Official Plastic Surgery Thread

[Nctyleggo]

2 hours ago, EmptyWaterBottle said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Jisoo may have had an alarplasty (oh and I figured out how to add more than one photo in spoilers, yay!)

She seems to have alarplasty scars

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She also has uneven nostrils (which another user mentioned)

 

I’d never noticed them, wow! I don’t know about an implant, though. She seems to have a Roman nose with a noticeable bump, and definitely not a skycraper-high bridge.

 

Edited April 20, 2021 by Nctyleggo

[Rei sakuma]

3 hours ago, Bbaeby78 said:

I was really planning to just lurk around in this thread forever, UNTIL I saw this pic of Lucas.....

 

Like... what???

Nooo why does he look kinda terrifying in this photo. The nose, chin, and especially the teeth really makes him look different. Has his top lip always sat on his teeth that way? why does it look overfilled?

[meeeplet]

3 hours ago, EmptyWaterBottle said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Jisoo may have had an alarplasty (oh and I figured out how to add more than one photo in spoilers, yay!)

She seems to have alarplasty scars

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She also has uneven nostrils (which another user mentioned)

 

Yeah I'm pretty sure she had an alarplasty too. I noticed the scars a little while ago because I've developed an unfortunate habit of looking up idols nosing in search of scars lol.

Here are some close up so you guys can see more clearly (they're the shiny/red lines beneath her nostrils):

The uneven nostrils, which is very clear here,

 

make me think she had some tip work done too in addition to an alarplasty.

To be fair, I think her nose work dates way back. I already see alarplasty scars in the pic on the left from when she was a trainee.  

Here, however, I do see a slightly wider nose on the left than the one she has today (on the right.)

I think alarplasties are more common than a lot of us, myself included, realize. I think a lot of idols have had them, including ones who's noses look very similar to before. (The change from a conservative alarplasty can be VERY subtle). While looking for pictures of Jisoo, I found a shot of Lovelyz Jisoo. Being me, I immediately looked up her nose and saw what looks like alarplasty scars there as well. 

SF9's Hwiyoung is another idol who's nose I thought was natural, but he, like both Jisoos, seems to have alarplasty scars:

We talked about WJSN's Bona a while back and she's another example of an idol without obvious nose work but with scars that seem to point to a subtle alarplasty.

 

Edited April 20, 2021 by meeeplet

[sooa_t]

4 hours ago, Bbaeby78 said:

I was really planning to just lurk around in this thread forever, UNTIL I saw this pic of Lucas.....

 

Like... what???

wow he used to look more 'natural', now what is this? that's a tragedy, is this photo new? we need to see more photos to check if his face looks botched

[lighterxx]

14 minutes ago, sooa_t said:

wow he used to look more 'natural', now what is this? that's a tragedy, is this photo new? we need to see more photos to check if his face looks botched

210328 I found the date 

Then it's very new, I found more pictures from that date as well 

 

[sooa_t]

22 minutes ago, lighterxx said:

210328 I found the date 

Then it's very new, I found more pictures from that date as well 

 

very new and he wasn't promoting with wayv their single

ugh he definitely did something, I can see that his chin looks different

[Rei sakuma]

18 minutes ago, lighterxx said:

210328 I found the date 

Then it's very new, I found more pictures from that date as well 

 

Oh no I think it might be some sort of chin/jaw implant. that part of his face seems to jut out so much more. you can really see it in comparison to these pictures:

Judging from those photos, i think his nose may have also collapsed. His nose used to be straighter and pointier (as a result of filler) but in those photos it looks strange. Imo now he kinda looks like minho

[seola]

4 hours ago, meeeplet said:

Yeah I'm pretty sure she had an alarplasty too. I noticed the scars a little while ago because I've developed an unfortunate habit of looking up idols nosing in search of scars lol.

Here are some close up so you guys can see more clearly (they're the shiny/red lines beneath her nostrils):

The uneven nostrils, which is very clear here,

 

make me think she had some tip work done too in addition to an alarplasty.

To be fair, I think her nose work dates way back. I already see alarplasty scars in the pic on the left from when she was a trainee.  

Here, however, I do see a slightly wider nose on the left than the one she has today (on the right.)

I think alarplasties are more common than a lot of us, myself included, realize. I think a lot of idols have had them, including ones who's noses look very similar to before. (The change from a conservative alarplasty can be VERY subtle). While looking for pictures of Jisoo, I found a shot of Lovelyz Jisoo. Being me, I immediately looked up her nose and saw what looks like alarplasty scars there as well. 

SF9's Hwiyoung is another idol who's nose I thought was natural, but he, like both Jisoos, seems to have alarplasty scars:

We talked about WJSN's Bona a while back and she's another example of an idol without obvious nose work but with scars that seem to point to a subtle alarplasty.

 

lovelyz jisoo nose job was so unnecessary. idk when exactly she got it done.. her nose was already perfect for her face, now it's too small and throws off the proportions

[good_morning]

hoping that it’s just the ugly editing

[Eirene29]

16 hours ago, Bbaeby78 said:

I was really planning to just lurk around in this thread forever, UNTIL I saw this pic of Lucas.....

 

Like... what???

Uh...what happened to his nose?

[UrmiUndone]

20 minutes ago, good_morning said:

hoping that it’s just the ugly editing

She seems to have done jaw shave/buccal fat removal and her nose again. Lips as well

[pinkpanda_spirit]

4 hours ago, good_morning said:

hoping that it’s just the ugly editing

Promotion pictures are heavily edited...

[Rei sakuma]

Whoever clowned my post about Lucas having something done to his chin, can you please explain why? I'm genuinely curious as he really does look different. Others with similar opinions also got clowned so..

[Eirene29]

9 minutes ago, Angelica_mochi said:

Whoever clowned my post about Lucas having something done to his chin, can you please explain why? I'm genuinely curious as he really does look different. Others with similar opinions also got clowned so..

Probably a fan was lurking and got offended and thought they could put you down by clowning you...It happened to me and a couple users a few pages back because we were talking about an Ateez member. 
Just don't mind this pathetic fans they'll never try to explain why they 'disagree' or whatever

[Lolly21]

17 hours ago, Angelica_mochi said:

Nooo why does he look kinda terrifying in this photo. The nose, chin, and especially the teeth really makes him look different. Has his top lip always sat on his teeth that way? why does it look overfilled?

Besides the obvious whitening filter (which I hate) that was used and makes his gums look black, I'm sure this is just an unflattering pic. I mean, I watched a recent video of Lucas uploaded on WayV's channel and he looks the same. His jaw may look sus but since he debuted it has always looked like that... He uploaded a video on IG as well and he seemed the same to me. Maybe we will have to wait for another video or something...

This is the video from WayV's channel :

This is from March though. 

Thoughts?

On 4/19/2021 at 3:26 PM, lighterxx said:

Exactly, and honestly they are all considered pretty, if they were raised in Korean standards, it's really likely they would try to kill that uniqueness, because that's what Korea beauty standards are, very specific features, rest are considered ugly or undesirable. You can see comments like "she is so pretty but..." in almost every non standard Korean celeb article. Which is where it really differs from Western culture of standing out. 

It's so disturbing to me. Normally, people would stare at someone's faces and their overall features and consider their beauty according to that. But it seems that Koreans want each and every feature to be according to their beliefs and if it's not like that you should be able to "fix it" asap. Like? Of course there are certain standards in each region and industry but even in Hollywood I see a certain diversity in some features, even if the celebrities had surgery...

[meeeplet]

I noticed recently a lot of people online saying that Aespa's Karina and WJSN's Yeoreum look alike, and after seeing some pictures comparing them, I definitely do see a resemblance. 

Karina's possible procedures have been discussed pretty extensively here and I think it's safe to say she's had a fair amount of work done. Yeoreum, on the other hand, has only been mentioned a couple times here and she seems to have been put down as natural (I think I did this too and it was probably due to a severe lack of predebut pictures.) However, given the features a lot of Karina's features don't seem to have occurred naturally, I'm starting to suspect that Yeoreum also may have had some stuff done after looking at more of her pics.

I could only find one predebut of Yeoreum from before she joined the company: 

In it, she is very small so I can't really use it to compare.

I did find some older photos of her from when she was a trainee where her eyes look a little uneven (which isn't the case nowadays):

Her creases also look deeper. It also looks like she may have had no crease or a hidden crease on her left where now there's a clearly visible one that is identical to the crease on her right eye:

She has very deep and perfect creases nowadays:

I don't have the predebut pictures to make a clear judgement but I also suspect she may have had a jaw shave (probably before the pics I used for her eyes were taken):

Her jaw is similar to Karina's (who most likely had a jaw shave) in my opinion, but it's slightly less narrow-looking from the front.

These pics makes me think she may have had an epicanthoplasty as well:

Her nose seems natural as far as I can tell and I actually really appreciate that she kept this feature even if it doesn't align with Korean standards (a little wider and flatter than preferred). I think her nose only adds to her appeal, and makes her beauty more unique and memorable.

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[good_morning]

2 hours ago, pinkpanda_spirit said:

Promotion pictures are heavily edited...

Thanks God, she looks a bit different but at least recognizable and pretty too

[UrmiUndone]

1 hour ago, meeeplet said:

I noticed recently a lot of people online saying that Aespa's Karina and WJSN's Yeoreum look alike, and after seeing some pictures comparing them, I definitely do see a resemblance. 

Karina's possible procedures have been discussed pretty extensively here and I think it's safe to say she's had a fair amount of work done. Yeoreum, on the other hand, has only been mentioned a couple times here and she seems to have been put down as natural (I think I did this too and it was probably due to a severe lack of predebut pictures.) However, given the features a lot of Karina's features don't seem to have occurred naturally, I'm starting to suspect that Yeoreum also may have had some stuff done after looking at more of her pics.

I could only find one predebut of Yeoreum from before she joined the company: 

In it, she is very small so I can't really use it to compare.

I did find some older photos of her from when she was a trainee where her eyes look a little uneven (which isn't the case nowadays):

Her creases also look deeper. It also looks like she may have had no crease or a hidden crease on her left where now there's a clearly visible one that is identical to the crease on her right eye:

She has very deep and perfect creases nowadays:

I don't have the predebut pictures to make a clear judgement but I also suspect she may have had a jaw shave (probably before the pics I used for her eyes were taken):

Her jaw is similar to Karina's (who most likely had a jaw shave) in my opinion, but it's slightly less narrow-looking from the front.

These pics makes me think she may have had an epicanthoplasty as well:

Her nose seems natural as far as I can tell and I actually really appreciate that she kept this feature even if it doesn't align with Korean standards (a little wider and flatter than preferred). I think her nose only adds to her appeal, and makes her beauty more unique and memorable.

she did something to her chin? And talking about corner cutting, it seems each and every female idols end up doing it nowadays and even men end up doing it.

[Eirene29]

5 hours ago, Eirene29 said:

Probably a fan was lurking and got offended and thought they could put you down by clowning you...It happened to me and a couple users a few pages back because we were talking about an Ateez member. 
Just don't mind this pathetic fans they'll never try to explain why they 'disagree' or whatever

Seriously leaving negative emojis makes you soooo funny /s 

Grow up. Learn how to have a conversation like an adult.

[Lolly21]

4 hours ago, meeeplet said:

I noticed recently a lot of people online saying that Aespa's Karina and WJSN's Yeoreum look alike, and after seeing some pictures comparing them, I definitely do see a resemblance. 

Karina's possible procedures have been discussed pretty extensively here and I think it's safe to say she's had a fair amount of work done. Yeoreum, on the other hand, has only been mentioned a couple times here and she seems to have been put down as natural (I think I did this too and it was probably due to a severe lack of predebut pictures.) However, given the features a lot of Karina's features don't seem to have occurred naturally, I'm starting to suspect that Yeoreum also may have had some stuff done after looking at more of her pics.

I could only find one predebut of Yeoreum from before she joined the company: 

In it, she is very small so I can't really use it to compare.

I did find some older photos of her from when she was a trainee where her eyes look a little uneven (which isn't the case nowadays):

Her creases also look deeper. It also looks like she may have had no crease or a hidden crease on her left where now there's a clearly visible one that is identical to the crease on her right eye:

She has very deep and perfect creases nowadays:

I don't have the predebut pictures to make a clear judgement but I also suspect she may have had a jaw shave (probably before the pics I used for her eyes were taken):

Her jaw is similar to Karina's (who most likely had a jaw shave) in my opinion, but it's slightly less narrow-looking from the front.

These pics makes me think she may have had an epicanthoplasty as well:

Her nose seems natural as far as I can tell and I actually really appreciate that she kept this feature even if it doesn't align with Korean standards (a little wider and flatter than preferred). I think her nose only adds to her appeal, and makes her beauty more unique and memorable.

This girl is very pretty! And I agree.

Her nose gives her a uniqueness and it adds character. Also makes her look younger.

I've always thought that slightly bigger or just bigger noses makes people look younger and memorable. I wish noses like these were more normalized and accepted in the entertainment industry. But sometimes when some celebrities get nose jobs they don't get just one but like 3 and it makes them look older...

[Mo_]

7 hours ago, meeeplet said:

I noticed recently a lot of people online saying that Aespa's Karina and WJSN's Yeoreum look alike, and after seeing some pictures comparing them, I definitely do see a resemblance. 

Karina's possible procedures have been discussed pretty extensively here and I think it's safe to say she's had a fair amount of work done. Yeoreum, on the other hand, has only been mentioned a couple times here and she seems to have been put down as natural (I think I did this too and it was probably due to a severe lack of predebut pictures.) However, given the features a lot of Karina's features don't seem to have occurred naturally, I'm starting to suspect that Yeoreum also may have had some stuff done after looking at more of her pics.

I could only find one predebut of Yeoreum from before she joined the company: 

In it, she is very small so I can't really use it to compare.

I did find some older photos of her from when she was a trainee where her eyes look a little uneven (which isn't the case nowadays):

Her creases also look deeper. It also looks like she may have had no crease or a hidden crease on her left where now there's a clearly visible one that is identical to the crease on her right eye:

She has very deep and perfect creases nowadays:

I don't have the predebut pictures to make a clear judgement but I also suspect she may have had a jaw shave (probably before the pics I used for her eyes were taken):

Her jaw is similar to Karina's (who most likely had a jaw shave) in my opinion, but it's slightly less narrow-looking from the front.

These pics makes me think she may have had an epicanthoplasty as well:

Her nose seems natural as far as I can tell and I actually really appreciate that she kept this feature even if it doesn't align with Korean standards (a little wider and flatter than preferred). I think her nose only adds to her appeal, and makes her beauty more unique and memorable.

While i agree that she had  something done to her eyes she definetly didin't shave her jaw.

From the front her lower face looks mostly the same (except for one pic where I suspect she had some chin fillers), a couple of the pics you posted where edited to remove her mandible angle but it's still there.

These are some recent pics (april 2021)

[meeeplet]

1 hour ago, Mo_ said:

While i agree that she had  something done to her eyes she definetly didin't shave her jaw.

From the front her lower face looks mostly the same (except for one pic where I suspect she had some chin fillers), a couple of the pics you posted where edited to remove her mandible angle but it's still there.

These are some recent pics (april 2021)

Oh I was saying I'm not sure about her jaw, but if she did it, it was before any of the like two predebut pics I could find. There's really no way to know for sure and she has the kind of jaw that could go either way (be naturally occurring or the result of a jaw shave). I think a jaw shave is possible for her just because she does have a steep jaw that's narrow and pointed from the front with a high mandible angle (it's definitely there tho). This is often the outcome of a jaw shave but definitely doesn't have to be, and in Yeoreum's case it may not be, though without proper predebuts it's impossible to really say.

[lighterxx]

2 hours ago, meeeplet said:

Oh I was saying I'm not sure about her jaw, but if she did it, it was before any of the like two predebut pics I could find. There's really no way to know for sure and she has the kind of jaw that could go either way (be naturally occurring or the result of a jaw shave). I think a jaw shave is possible for her just because she does have a steep jaw that's narrow and pointed from the front with a high mandible angle (it's definitely there tho). This is often the outcome of a jaw shave but definitely doesn't have to be, and in Yeoreum's case it may not be, though without proper predebuts it's impossible to really say.

She just has a weak mandible for me, I don't think she had jaw shave. You can see in some of the pics you shared her mandible is there, it's just small and weak, from the very start I believe. 

But her jaw, I guess I can say corners, juts out more predebut. While I don't think she did jaw shave, she either touched her jaw with something less strong (like masseter Botox) or made a change at her cheekbones. 

 

[neila]

I'm listening to twice's new banger ON REPEAT  
I totally forgot how much better dancers they are compared to the average girl group  until I saw how good the weki meki - cool dancers are


Here's my opinion...

Here you can see the outline of her nose implant









The screenshot doesn't show very well, but if you watch the video her chin implant seems very odd and seems like something is protruding forwards in the centre of her chin, I think she might need to get a revision on it , im worried there's something there sticking and it will slowly protrude more and more.









Here's a very clear side profile of her cheeks and chin, her cheeks protrude a lot more than what's usually naturally possible, which is probably filler or implant.



here i'm not completely sure but I think u can see the outline of her chin implant:


nayeon has very low body fat (for sure), and maybe her skin is thinner than usual (?) which is why her implants are more visible than other people.


also if you compare her forehead to the "bottom half of her face" i.e. her cheeks down to her chin it feels very puffy / bloated, 
some would argue she's just bloated, but I would say this is likely filler.
some would also argue it's just lighting / angle

[neila]

On 4/21/2021 at 5:01 AM, EmptyWaterBottle said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Jisoo may have had an alarplasty (oh and I figured out how to add more than one photo in spoilers, yay!)

She seems to have alarplasty scars

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She also has uneven nostrils (which another user mentioned)

 

Omg you're right... I never noticed... I definitly agree alarpasty, thanks for finding the photos and sharing
but again she is goddess tier pretty in my opinion