Official Plastic Surgery Thread

[Eirene29]

22 minutes ago, echobunny said:

my god, i can't believe the amount of ps the aespa girls had. i haven't paid much attention to them yet but then pre-debut pics appeared i was like, who are these girls?? karina didn't even need that jaw shave

Yeah, and it's very obvious...probably they're gonna get a lot of hate. Although it's not weird, it's the SM style, most of their idols get lots of procedures. From old to younger idols. 

[Eirene29]

On 11/25/2020 at 3:14 AM, tgog said:

True but I was shocked in particular by Aespa's changes. SM idols usually maintain some semblance of their previous appearance, especially at debut, but Aespa got so much done at so young.

Yeah I can't believe we're discussing that here LOL but Yeri has always had a shorter torso and larger boobs. Not going to add the photos here but you can search up some of her photos from pilates or refer to her thirst trap from when Ariana Grande followed her. I do agree that her face looks a little too smooth and just strange in that photo tho

Yeah I guess the shocking part is that they are ALL very different and they all got a lot of surgery from debut and pre debut. While the other SM artist changed gradually from debut on. But personally i feel like SM is trying to 'one up' Blackpink, If you think about it. They made the aespa girls look like insta models which is what Blackpink image is like, and they also made the AI concept to sort of have the upper hand on Blackpink. Like 'Oh we have the newest trend and the better technology and they also look like models'

[Eirene29]

Whoever was angry about my comment saying SM was trying to one up YG needs a reality check. That's literally what every company in Kpop does. They look at what groups in the market work and they try to debut a better improved version of said group. Especially big companies! I mean you must be blind to not see this. 
Ugh.

[Eirene29]

5 hours ago, lighterxx said:

No problem!! Feel free to ask too, if I didn't checked past page I wouldn't even see it rip  

Jake seems natural, I was talking about another member but wow Jay looked nothing like his current look?? Which is surprising for me because he is considered Jun alike, and Jun barely changed at all

I feel like he had fillers or maybe implant for chin looking here?? And even jaw shave perhaps? I did not expect that considering he looks fairly natural o.o maybe I thought that because Jun is natural rip

I was talking about Heeseung btw, I googled and found about him!! I'm pretty sure he relies heavily on fillers and maybe nosejob (I need more predebut pics) 

Current:

Predebut:

(I hope these are all him btw) 

Currently his nose is overly perky, I suspect fillers at tip, and fillers at chin 

He is too young to overly rely on fillers rip, its a shame

Oh, that's the guy Jun danced with on I Land? Damn they look NOTHING alike. Who even said that anyway? LOL That side profile...girl, that nose...

Anyway the only person Jun looks alike is Heechul anyway. His face is way too unique honestly. 

[Eirene29]

10 hours ago, Owlet said:

The guy in those pictures is Heeseung but it's actually Jay who resembles Jun a bit. Althought I don't think he naturally looks like him

Ohhhh okay, yeah I see it in the eyes a little...and yeah you're right I don't think his looks are natural at all. Not that there's nothing wrong with it, it's sad that he got surgery so young. Anyway not that Jun is completely natural but at least he still looks like himself. 

 

[Eirene29]

7 hours ago, lighterxx said:

First, I am surprised Jay looks like Jun with surgery, Jun has quite an interesting, natural face, so it would be interesting to get a full on surgery and instead look like someone else you didn't aim for rip

Oh well, Jun is gorgeous at least so no need for worry 

For Heeseung, I think it could be like you said, but if that's the case it is quite sad. But if what you said is true, it also explains why his nose is constantly changing. Face grows up, he makes small changes, face grows again, and tiny changes again rinse and repeat till today. Still, that's too young to have surgery, I'm judging his parents not gonna lie. 

Jun looks like Jay, whose pic is shared by Owlet. He is not natural too, but from plus side he knew where to stop. The pics you quoted and I shared is Heeseung lol

Yeah the other use told me lol Jay's eyes looks like Jun but on video they look nothing alike lol I saw that video with the two of them dancing. But still Jay to me looks quite unnatural, he's got the typical face of young idols now. Everyone looks like him, I seriously have trouble recognising some of them bc they all seem to go to the same surgeon. 

Edited December 1, 2020 by Eirene29

[Eirene29]

13 hours ago, Owlet said:

Ever since Shotaro was revealed as one of the new nct members I've always thought that he looked pretty natural but I think he might've done something to his nose? Specifically the tip which looked pretty bulbous back then, it's not extremely narrow now either but I definitely see a difference.

BEFORE

AFTER

Not sure if he was an SM trainee at that point (probably), however this is a predebut picture but maybe not pre-surgery.

I see that he reduced the nostrils, not sure about the tip or bridge but the nostrils are obvious...Koreans seems to despise large nostrils unfortunately

[Eirene29]

2 hours ago, UrmiUndone said:

He didn't need those surgeries....He looked good naturally

 

Yup, I know....but then again SM in particular mostly wants boys and girls that stand out and are not just 'cute' or 'average looking' which is extremely sad

[Eirene29]

8 hours ago, Maurizio Sarri said:

As if looking plastic =/= looking average at this point ghhhh

Yeah, I know right?! I guess for SM looking different than 'common people' is the mark of beauty or whatever. Or maybe it's just a standard at this point, they don't even think about it. It's more like 'yeah, every idol has to be an attractive plastic boy/girl'. Who knows what they think. 

It's the same in Hollywood, every single actress playing the romantic leading role HAS to look a certain way. Tiny noses and big eyes. For all their cries of 'diversity' they are awfully bland, ugh. 

[Eirene29]

19 hours ago, shia said:

I think the combination of editing and fillers made him look super fake here. Maybe it's a fake tan too? 

I think the problem here is the obvious editing...he doesn't look like that in motion. Just look at suju recent appearance on Weekly Idol 

 

[Eirene29]

It's sad we can't search threads anymore....I want to read the Super Junior's speculations 

No on wants to talk about them anymore here.....

[Eirene29]

11 hours ago, Halla. said:

saw this tragedy on the latest episode of Weekly Idol:

 

He doesn't look...bad? What are you talking about?

[Eirene29]

1 hour ago, Owlet said:

From my understanding, That type of hair style adds volume near the jawline so it balances out how weak it looks and makes it seem fuller. Basically if you "lack" something you can compensate or make up for it somehow.

And it really does work because Wendy definitely looks a lot better with the hairstyle she had during Umpah Umpah era than let's say Peekaboo era when she had long blond hair.

From what I've seen this hair usually looks good on various face shapes so I think you should still try it if you really want to.

And it'll grow back anyway

It's that fake tan line(?) on the side. Or it could be foundation that oxidized because it looks too orange for anyone.

looks like ill fitting foundation, as usual Korean make up artists don't know how to handle a tanner skin tone.

I can't think of a single reason why Siwon would fake tan, actually I think he probably doesn't care much about accidentally getting tanned in the sun like many other Koreans seem to do

[Eirene29]

17 minutes ago, thelliot said:

hey y'all. anyone think onewe's dongmyeong (stream a book in memory) might've gotten some sort of lip filler or am i going crazy?
here's some older pics compared to new ones:

his lips have an uneven, puffy shape i associate with fillers. but it's not something i'd expect from a male idol so i'd like some other opinions!!  thanks :] 

 

Isn't he one of the guys that was on P101?
He's got a shorter nose now. *Sigh* He used to look unique...pressure must be crazy though, so I understand him.

[Eirene29]

2 hours ago, thelliot said:

yup, he was on produce s2 AND the unit. i still lovvve his visuals, and tbh i don't see a change in his nose? but maybe that's just me 

At least from the pics you posted here and the profile pic from P101 it's clear that the point of his nose used to be flat and now isn't anymore. Could be the pics you chose or could be he got fillers/nosejob.

I have to say, regardless of whatever he's done, he does look way more like a generic idol right now. Which is sad, he had a very unique and recognisable face. I think one of the reason he wasn't much popular before was that he didn't look like a standard idol. At least the standards of today. It's sad, but I think that was one of the reasons he never got popular.

Edited December 23, 2020 by Eirene29

[Eirene29]

2 hours ago, UrmiUndone said:

 

 Wow did Yuta shave his jaw?

 

I think it's the chin's fault? Why he keeps messing with it? If he's the one messing with it, and it probably is, looks like he's got some psychological issues? Aren't surgeon supposed to advice people to psycotherapy when they are obsessed with their appearance?

[Eirene29]

1 hour ago, Aryu said:

Nayeon's nose is honestly such a tragedy to me, especially because she is so pretty otherwise. She has great proportions, a pretty smile and bright eyes, but I think perhaps her nose job was too great of a change from her original nose.

If you look at her before, she has a hooked nose that is somewhat atypical for Koreans. Her bridge was chiseled down to such a degree that her nose now has a vaguely pig-like effect, since her nostrils stick out more as there is nothing else to look at in the middle of her face. I think it might be good to revisit her nostril and tip placement to figure out how to give her a more refined nose.

In the same group, Sana actually has a nose that has not been shaved down (I believe), preserving her natural bump. Because her profile is slim anyway, it still looks elegant. I really wish we would get over this idea that only straight nose bridges are beautiful; it's clearly not the case.

Reminds me of Leeteuk's nose...he had a hooked nose, which is pretty unique in south koreans I think. And what he did? He got a nose job. 
At least he never hid it, I just wish he didn't he looked so nice and unique. 

[Eirene29]

8 hours ago, zhvero said:

he isn't technically an idol but what do you guys think christian yu (aka dpr ian and also one of the dudes that was in c-clown) did? I was watching his so beautiful mv when it came out and he looked so different. his face looks skinnier/kinda gaunt and he doesn't look like he did 1/2 years before and i just can't figure out what he did

 

 

 

Unless it's an edited pic, in the firs his bridge looks suspiciously high, not sure though. I don't really know the guy.

[Eirene29]

18 hours ago, UrmiUndone said:

From what I see, his mandibular angle did seem to be missing in the recent videos as well (His jaw was still squarish in Kick it stages)

I don't think korean surgeons will suggest psychotherapy to their customers given they receive $$$$ from them. Jokes apart- all these artistes receive pressure from their companies to maintain their looks and most succumb to it. Kinda sad really because body dysmorphia is a real issue and all these incidents do add up. All these trainees leave home young and train hard crazily to achieve success and fame 

I'm pretty sure Korean surgeon are bound by the same or at least similar basic rules the rest of the world's surgeons are. 
Besides that, there are surgeon who accepts money to do whatever the client wants as you said. I mean, look at Bom. 

I've seen a video from GracyGrace and she was talking about surgery and she said most trainees want the surgeries bc they want to be pretty and the company and society makes them believe appearances are everything they need to succeed which is false but yeah whatever. It's like they are brainwashed or maybe i should say naive.

[Eirene29]

4 hours ago, UrmiUndone said:

I am seriously worried tbh. What are the parents doing? I won't let my kid to end up like Chungha or Yuta even if it involves a lot of money and fame as end rewards. Because are these people even mentally healthy right now? 

TBH, most trainees gain attention because of their looks so I see why there would be such a rush in maintaining their looks. But cases like Bom Chungha or even Yuta are way too far off. Disheartening.

I honestly believe some parents are ok with it. And that's fucked up. 

They probably think the prettier and more popular they get the better, I don't think they are aware of the psychological issues. Like most older people, even from my country, they have no grasp of mental health. 

Of course I'm sure there are parents that are more aware and are actually worried for their kid, but they probably can't do anything since they're adults. Plus going to therapy is pretty looked down upon and since their kids are celebs it's even worse. Poor Yuta probably sees his parents two times a year if he's lucky...his parents probably don't even know their kid anymore. 

Even the Aespa girls are worrying...especially the one that completely changed her face.

 

[Eirene29]

15 hours ago, Nctyleggo said:

Lmao which one u talking about

I don't know her name...the one that was discussed the most in here, Karina, was it? Idk their names, but she was the most discussed.

[Eirene29]

13 hours ago, Jyuri~ said:

Soo... this is kinda a recent development and an ongoing situation because fan overreacted (as usual) but recently Felix from Stray Kids posted this on his bubble.

https://twitter.com/mushroomjihoon/status/1346381457808359425

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In case the link doesn't work

There's defiantly been a lot of talks about Felix's look here, more than any other SKZ member, and the consensus was he had some sort of cosmetic enhancement. But he pretty flat out denies that here and attributes it all to weight loss and editing...Tbh I feel inclined to believe him, but I'm probably biased so what do you all think?

 

 

He's sounding like Yesung, that's dangerous territory 

[Eirene29]

2 hours ago, Angelica_mochi said:

Also whoever did Heeseung's ( enhypen ) nose should be in jail. the implant looks jarringly obvious and it does not fit his face at all. Ive also notice that in the given-taken music video, the part where he opens his mouth and howls(?), his chin looks pointy. i think maybe he's also been getting chin filler. his nose is now the most prominent feature on his face since his eyebrows/forehead is quite flat. the chin filler is most likely to balance out his side profile. His new nose reminds me of taehyun's from txt, perhaps they had the same doctor? 

girl...that nose. It looks like my nose actually, wow. 

[Eirene29]

18 hours ago, lighterxx said:

it has been there since i saw tbh, it just got even stronger fake look as time passed, idk maybe he changed the implant he was using, I found his nose at iland fake too but it was more suitable tbh

ends on face tbh, you can have exact same nose but whether it flatters or looks ugly would depend on your other features

thats why when you change nose, whole face looks whole new lol

Yeah I see what you mean. It looks good on me bc It's my natural nose and it just fits my face, but on him? God, that looks as fake as a two dollar banknote. Who the fuck are these surgeons? not very good ones, let me tell you.

Edited January 10, 2021 by Eirene29

[Eirene29]

53 minutes ago, lighterxx said:

I think it's because it's not nosejob to start with its literal implant, implants can look quite unnatural, and that is what happened with him. For some reason most of the members have same nose or very similar nose??? Did BH find their own Dr Kim like???

mmm, yeah implants are weird. I thought most young idols didn't get implants though? I thought it was mostly a thing that older idols had...well, apparently not.
oh man a whole group of similar features...it's becoming a trend again.