Official Plastic Surgery Thread

[Eirene29]

18 hours ago, Eirene29 said:

OH yeah, TVXQ has done quite a lot of PS. I mean they're SM...so they're kinda known for that. They should turn the botox usage down, they're not old or anything. But they look old bc they are a bit too tight. 
Anyway, I think all the boys from Ikon are super distinct as well as Btob. Something the newer groups lack...
 

Yo, if you don't agree start a conversation ffs It's not like I insulted them. They all look good, I just wish the newer groups would stop following the standards of beauty to a T, bc they don't need to be perfect visually. I know they probably have lots of stress bc of the pressure of being perfect and shit

[Eirene29]

10 hours ago, UrmiUndone said:

Wasn't Yunho one of the Naturals among the boyband members in SM? Changmin I know has done a nose job but else he looks natural to me.

I don't really consider Botox and other maintenance to be PS - cosmetic enhancements yes.

I don't think so? I've seen some people on here talk about him. It looks like he got his nose at the very least, some were speculating his jaw as well. It's what I've read at least, I should probably look at some debut pics

[Eirene29]

9 hours ago, sanchelin said:

I think it's fillers. I'm happy she didn't go overboard with it. I think it looks great!

Social media has really taken a toll on celebs. They must feel so pressured to get stuff done to look good from any angle in pictures. It's especially sad when the unnecessary work they get done to look good in pictures ends up looking uncanny irl 

 

Yup, I totally agree. I wasn't trying to bash the new groups. But it's undeniable the standards have risen, as a result they all try really hard to look like the perfect boy/idol. It's a lot of pressure. It's sad, because I feel like until 3rd gen there was a little more 'freedom' or at least less pressure to conform so strictly. Now it seems very very strict. 

[Eirene29]

9 hours ago, sanchelin said:

I agree that iKON and Btob look pretty distinct

Slightly off topic, but for the longest time I couldn't tell Yunhyeong and Chanwoo apart. Maybe it was the name changes the members had that threw me off. You could've had a gun to my head and I still would've mixed those two up 

 

I was watching Kingdom and I could definitely tell them apart from the face shape and eyes lol But hey, it happens, I happen to be very good with faces haha

[Eirene29]

9 hours ago, ihaigah said:

I think it depends. A lot of 'previous generations' look very much 'plasticky' (if you want to use that word). 

And i don't think The Boyz have done much, probably less than most of previous generations. Mostly i see nose tips, subtle eye work, just a bit of fillers here and there. 

Their work is pretty suble and minimal, so i don't know where you see ' plasticky', especially compared to other groups.

Hey that's the feeling I got from watching Road to Kingdom and Kingdom. You don't have to agree but I felt like there was less diversity in terms of looks looking at them. Idk, it could be my perception. I feel like they have this 'look'. It's a feeling I don't get when I look at Btob for example, or even Seventeen. While with The Boyz or Ateez, I feel like they're all aspiring to the same look instead of getting PS that fits them?

I'm not saying ALL members from groups of 3d gen didn't get PS to look a certain way, but the ratio is a lot smaller? I feel like the standards for new groups are higher right now? Maybe bc the industry is so saturated?

Edited May 2, 2021 by Eirene29

[Eirene29]

12 hours ago, good_morning said:

Imo tbz and skz (even though I don’t properly know them) look pretty distinctive, at least i could tell them apart, meanwhile ateez as a whole look uncanny valley’ish to me

It's cool you had no problem telling them apart, but personally I had trouble with tbz and Ateez. SKZ felt more distinctive overall, besides maybe a couple of members. (I also don't know the members properly besides looking at them on Kingdom and random clips)

[supercarrot]

23 hours ago, Flywithsica said:

Yeonjun nose has always looked like that? 

 

Is that a visible nose implant outline?

[bogwitch]

tbh the only members of ateez I've had trouble telling apart are yunho and jongho. When they're standing I can tell because yunho is a giant and jongho is average height but they have similar faces. I remember them acknowledging it a couple times

[loonasatellite]

17 hours ago, purplefrancis said:

nothing different. she's taking a break due to psychological anxiety? this post is kind of tone deaf to what she's been through the past year and why she decided to take a hiatus in the first place. surely she's resting to help her mental health, don't fear for any kind of ps 

ah ... i understand how it could come off that way. i wrote that post kind of bluntly. of course her hiatus was to heal and i hope she is doing so well! just hiatus is an opportunity that a lot of idols take to do ps so i was wondering. 

my wish is to never hurt haseul ^^ i love her very much

[ihaigah]

14 hours ago, Eirene29 said:

Hey that's the feeling I got from watching Road to Kingdom and Kingdom. You don't have to agree but I felt like there was less diversity in terms of looks looking at them. Idk, it could be my perception. I feel like they have this 'look'. It's a feeling I don't get when I look at Btob for example, or even Seventeen. While with The Boyz or Ateez, I feel like they're all aspiring to the same look instead of getting PS that fits them?

I'm not saying ALL members from groups of 3d gen didn't get PS to look a certain way, but the ratio is a lot smaller? I feel like the standards for new groups are higher right now? Maybe bc the industry is so saturated?

I understand, I'm just saying that if you feel some group fit similar standard, it doesn't mean they are 'plasticky'. A lot of groups have members with very 'distinctive' faces and that doesn't mean they didn't do ps (or probably even more).  Seventeen got a lot more work done than The Boyz, so if there is a feeling to you that they all look the same it might be because of just how they look? Also everyone is seeing diversity etc. in a different way, so this is all very subjective.

 

Yeah I get what you're saying with standards for new groups are higher and it's true imo. But I think it already comes to the point when they are chosen, they are more strict with who to choose.

But I do feel like it's still different from a company to a company how much work they do to make them look 'outstanding'.

I don't think fixing eyes and nosetips (in a minimal way and each member according to what fits their face) is something that changes their looks a lot. That's why newer groups like The Boyz, Itzy, G-idle (at least most of them), don't look 'plasticky' at all to me.

When with some other newer groups, the moment I saw them, they felt like they've all (or most) done a lot (Ateez, Aespa, Enhypen), when maybe they even didn't.

This is not a shade or something like that, I just feel like the latter groups were those that all the members strive to a certain look.

 

 

[zhvero]

20 hours ago, loonasatellite said:

let me start by saying i love haseul she is my complete ult bias. 

with her hiatus coming to a close i worry she is going to come back with some kind of surgery she has mentioned in the past not liking her eyes but overcoming this and now seeing her eyes as a charming point. i know in the past she has done some filler, especially nose tip filler. 

the top are some old photos, and the bottom two are most recent. its unfortunate theyre selfies bc so much editing can go on but do you see anything? i really have a bad eye for this sort of thing haha. 

She did her inner corners, before she had no exposure of her tear ducts and now they're really exposed. I think her outer corners are also possible 

[ihaigah]

I just saw NCT Dream new teasers (they all look good), but I couldn't recognize Renjun at first. Maybe he was already talked about recently (I haven't been active here).

I think it's because of the lips. Maybe it looks like that because of the editing and angle of the photo, but it looks like he overdid lip fillers?

[good_morning]

Now this is a very unflattering photo of Son Naeun

[Eirene29]

1 hour ago, ihaigah said:

I understand, I'm just saying that if you feel some group fit similar standard, it doesn't mean they are 'plasticky'. A lot of groups have members with very 'distinctive' faces and that doesn't mean they didn't do ps (or probably even more).  Seventeen got a lot more work done than The Boyz, so if there is a feeling to you that they all look the same it might be because of just how they look? Also everyone is seeing diversity etc. in a different way, so this is all very subjective.

 

Yeah I get what you're saying with standards for new groups are higher and it's true imo. But I think it already comes to the point when they are chosen, they are more strict with who to choose.

But I do feel like it's still different from a company to a company how much work they do to make them look 'outstanding'.

I don't think fixing eyes and nosetips (in a minimal way and each member according to what fits their face) is something that changes their looks a lot. That's why newer groups like The Boyz, Itzy, G-idle (at least most of them), don't look 'plasticky' at all to me.

When with some other newer groups, the moment I saw them, they felt like they've all (or most) done a lot (Ateez, Aespa, Enhypen), when maybe they even didn't.

This is not a shade or something like that, I just feel like the latter groups were those that all the members strive to a certain look.

 

 

I wouldn't say Svt got more work done, I believe they're the same. In terms of ps done. Anyway, it's not like I counted. Yeah of course it's subjective. I don't think anyone here ever tries to pass their opinion as facts :))

Yeah I totally agree with the last statement, the latter groups seem to be going all for a certain look and that's what makes me feel like they're pretty similar in terms of features. Anyway tbz definitely have less 'refining' than Enhypen

Edited May 3, 2021 by Eirene29

[Mo_]

On 5/2/2021 at 9:35 AM, sanchelin said:

I agree that iKON and Btob look pretty distinct

Slightly off topic, but for the longest time I couldn't tell Yunhyeong and Chanwoo apart. Maybe it was the name changes the members had that threw me off. You could've had a gun to my head and I still would've mixed those two up 

 

 

To be fair they look really really similar sometimes. I remember a few occasions where they themselves had issues recognising who was in a picture.

 

Speaking of iKON does anyone has an opinion on what procedures they had?

I'm pretty sure Donghyuk and Jinhwan had their noses touched up and I think Yunhyeong had something done to fix his eyelids because they used to be really asymmetrical before win (and those procedures as a whole turned out really natural looking) but beside that I can't really spot anything else.

I'm not even sure they get fillers because I never really noticed their faces looking particularly full or stuffed. If they are getting them they are being really subtle.

[lighterxx]

2 hours ago, ihaigah said:

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Seventeen got a lot more work done than The Boyz, so if there is a feeling to you that they all look the same it might be because of just how they look? 

 

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I won't comment rest of the things as I don't think I need to discuss them, but svt didn't do more works than tbz. We just discuss Svt here alot because people keep asking them and for some reason there is a lot of carats on this thread including me, but among big groups hell even among general they are a group that is mostly natural to not much change in features with fillers etc despite being in their 6th year, at this point you usually see really drastic works. I just wanted to add this as an addition. 

Oot

Edited May 3, 2021 by lighterxx

[neila]

On 5/2/2021 at 1:23 AM, Angel_asian said:

Does Dilireba have lip fillers on her lip? I'm not sure if it has lip fillers. I doubt it might be makeup.

Before

After

 

It looks like just makeup to me? If you look on YouTube "lip makeup" you'll see lots of people in different ways doing lip makeup to make their lips full. 

[neila]

20 hours ago, UrmiUndone said:

Facial fat like many said earlier actually helps you reduce effects of aging and in Indian society people actually like chubby cheeks so I always wanted to have chubby cheeks lol. I personally find chubby cheeks super cute and she is lucky to have them tbh.

Imo denying idols undergo cosmetic procedures are actually leading to bigger problems in both idols and fans.

you make extremely good points. especially the last one. I actually have thought about getting buccal to look more chic, idol, model like. 

but again no one can exactly prove anyone's undergone surgery. But we can all see with our eyes and judge and understand different surgeries and potential ways to spot them. Unfortunately so many plastic surgeries cannot be spotted through video, picture or even in person. but extremely minor changes can completely change a person along with makeup and hair changes and sometimes even diet. 

[ihaigah]

51 minutes ago, lighterxx said:

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I won't comment rest of the things as I don't think I need to discuss them, but svt didn't do more works than tbz. We just discuss Svt here alot because people keep asking them and for some reason there is a lot of carats on this thread including me, but among big groups hell even among general they are a group that is mostly natural to not much change in features with fillers etc despite being in their 6th year, at this point you usually see really drastic works. I just wanted to add this as an addition. 

Oot

It came out wrong, I didn't want to sound like I'm comparing who got more work done or like this is some kind of big achievement (not to get a lot of work done) or even a competition. I said in the context of what another user said, that's why i mentioned Seventeen. 

I get their and your point, but I wanted to say if some group looks like they are striving for certain look to one person, it doesn't mean everyone sees it that way.

[ihaigah]

1 hour ago, Eirene29 said:

I wouldn't say Svt got more work done, I believe they're the same. In terms of ps done. Anyway, it's not like I counted. Yeah of course it's subjective. I don't think anyone here ever tries to pass their opinion as facts :))

Yeah I totally agree with the last statement, the latter groups seem to be going all for a certain look and that's what makes me feel like they're pretty similar in terms of features. Anyway tbz definitely have less 'refining' than Enhypen

I don't know, let's not compare, it already came out wrong, I also don't count, and we are obviously seeing it differently. (about who look more 'unnatural' etc. but i avoid to use that expression in general)

I just wanted to point it out, that if some group has an 'unnatural feeling' to a person, it doesn't mean everyone sees it that way also if someone has unique features it doesn't mean they've done less procedures (and even what is an unique look is seen differently by everyone).

 

[Angel_asian]

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Edited November 26, 2021 by Angel_asian

[UrmiUndone]

6 hours ago, ihaigah said:

I just saw NCT Dream new teasers (they all look good), but I couldn't recognize Renjun at first. Maybe he was already talked about recently (I haven't been active here).

I think it's because of the lips. Maybe it looks like that because of the editing and angle of the photo, but it looks like he overdid lip fillers?

Did he do epicanthoplasty? His lower lips also look suspect but probably editing as well

[KentasGlittery EyeMakeup]

6 hours ago, good_morning said:

Now this is a very unflattering photo of Son Naeun

She doesn't even look like herself anymore. I hope it's just editing.

[igotaboyonmychin]

7 hours ago, ihaigah said:

I just saw NCT Dream new teasers (they all look good), but I couldn't recognize Renjun at first. Maybe he was already talked about recently (I haven't been active here).

I think it's because of the lips. Maybe it looks like that because of the editing and angle of the photo, but it looks like he overdid lip fillers?

I was about to post the same thing when I saw this picture but I checked their latest Youtube series, his lips looked just like they always did. So I'd assume it's just editing? Maybe some slight pouting during the shoot? If it's purely editing, I just have a question why was that the decision 

Edited May 3, 2021 by igotaboyonmychin

[ihaigah]

1 hour ago, igotaboyonmychin said:

I was about to post the same thing when I saw this picture but I checked their latest Youtube series, his lips looked just like they always did. So I'd assume it's just editing? Maybe some slight pouting during the shoot? If it's purely editing, I just have a question why was that the decision 

Yes agree, a lot of times pouting can make it look different, especially on photoshoots.

But i don't know what happened with his stying/editing here in general. I just saw this photo and it doesn't even look like him.