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3 hours ago, lighterxx said:

yeah it captured my attention more than her lips, which i think it looks a bit larger due to amazingly shiny lipstick rather than fillers lol 

the shape of her lips has changed compared even to kcon which happened ~2 weeks ago. 

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i think the most apparent changes are in her top lip, however her lips overall look a lot plumper, and her lip corners seem more lifted and 'smiley'. she's always had that little 'bump' in the middle of her top lip (the upper central tubercle?) however, in the last photo it looks wider and more accentuated. her lips also feel more prominent on her face for me (also i chose recent photos as bbc's makeup artist would always give her weird concealer/gradient lips lol)

it wouldn't be a loona comeback without fillers (lol) but i actually really like this change on her - she looks a lot more mature whilst still retaining her cute smile, haha

edit: even whilst scrolling down these three photos her vibe feels totally different

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4 minutes ago, purplefrancis said:

the shape of her lips has changed compared even to kcon which happened ~2 weeks ago. 

posted march 15

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posted today (6th april)

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i think the most apparent changes are in her top lip, however her lips overall look a lot plumper, and her lip corners seem more lifted and 'smiley'. she's always had that little 'bump' in the middle of her top lip (the upper central tubercle?) however, in the last photo it looks wider and more accentuated. her lips also feel more prominent on her face for me (also i chose recent photos as bbc's makeup artist would always give her weird concealer/gradient lips lol)

it wouldn't be a loona comeback without fillers (lol) but i actually really like this change on her - she looks a lot more mature whilst still retaining her cute smile, haha

edit: even whilst scrolling down these three photos her vibe feels totally different

HM afterall I don't see her more than fans, so I can make mistakes, while it seems like there isn't much change between bottom lip, I can see smile lines changing a bit. Could it be smile surgery? Or Botox? There are Botox methods to make your smile look slightly more "standard". For upper lip, honestly I only saw it covered so I can't comment, but I do think there is difference between 1st and 3rd pic, when talked about fillers, I focused majorly on bottom lip honestly lol

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38 minutes ago, lighterxx said:

HM afterall I don't see her more than fans, so I can make mistakes, while it seems like there isn't much change between bottom lip, I can see smile lines changing a bit. Could it be smile surgery? Or Botox? There are Botox methods to make your smile look slightly more "standard". For upper lip, honestly I only saw it covered so I can't comment, but I do think there is difference between 1st and 3rd pic, when talked about fillers, I focused majorly on bottom lip honestly lol

that's fair enough, i still think compared to the 1st pic her lower lip looks bigger too as the 2nd is overlined 

& like this kind of surgery?

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idk how long it takes to heal from & since this change is super recent, and her actual smile still looks the same - i leant more towards just filler ^^

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this pic is from the same twitter post ^

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9 minutes ago, purplefrancis said:

that's fair enough, i still think compared to the 1st pic her lower lip looks bigger too as the 2nd is overlined 

& like this kind of surgery?

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idk how long it takes to heal from & since this change is super recent, and her actual smile still looks the same - i leant more towards just filler ^^

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this pic is from the same twitter post ^

Yeah smile surgery aka joker surgery per popular quotes, I don't think it's such it has such a curved an obvious look, I'm leaning towards Botox, hell maybe even teeth Botox (maybe as I can't see her smile properly from these pics) 

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2 hours ago, purplefrancis said:

 

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kinda off topic but this is one of the worst before/after photos i've seen. why is she biting on her tongue in the before pic and doing an awkward lip bite in the after pic. what were they going for here lol

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10 minutes ago, loozzer said:

kinda off topic but this is one of the worst before/after photos i've seen. why is she biting on her tongue in the before pic and doing an awkward lip bite in the after pic. what were they going for here lol

idk about tongue lol but that lipbite it not a lipbite, her teeth are just bad o.o like twisted around a bit? idk how to explain o.o 

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4 hours ago, Nctyleggo said:

I‘m actually confident SM will not dare to mess up most of ÆSPA post debut. I don‘t see them touching an inch of Karina‘s face a least, she‘s their new golden child. Giselle looks pretty and normal (?). Normal as in not looking like an avatar. She has an earthy and simple beauty, and I hope that is enough for her and that she can actually shine for her talents. And that SM leaves her looking human-like.

I’ve tried so hard to stan them, watched their FCs, their individual content... I too am seriously underwhelmed by their talents. Winter has a nice voice, but the most resting face whilst performing I’ve ever seen in my life, she truly is Irene’s successor. Giselle is no good rapper as of now, so lets see how she improves, if she does at all And, to be brutally honest, I don‘t even see it with Karina, she‘s lead dancer level at best (plenty of room to improve, but I‘d expect more from a 4 year long training period), doesn’t have much of a stage presence either (yes, many people say she does, but a casual smirk on an otherwise bored looking countenance won‘t save her from not dropping hard to the chorus she herself was in charge of centering). The only thing she has going on for her are her surreal looks and body and a sweet personality (more than enough in SK) but, ya know, its SM, so I’d expect a bit of talent added to the mix... what the heck happened to the rookies in charge of dancing? Where they also threatened by the looming hand of Dr. Kim? 
 

Ningning is the only member I find interesting to watch onstage, and she‘s not even the MD, and Chinese on top of that. The rest are just so... bland? I’m just not the type to force myself into liking mediocrity just because “stan the gurls OMG, such queens even though they’ve shown nothing worthy of praise, step on my face, goddess“. I won‘t stan anyone just because they‘re hot, SM, hear me out. I refuse. 
 

Also want to add this has to be the most entertaining thread I‘ve ever encountered on Onehallyu.

 

Yes !!! you said everything I wanted to say lol. I avoid writing very long texts because I don't know how to express myself and I didn't want to be misunderstood😕

Anyways thanks for sharing your opinion

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Seola was mentioned a few pages ago for possibly having a nose job, but I think some of her other changes may have flown under the radar.

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For one, I see fairly high double eyelid creases now which weren't apparent in her predebuts. (Either there was no crease or it was hidden).

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The creases she has now also look a little artificially deep to me:

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I also see a change in her jaw/chin:

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I know she's lost a lot of weight during her active years but I think she's likely also had a jaw shave. Her jaw is very steep now, and though there is a slight mandible angle, it is very weak and close to her ear:

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I think she probably either gets chin fillers or has a chin implant too. Her chin looks extremely pointy to me:

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Let me know if you think I missed anything!

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28 minutes ago, meeeplet said:

Seola was mentioned a few pages ago for possibly having a nose job, but I think some of her other changes may have flown under the radar.

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For one, I see fairly high double eyelid creases now which weren't apparent in her predebuts. (Either there was no crease or it was hidden).

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The creases she has now also look a little artificially deep to me:

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I also see a change in her jaw/chin:

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I know she's lost a lot of weight during her active years but I think she's likely also had a jaw shave. Her jaw is very steep now, and though there is a slight mandible angle, it is very weak and close to her ear:

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I think she probably either gets chin fillers or has a chin implant too. Her chin looks extremely pointy to me:

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Let me know if you think I missed anything!

Do we mention anything about teeth with her, if not is there any side view closed mouth pics of her? I suspect a dental procedure but I am unsure, I couldn't remember if we mentioned one too. 

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6 hours ago, purplefrancis said:

the shape of her lips has changed compared even to kcon which happened ~2 weeks ago. 

posted march 15

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posted march 26

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posted today (6th april)

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i think the most apparent changes are in her top lip, however her lips overall look a lot plumper, and her lip corners seem more lifted and 'smiley'. she's always had that little 'bump' in the middle of her top lip (the upper central tubercle?) however, in the last photo it looks wider and more accentuated. her lips also feel more prominent on her face for me (also i chose recent photos as bbc's makeup artist would always give her weird concealer/gradient lips lol)

it wouldn't be a loona comeback without fillers (lol) but i actually really like this change on her - she looks a lot more mature whilst still retaining her cute smile, haha

edit: even whilst scrolling down these three photos her vibe feels totally different

WAIT IS THAT GOWON? i didn't recognize her lmao

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7 hours ago, Taeyeon_sss... said:

I know I shouldn't be laughing but the part I highlighted is absolutely hilarious LMAOOOO - SM really went ham with the first 3 and with Giselle they were like "shit we ran out of money after overdoing the other 3". 

Jokes aside, I hope I'm not coming off as overly mean to aespa; I'm quite liking them actually, but it's true that there's a contrast between them and other SM girl groups even at their debuts. 

Also, in what way does StayC feel like SM to you? I don't quite see it other than with Yoon and maybe Isa.

Lol I know it sounds like I'm some anti but I'm just naturally shady oops

No I actually liked Black Mamba; I feel neutral about the group. I am an anti of whoever gives them their outfits though. Jesus.

About STAYC, they are all the epitome of classic Korean beauty, they look like actresses (one actually is an actress lol). SM to me has that type of image - Krystal, Yoona (tho her jaw is obviously fake..), Irene, etc. They tend to like the classic and clean look with their visuals. Less cutesy and approachable than JYP, less intense than YG.

Actually, I think Yeri is an underrated example. Her face (minus the recent lip fillers) is super pretty and very natural looking. I've always found her pretty and think it's sad that she never gets the right clothing for her body shape.

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15 hours ago, pinkpanda_spirit said:

@ bold that's such an hypocrite thing to say when y'all are bashing her new face every 2min (see your first sentence). Sorry but I'm tired of seeing posts like "she was way prettier before" "omg what happened to her face" "what did wendy do???" "can't she go back to her old visuals?". We got it omg but she can't do anything about it, she must already feel sh*tty after her accident, I don't think she needs people bashing her visuals 24/7

I'm sorry but that's just my opinion, I said she was prettier before "To me", and I wasn't bashing her visuals at all. I even said "nonetheless, I hope she's happy and healthy". I don't have anything against her to "BASH" her, I really admire her the way she is. And I am pretty sure that's not "BASHING". stop being so pressed about it and please respect my opinion.

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You can get fillers to give you a smile or lifted corner look. I remember I was watching this video and the girl was talking about procedures she’s done and she said how she got lip fillers to her corners to lift them and help with her resting bitch face. I always figured that was something you can do with lip filler, since in general theres so much you can do with it, and that kind of just solidified it for me. And, it looked really amazing and natural on her too. 

Also, I feel like a few idols say they lost a ton of weight but they just got a jaw shave. Of course, a ton of idols do just lose a lot of weight, but I feel like a few get a jaw shave (or lose weight and also do a little something to their jaw) and say they lost weight to account/hide their change. Like for example, for Yoojung when she got her surgery I remember seeing a video of her saying she lost 30 pounds in a month and thats why she looks so different and doesn't have a chubby face anymore, but it really was just her jaw work. I also feel like the best time to do a little work is when you were "chubby" then lose a lot of weight. Like joy, jihyo, the girl from I think gfriend, etc. They all look so good (or maybe they just had quality work). 

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9 hours ago, purplefrancis said:

that's fair enough, i still think compared to the 1st pic her lower lip looks bigger too as the 2nd is overlined 

& like this kind of surgery?

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idk how long it takes to heal from & since this change is super recent, and her actual smile still looks the same - i leant more towards just filler ^^

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this pic is from the same twitter post ^

idk why they don't fix her overbite/crooked jaw instead of that. It's very unnecessary imo

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1 hour ago, zhvero said:

Also, I feel like a few idols say they lost a ton of weight but they just got a jaw shave. Of course, a ton of idols do just lose a lot of weight, but I feel like a few get a jaw shave (or lose weight and also do a little something to their jaw) and say they lost weight to account/hide their change. Like for example, for Yoojung when she got her surgery I remember seeing a video of her saying she lost 30 pounds in a month and thats why she looks so different and doesn't have a chubby face anymore, but it really was just her jaw work. I also feel like the best time to do a little work is when you were "chubby" then lose a lot of weight. Like joy, jihyo, the girl from I think gfriend, etc. They all look so good (or maybe they just had quality work). 

I think you just described skz Felix 

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5 hours ago, Aryu said:

Lol I know it sounds like I'm some anti but I'm just naturally shady oops

No I actually liked Black Mamba; I feel neutral about the group. I am an anti of whoever gives them their outfits though. Jesus.

Aren't we all LMFAO. Although their latest stage outfits, those cute blue ones, are super super neat and I really like them.

5 hours ago, Aryu said:

About STAYC, they are all the epitome of classic Korean beauty, they look like actresses (one actually is an actress lol). SM to me has that type of image - Krystal, Yoona (tho her jaw is obviously fake..), Irene, etc. They tend to like the classic and clean look with their visuals. Less cutesy and approachable than JYP, less intense than YG.

Actually, I think Yeri is an underrated example. Her face (minus the recent lip fillers) is super pretty and very natural looking. I've always found her pretty and think it's sad that she never gets the right clothing for her body shape.

Makes sense actually. But honestly, considering how strikingly similar both Karina and Winter are to Taeyeon in some angles, I would probably still assume that aespa are SM, even if I didn't know. 

 

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19 hours ago, lighterxx said:

NOT MUCH??? CHEOL??? 

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THIS GUY where even crazy whitewashing filters couldnt remove his hairyness??? 

 

your honour i have strong objections. 

I meeeean that's more hair than a lot of the other Seventeen members (lucky bastards) but If I let my leg hair grow it's probably the same as his lol

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9 hours ago, lighterxx said:
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OH I TAKE IT BACK I FOUND MORE INFO 

 

 

im a bit jelly now, mine never looks this good 

 

 

 

OOT?

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Armpits are actually not that painful? I do it all the time, It hurts more to wax the upper lip area 🤣

 

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11 hours ago, lighterxx said:

Do we mention anything about teeth with her, if not is there any side view closed mouth pics of her? I suspect a dental procedure but I am unsure, I couldn't remember if we mentioned one too. 

I don't think a dental procedure was brought up at least recently? For the side view do you mean from predebut or from now? For predebut this is the best I could find (her hair is covering most of her face unfortunately and her mouth seems slightly open 

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More of her face is visible here but her mouth is open:

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Interestingly enough, she seems to have her mouth open pretty much throughout Janus MV (where these pics are coming from). In my experience, this points mouth breathing, which typically comes from some sort of dental issue. I also found a post on this thread from a 2017 mentioning she fixed her teeth.

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1 hour ago, meeeplet said:

I don't think a dental procedure was brought up at least recently? For the side view do you mean from predebut or from now? For predebut this is the best I could find (her hair is covering most of her face unfortunately and her mouth seems slightly open 

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More of her face is visible here but her mouth is open:

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Interestingly enough, she seems to have her mouth open pretty much throughout Janus MV (where these pics are coming from). In my experience, this points mouth breathing, which typically comes from some sort of dental issue. I also found a post on this thread from a 2017 mentioning she fixed her teeth.

She definitely did her lip shape from side is different. Like a bit more filled out? I guess you can compare it to someone with dental procedure 

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Hers is definitely more slight tho, that's why I asked for it tbh 

4 hours ago, Eirene29 said:
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Armpits are actually not that painful? I do it all the time, It hurts more to wax the upper lip area 🤣

 

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Mine hurts like bitch what magic all of you are using???? T^T 

 

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1 hour ago, lighterxx said:

 

 

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Mine hurts like bitch what magic all of you are using???? T^T 

 

Idk I just do it myself? I use the roll-on wax thingie, I have no idea what it's called lol  It could also be that I have a pretty high pain tolerance haha

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That's a bit weird but I live for Yoon's (STAYC) jaw

it's serving Nana's strong jawline and looks so good on her !

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She's so charismatic ! I hope she'll never shave it

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