves uncanny is because their necks now look weird. There's this male idol who had a jaw shave and the most apparent sign is that his neck is wider than his jaw from the front angle (i think you know who I'm talking about). I always found this really weird.  

you can't really get surgery to make your neck thinner right? damn, i feel sorry for idols who get unnecessary jaw shaves. their proportions are all messed up now.

[igotaboyonmychin]

You know how delusional fans love to use childhood pictures as a proof that their favorite idol is surgery-free? I mean, childhood photos tend to look convincing because the noses are smaller, the jaws are covered with baby fat, and quality is just the worst so you can't see anything. 

However, I like these pictures of The Boyz' Younghoon that they put in one of the group's albums because you can clearly see that he was born with a completely different pair of eyes and a whole other nose lol. They didn't even try to conceal anything.

[Lolly21]

3 hours ago, Rei sakuma said:

one of the reasons I've found people with jaw shaves uncanny is because their necks now look weird. There's this male idol who had a jaw shave and the most apparent sign is that his neck is wider than his jaw from the front angle (i think you know who I'm talking about). I always found this really weird.  

you can't really get surgery to make your neck thinner right? damn, i feel sorry for idols who get unnecessary jaw shaves. their proportions are all messed up now.

Who are you referring to? Please say the name lol

[Lolly21]

4 hours ago, lighterxx said:

yeah he switches between last row last two photos frequently, i think its botox, while botox is fading, while botox is new, he goes between those quite frequently 

Yes. I'm actually surprised but happy that he seems to not get anything invasive, because we all know that even ticking all the beauty standards doesn't exempt you from going bat-sh*t crazy with plastic surgery and looking uncanny. 

 

 

[Rei sakuma]

19 minutes ago, Lolly21 said:

Who are you referring to? Please say the name lol

A side by side of the before and after.

Can't stop thinking about this photo. Even with his chin extended out, his jaw looks connected to his neck. 

[lighterxx]

34 minutes ago, Lolly21 said:

Yes. I'm actually surprised but happy that he seems to not get anything invasive, because we all know that even ticking all the beauty standards doesn't exempt you from going bat-sh*t crazy with plastic surgery and looking uncanny. 

 

 

Might be company tbh, I saw many idols get ton of ps the second they leave their company, I think companies try to stop idols from unnecessary procedures (aka ones company doesn't suggest) I suspected this most with Pristin I think 

[jaemints]

Why does Renjun look different this comeback? 

especially here: 

 

[SepiaSkies]

2 hours ago, Sandarella said:

Why does Renjun look different this comeback? 

especially here: 

 

I just talked about Renjun a couple of pages ago, but I forgot to mention this one thing. His face shape has been fluctuating quite a bit over the past few months. It was a very abrupt change that started around From Home promotions, I remember seeing him at his radio show looking the way he usually does and then like five days later his face was visibly more oval and smoothed out from the front. Given how abrupt the change was and how it keeps on going back and forth I'd say it's probably botox. I'm not too well versed in cosmetic procedures though, so it might be something else that causes this. I sometimes feel like it changes by the week lol.

During From Home MV filiming:

And then during one of the performances:

 

These are the best gifs I can find right now. And yeah, it just kinda keeps fluctuating since October. He's also gained some weight, so he looks overall fuller in the face. I personally don't think he looks particularly different in their recent teasers, though. Maybe it's the styling that's throwing you off?

[Metrico]

On 5/3/2021 at 2:04 PM, Hexox said:

The length of her philtrum is too long and ruins the overall harmony of her face. That's why you should avoid unnecessary nose jobs at all cost, her newer nose is too tiny for her face ://

Before:

After her second nose job:

The difference is very clear to me. Such a shame ! Apink's surgeons are awful :// her face lost her uniqueness and natural feeling

The philtrum symmetry thing is real when that symmetry is off or that area is extra long we look at faces like this and our brains for a hot sec literally can't immediately register them as human (obviously we know she is ofc) so we go "hmm something's wrong with her face". I saw this discussed regarding Kim K in a video from Lorry Hill (Kim got her nose/ lips subsequently fixed after creating too much space via a prior nosejob at one point) and  think I've read about this issue when reading about 3D rigging and the whole uncanny valley issue in videogame/3D animation design too. Such a shame!

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[Lolly21]

6 hours ago, lighterxx said:

Might be company tbh, I saw many idols get ton of ps the second they leave their company, I think companies try to stop idols from unnecessary procedures (aka ones company doesn't suggest) I suspected this most with Pristin I think 

Oh, I was not aware of that. Interesting to know, thanks. Though I'm a bit curious if those idols that leave their companies pay those surgeries themselves or how. What do you think?

[lighterxx]

3 minutes ago, Lolly21 said:

Oh, I was not aware of that. Interesting to know, thanks. Though I'm a bit curious if those idols that leave their companies pay those surgeries themselves or how. What do you think?

Definitely pay themselves. If it helps I remember a blind item about Bom, where her company banned ps for her, but she kept escaping, so I assume she pays for that herself. In Korea ps is not too expensive tbh, most idols can easily pay for it °^°

[minasuga]

On 5/4/2021 at 10:09 PM, Lolly21 said:

I started following ASTRO a few months ago (thank you Youtube algorithm) and they must be one of the groups that don't look the same at all, which is odd. They look pretty distinct, which is not the norm. But is refreshing and so easy on my eyes!

And on that topic, is there something that Cha Eunwoo did to his teeth or face besides fillers or maintenance? When he debuted his cheeks were so round, full and chubby but he wasn't like that pre-debut (and there is a lot of pre-debut content from ASTRO). For their 2nd comeback with Breathless in 2016 his face looked more chiseled... What happened?

Back in 2016 (around March)

 

 

 

But then here's Eunwoo on the same year, around June for ASTRO's 2nd comeback:

 

He never looked overweight or anything like that to me. Did he get buccal fat removal? Can you lose that much fat in your face just by losing weight in like 3 months? I don't think idols loose THAT much weight with them already being thin. Was it another non-invasive procedure? Is it botox? Am I tripping? LOL. 

But his teeth do look different. Could they be veneers? I really don't know anything about veneers but it looks like a similar procedure. His teeth look a bit longer but still real and we are able to see more of his smile. This did wonders for that "out of the world" look that he's know for. 

This is from 2017. For me, his best look/era so far. 

2018:

 

2019:

2020:

He seemed to get a bit more muscular on this year but I think it's obvious that he gets fillers, which could add to the shape of his face.

2021:

All in all, I think he doesn't look drastically different. 

What do you guys think?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Off-topic. But Eunwoo is looking very sexy in those last pictures. GAWD DAM!

 

[UrmiUndone]

8 hours ago, lighterxx said:

Definitely pay themselves. If it helps I remember a blind item about Bom, where her company banned ps for her, but she kept escaping, so I assume she pays for that herself. In Korea ps is not too expensive tbh, most idols can easily pay for it °^°

I hope Jeongyeon doesn't get addicted to PS. She seems to have low self-esteem and the bullying doesn't seem to stop. A lot of my other biases have had a lot of plastic surgeries so I kinda feel bad for them. Wish they could accept themselves as they are.