Official Plastic Surgery Thread

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Also does anyone else think seulgi (re)did her inner corners? 

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I wonder what jungkook did. When I first noticed he got his implant removed, I realized that he actually had gotten his implant removed long before I had actually realized and it confuses the hell out of me. When I finally realized he got his implant removed was when he had retouched his inner corners too and started messing around with his looks (getting arched brows, longer hair, and in general just changing his image) but idk if redoing his eyes is what changed his face so much (I don't think so). Like he had gotten his implant removed long before and he looked exactly the same, like literally no change whatsoever, but then in 2020 all of a sudden he looked so different. And since then he stopped getting fillers (which made him look really soft), has gone back to basically the same hair, and just looks/style wise is the same as before, but still the slightest bit is off and he doesn't look the same. I don't get it. I really wonder what he did (I kinda really want to know lmao). Maybe its just a combination of all the little things

 

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I don't want to clog the thread with this since its not plastic surgery related so I'll put it under a spoiler

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First, I'm glad we're talking about this because I thought about this a lot a while ago but had nowhere to talk about it. Second, bts DEFINITELY has fake personalities. To this day. 

Jin has literally said how when they first debuted he wasn't allowed to talk and had to stay slient because they wanted him to be 'mysterious' but that wasn't him so he changed. And rn Jins kinda the joker, constantly making jokes/being really fun/(and of course the whole I'm so handsome thing) but he even admitted that's not how he is away from the camera. He does it REALLY WELL but hes (and even the guys) have said how Jin is actually more quiet and reserved off camera. 

Jhope has literally said so many times how his whole happy:), "I'm your hope you're my hope jhope:)" thing isn't how he is and how he WANTS to change it but he's really well known for it and can't. + bts themselves have also said jhope is different off camera and is more serious and stuff (I don't know why armys continue to think that's how he really is even though again he said it isn't and he doesn't like it anymore. Plus I've seen a lot of armys actually say how they saw jhope being really serious in some behind the scenes videos and it 'scared' them/made them think jhopes happy thing isn't real/or that hes really different off camera. but Still believe in the happy thing lmao)

Namjoon's thing has always been the smart philosophical leader thing. He has a high IQ so its like they just took it and ran with it and then never bothered giving him another personality/image. Could be real, could be fake lol.

Yoongi probably does his the best/most natural. He's always been the I don't give a shit, is more quiet and reserved but can get really goofy and cute. He does it very naturally and could be real 

Jimin honestly to me doesn't really have a personality? Besides being cute (or sexy on stage) or just doing whatever to get the most attention, he doesn't really do anything. Jin is funny, jhope is the happy cheerful one, rm is smart, yoongi's chill and jimin.....  Jimin tries to get the most attention. and also is really good at fan service (saying corny things, maybe purposely throwing himself on whichever member people ship him with the most, aegyo, etc). Beyond those things, he really doesn't do anything. He was definitely meant to be the manly sexy one at debut tho. 

Jungkook definitely had the cute maknae image and since he grew up and has started changing his image (tattoos, eyebrow piercing) they are trying to find something else for him. His personality though, he's always acted the same and does it very naturally. He also has himself said he's different when he's alone but he admitted he even keeps that from the bts members too (like talking about his feelings or troubles and stuff). So it just seems like a personal thing as opposed to a fake personality. 

Taehyung had the 4D alien image and HE DID IT SO WELL. Sometimes it was really forced (like he'd say something and it was so obvious he was just saying the most random off the wall shit to be different lmao ) but overall he did it really well and he was so cute and goofy and really pulled it off. Then once he grew up, they kinda don't have a consistent image for him. Now (and especially at award shows and stuff) he's really cold and has a blank face and I guess is suppose to be sexy and mysterious maybe but it doesn't seem completely natural and seems to put people off (I've seen a lot of people say he seems stuck up or like full of himself). But typically, Taehyung pulls off his images (/personality) well. Also, if I'm not mistaken, I'm pretty sure Taehyung has even talked about how he had meetings with the company and they were going to discuss his image (etc) and how he should be for whatever it was he was promoting next. 

I think in general bts are really good at pulling off their images/personalities. They (for the most part) do it very naturally and it can be really hard to know whats really them and what's not. Also this was kinda all over the place and not super in-depth or that good lmao so forgive me nsjdfzg 

 

 

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On 11/3/2021 at 3:54 PM, kaleidostar said:

Not op but I agree that they did. I think even yoongi is getting them too.

 

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Yoongi def gets lip fillers. I'm a lazy to make a completely new post so I'm just going to link my old one

On 12/9/2020 at 3:59 AM, zhvero said:

I don't get that because you're right during their debut time they used to put concealer on jimins lips to make them look smaller but now bts memebers are getting lip fillers.. so ?  but i guess beauty standard have just changed and thats why 

But they get it and for yoongi it was during run era when I realized he gets (started) getting lip injections. Yoongis lips aren't really big. His top lip is on the thinner side and his bottom lip isn't big either but then during run era his lips completely changed. His lips got so much wider and poutier and the shape changed into a totally different one. And then from there small changes would happen sometimes. But, since run, the changes have been usually subtle and small. Nothing too big or over the top for the most part

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The first picture is the picture that made me realize he got lip injections, second and third his lips are equal in thickness and his lips aren't wide anymore, fourth and fifth his lips get wider again and thicker and kind of like run era but not as extreme, sixth his bottom lip is a lot bigger than his top lip (and even though his bottom is naturally bigger than his top lip it isn't that big), and last two his top lip is way bigger than his bottom lip

For taehyung, his lips were nice but were a little small for his face (in length). I don't know when he started doing stuff but I think run is the time his lips were still the same (but there are moments now where his mouth goes back to being shorter in length but does continues being plump and equal in thickness) and then his lips started changing and small differences would happen but it wasn't very obvious and it was always really well done and nice 

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natural and a little small in length and his top lip is a bit bigger than his bottom lip

His lips got wider and started being a lot more plump and equal in thickness. And in the gif and blonde pic below it you can see his top lip is bigger than his bottom lip and in the last picture his lip looks shorter again but still more plump and equal than before. Its never anything really obvious and was done gradually but if you pay attention you can definitely tell his lips changed

 

I also think jungkook has started getting lip injections 

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The first three photos are before pictures and if you look at his top lip you can see the sides/corners of his mouth go in a little and aren't filled out but in the next photos, they're filled out and don't go in/are visible. The last two photos also show that (bottom is before). His bottom lip also seems to be a little more plumper

 

These are some selfies he took where his bottom lip looks so much plumper and the middle of his top lip looks really pouty/bloated but I don't know if he edits his selfies though so .. 

So yeah bts members do stuff to their lips 

Heres an additional one I made about Taehyung 

On 6/21/2021 at 9:37 PM, zhvero said:

Saw this gif and it really shows how Taehyung's lips change:

Super wide but thin

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And then compared to slightly shorter in length but plump 

And then to like here where his top lip is big but all of a sudden his bottom is smaller/thinner (and his top and bottom lip aren't equal in size anymore)

   

I know I made a post about Taehyung's (and Jungkook's and Yoongi's) lip fillers and the Taehyung part wasn't too good (I used to many new pictures of him) but I do think he get lip fillers. Its really subtle and if you didn't see him everyday/follow him for years, you could easily miss it 

I feel like Yoongi and Taehyung may be the ones who have been getting it the longest and most consistent. 

(Personally I also think jungkook gets lip fillers. His are really subtle though which makes sense because Jungkooks lips are really particular so if he went overboard with the lip filler it would be really obvious so he kind of has no choice but to be super subtle if he doesn't want anyone to notice)

 

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On 11/12/2021 at 10:52 PM, Sarah Oon said:

Besides her nose, I don't think Winter's surgeries were that extreme? If you look at her predebut photos from middle school. She always had big eyes, double eyelids and a some what V-shape jaw.  Unless I'm missing something else.

 

On 11/12/2021 at 11:25 PM, AstroBaby said:

I just meant her nose job was too extreme not her face in general 

I feel the same way. I think Winter has a too perfect look now, and its because of her nose (everything else actually looks pretty subtle/natural). Her nose is just way too perfect looking and doesn't fit her face, if they had given her a more natural (and suitable to her face) nose, Winter would look natural and not at all plastic

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21 hours ago, miwa201 said:

Anyone else feel like V has been doing some stuff to his face lately? I'm thinking of fillers specifically bc his face looks less defined than it used to be (and sometimes a bit doughy tbh). His nose also seems a bit off.

I think he may use fillers too, but for the opposite reason. He uses them to get a really chiseled manly/masculine look (more defined cheekbone area and jawline) than when his face is less defined, thats how his face actually looks. But, again, not 100% certain about his face (his jaw is really obvious though). I feel the exact same way about his nose. When you just glance at it it seems fine and looks good but if you actually really pay attention to it, its kinda off and actually seems a tad bit too small for his face. And I wonder how thats gonna age since nose job noses actually shrink with age.

11 hours ago, gam3 bo1 said:

i'm so bad with specifics in plastic surgery, i can only really notice changes in the face physically but not specific procedures and all that so correct me if this isn't the case BUT i know people have discussed jungkook having an implant in his nose and i think this pic that i just saw and is new is another example of it being noticeable?

Literally yesterday I saw a picture of him and was thinking how you can see something in his nose 

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Heres the same picture but with my shitty circle 

Also I do want to acknowledge that this is a selfie so it can be altered 

You can clearly see a weird thing in his nose (and its definitely not contour or a shadow). I thought Jungkook took his implant out and has only been using filler for a while now but idk lol. He's just always messing with his nose

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18 hours ago, happysoxdonkey said:

I feel like sometime around 2019-20 he got a lot of work done that didn’t improve his appearance for the better.  His initial nose and eye work was subtle enough to still left some individuality to his appearance. The more recent work gave him a bit of an uncanny look.  

Personally I don't think he has an uncanny look. He still looks natural and really good. But 2020 is when he started messing with his face. I don't think he got any actual surgery but he started to get a lot of filler to get the really masculine look and to me it was really successful lol. He looked incredible. But if there is one thing I think he messed with too much it is his nose. Its not the worst nose job but it could've of been a lot better. Especially if he just left it alone after the initial work 

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idk why those pictures of jimin made me think of when someone fills their lips too much (or its badly done) and gets a lip filler mustache/shadow 

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Kinda something like this 

Not saying thats 100% the situation or anything but just I saw those pictures and immediately thought of this 

Also that 2018 thread and post @Zaralei made are unintentionally good at showing Yoongis subtle nose changes 

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On 6/11/2021 at 11:07 AM, zhvero said:

It's the best type of work to get. And, Kyungsoo got a nose job

This ones blurry but good at showing what his nose looked like

I also think he may have had some corner work

I think Kyungsoo may have had two nose jobs (which I also thought when I made my original post but I wasn't completely sure so I didn't mention it). But there is the obvious difference between his pre debut and current nose but theres even a difference between his debut nose (1st nose job/work) and his current nose (2nd time touching his nose). 

His debut nose was really wide and kind of flat and had some structure/shape to the bridge and tip but it was very faint. Where as now his bridge is slight more raised and he actually has more of a nose tip/shape and his nose isn't as wide (his nose before was very flat and it nose tip kind of blended into his nose). Here are gifs I feel like really show what his nose looked before. 

       

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And then him now with his nostrils brought in and more shape to his bridge + tip

(ik hes smiling here but his tip/bridge is different)

 

idk but I feel like he may have touched his nose more than once 

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On 2/13/2022 at 6:00 PM, Jikrytae said:

Just compare the rates and cultural views in each country. With South Korea, we're talking about a country where more than a quarter of the populations in major cities has had plastic surgery. You're not going to find anything like that elsewhere, not even in another major outlier like LA, although I don't think either comparison is appropriate here. It's not like she's from Taiwan's equivalent of LA, where everyone purposely goes seeking fame. That cultural influence wouldn't be present. Your hypothetical is also nigh impossible, as it would have needed to be done even earlier, before she even left for Korea, with her mother acting preemptively, having no idea what JYP even thinks yet. The logic just isn't there. It also doesn't even address the accusations that she's been getting boat loads of work done post-debut. 

I don't see the relevance. Taeyeon was already getting work done when Karina was still in nappies, and I seriously doubt SM even tries telling her what to do at this point. That's all her. 

 

On 2/11/2022 at 6:41 PM, Jikrytae said:

There is no "proof" contained within this thread, only speculation, which is exactly what you're doing now, speculating. You don't know that she's had plastic surgery any more than they know that she hasn't. That said, I've still yet to see a convincing argument that she isn't natural, and your "look at this person on another site who is clearly wrong!" non-argument isn't doing anything to change that. 

 

I'm afraid you're going to have to be (a lot) more specific. As I showed a few pages back, her nose has been shaped like this since childhood. 

 

On 2/12/2022 at 3:04 AM, Jikrytae said:

Are there visible changes? Because I don't see any other than what's likely typical, natural aging (and weight loss.) You're supposed to convince me that there are irrefutable, visible changes that aren't natural, not bemoan the fact that they aren't obvious enough to be irrefutable, thereby proving my point in the process. If you can't somehow prove beyond any doubt that it's anything more than mere speculation, then you can't expect me to accept it as anything more than that. Being overly sure of yourself without providing anything to back it up, other than recycling the unconvincing arguments of another OH user who likes to exaggerate, isn't doing you any favors. I know you came in here fully expecting everyone to give you a standing ovation for showing us all how "delulu" another random person on the Internet is for not believing your unverified opinions, but that isn't how this works. So yes, I'm going to continue "denying" it, because you've given me no reason not to. And you won't tell me more, because you're not willing to make the effort, you just want to be snarky and use this subject to get one over on people. Toxic behavior. 

 

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Ok, so please ignore the stupid premise of the video, but I was on youtube and this short came up and. wow. It immediately made me realize (remember) just how much work Jungkook has gotten done. its so good at showing just how much hes changed

Like just surgery's, you can tell hes gotten (multiple) lateral canthoplasties to really open up his eyes and make them bigger, a blepharoplasty and double eyelid surgery to remove the heavyness on his lids and give him double eyelids, an epicanthoplasty (multiple possibly) to bring in his inner corners and give him a different shape and then multiple nose jobs

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And then nonsurgical, and not in the video, he gets lip fillers + (occasional) chin filler and I think he may actually get jawline filler too to define his jaw more

His work, for the most part, is really natural and good but I feel bad. Jungkook debuted at 15 and hes gotten so much done 

Also I am not a jikook-er and am a little offended youtube thinks I ship people 

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11 hours ago, DDiddy said:

A question, how can you tell he gets chin fillers? can you find some before and after pics and explain? I don't think I read it in this thread before, so I'm genuinly curious.

I think he gets chin filler because Jungkook's chin is soft and blunt but pretty often* his chin has more projection and becomes a little more pointed 

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Its not always this ^^ dramatic though. typically its a lot more subtle like below

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first pic looks edited so take it with a grain of salt but you see how its so subtle 

just the tiniest bit more projection

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Sorry if this is a little all over the place I had to make it quickly but yeah its not dramatic and looks good. nothing like the usual chin filler/dorito chin. 

 

ALSO you ever think about how Jungkook used to have a cleft chin but now its been years since we've really seen it?? 

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where did it go ????? 

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"It would be very uncommon to have a distinct facial feature like a vertical chin cleft to just disappear. There really is known no explanation as a chin cleft represents a distinct defect in the underlying tissues. It can be surgically recreated if desired although it may not look exactly like it did before."

 "Chin surgery can either remove a cleft chin or reduce the size of the dimple. Both are usually done with a chin implant that's designed to fill in the dimple."

 

 

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On 2/24/2022 at 3:18 AM, gam3 bo1 said:

i've never actually noticed that jungkook had a cleft chin and i became a fan in 2017 which seems to be the latest time he had it as shown by these pics so he must've had that change just after i became a fan and i haven't noticed it in combination of not paying as much attention and also most of the jungkook content i've seen being post-cleft chin era 

i did some searching on twitter to see if anyone else had noticed it and found this which was interesting, do you know what might of happened here....? i must stress i'm not well versed on actual procedures at all, if i notice something i'll comment on it but i don't know much outside of that lmao.

 

I looked it up and you can get filler as one of the ways to get rid of cleft chin but tbh I'm not sure if thats what Jungkook did or even does. Like when I was going through pictures for my post I realized Jungkook gets filler a lot more than I thought but you can still find some times where he doesn't have filler and kind of still has a cleft chin so I immediately wanted to say he gets chin filler to give more projection AND get rid of his cleft chin but I don't think thats the case. Paying more attention a lot of the (recent) pics I saw where his chin didn't have filler he still didn't have his cleft chin so I'm not completely sure lol. I'm not sure if he did something to soften it or if its the filler getting rid of it 

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Like just as one example he doesn't have filler in this video but his cleft chin is gone so idk. Maybe its filler or maybe he did do something surgical

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I just realized this is also some shipper shit. Jungkook just looks so good though

In regards to the video that kinda looks like a chin dimples to me? I don't have a cleft chin but if I do some facial expressions (mostly involving my lips) I can get my chin to look similar to that 

On 2/24/2022 at 3:21 AM, DDiddy said:

Wow the changes are quite subtle, enough to barely be noticed, you have very sharp eyes haha also the fact tho that his cleft chin just randomly dissapeared is such a strong confirmable proof that he gets cosmetic enhancements done. 

Lmao I kinda love when things like that happen because it blows my mind that people (read: normal fans) still don't realize an idol has gotten something done. Take Yoongi for example, when he debuted no one really commented on his eyes then there came a point where all anyone could talk about was how (all of a sudden) his eyes were so beautiful and unique and cat like THEN all of a sudden that was gone and nobody said or realized anything (also lowkey happening with his gummy smile). Like a distinct facial feature all of a sudden goes away (or even appears) and no one takes that as a sign that hey. Maybe my fav idol gets things done to their face 

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16 hours ago, DDiddy said:

What do you mean distinct features such as his gummy smile or cat eyes are gone? Did he change them somehow?

A lot of fans don't want their idol to get surgery or enhancement because that would destroy the illusion that the idols are naturally perfect. I bet a lot of them pick it up subconciously but don't actually want to believe it. Plus PS is still pretty stigmatized especially by international fans

 

8 hours ago, DDiddy said:

god damn I just found a reddit post from 3 YEARS AGO stating that Yoongi lost his gummy smile by BWL era, jesus I never noticed  . I’ve also tried to look for before and after pictures of his eyes but I can’t really see a big difference, anyone got some good pictures? 

Yeah he did. For his gummy smile a while ago I think he did something to his (two) front teeth to make them bigger and help have some less exposure of his gums/less of a gummy smile. I know I made a post about it when I first realized and someone said he could've gotten gum reduction and i think thats probably what happened too. For his eyes, when Yoongi debuted he had normal looking eyes. There was nothing 'special' or 'unique' about them, then a couple years after debut and I think when Yoongi may have gotten his first epicanthoplasty he eyes got this really pretty and unique ('cat') look then when he did his inner corners again the newer surgery completely took away that really pretty effect and made his eyes normal looking again. idk if you remember around 2017? or so everyone always talking about how pretty and unique Yoongi's eye were but then a while later no one talked about that anymore. His eyes just completely lost that effect. Thats what I mean. Sometimes an idol gets or loses (like Jungkooks cleft chin for example) a distinct feature and that doesn't raise any flags for anybody

For Beyonce, she never had a super deep skin tone to begin with. She was always on the (lighter) brown side and I feel like with a lot of people with a skin tone like that its super easy for them to get lighter or darker just depending on how much sun exposure their getting. Also for the second comparison pic its super obvious they whitewashed the shit out of her in that picture (I know there was even a thing about that in around 2009 where they lightened her skin so much in a covergirl photo shoot and everyone was calling it out)

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16 hours ago, jeonginrs said:

He still has a cleft chin although it's rarely visible now. I'm guessing it's because of the filler + ppl tend to over smooth and whitewash his skin in most pictures. 

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Makes me wonder though, is cleft chin viewed as unattractive in SK?

Yeah thats exactly why I didn't want to say he got rid of it or anything. You can still see it sometimes but I also found a lot of videos and stuff where he didn't have filler and still didn't have his cleft chin so I wasn't sure if he actually did anything or if it was just the filler covering it up most of the time. I'm glad he hasn't seemed to have gotten rid of it. It was always super cute and fit him 

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And I wouldn't be shocked if it was seen as unattractive in SK. Any feature that doesn't seem 'perfect' or fit their exact ideals is usually considered ugly, and I doubt a 'weird' or 'unordinary' feature like a cleft chin is seen as cute 

 

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8 hours ago, Naevis is my mom said:

On the topic of celebrities watching plastic surgery vids about themselves, do you guys think any K-POP company lurks on here? Because if they do... Hi Bighit, I'm a fifty year old army named Bob. 

Me and all the shit I've said 

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19 hours ago, beloved said:

That’s so weird I never even thought she had surgery on her nose given how not-kpop-polished-like it looks. Her nose looks really natural like a white persons nose. I actually was wondering why she never got surgery to make it smaller and less beak like since all the other members have perfect noses, but i guess she did. It looks like her surgery did the opposite and made it even bigger and hooked in the nostrils. I like her natural nose better it suited her face really well, now when I look the first thing I notice is her nose. 

Jisoo’s nose looks exactly the same. Her nostril on one side is smaller than the other and it recently started appearing that way. A lot of knetz were saying she got a nose job around 2 years ago but people shot it down saying one of her nostrils was always smaller so I’m not sure. When she poses and shows off her nostrils you can see the nostril is smaller on one side. I definitely notice it a lot more now, don’t know if she’s always had it

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About the lip corner talk on the previous page, I also don't think the surgery is that common. I feel like every time an idol has lifted lip corners a lot of people in this thread are quick to immediately say they got the surgery but I don't think thats the case. I feel like a lot of people forget you could easily get a lifted corner look from lip fillers too and not just surgery (also some people can actually just be born with it too like Johnny for example where everyone immediately thinks he got it but if you look at old pictures you can see his lips have always looked like that. But thats slightly besides the point). Like a lot of people are like this idol got lip fillers and all of a sudden has lifted corners! They got lip fillers and the surgery, when most likely (in my opinion at least) if they got lip fillers too, they most likely just got their corners lifted with the lip filler too. I'm not saying no one has ever got or doesn't get the surgery done, but I don't think its as common as some people make it out to be. I feel like with how much lip filler idols have been getting, they've just been using the filler too to get the lifted look. 

 

On 3/12/2022 at 11:44 AM, Solfa said:

And it’s outright impossible if you also kill fat cells with things like carboxy shots or coolsculpting too. Remember how Yuri used to be skinny-curvy, now she is just skinny. That was a cosmetic procedure. 

I'd love if you could elaborate on that 

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2 hours ago, exodus05 said:

Kim Sejeong, Yeji, NCT Jaehyun & Jungwoo have that lip corner thing right? I could see it from RV Yeri as well.

Some of those just look like lip filler to me. And the suspicious pictures I found looked heavily edited. But even if I was wrong and they did, thats a small number of idols who did the surgery out of the hundreds of active idols 

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16 hours ago, jeonginrs said:

Posting idols old and more recents gifs comparison cause i'm bored

Taehyung

Nayeon

Nayeon has a completely different face shape. Her strong cheekbones are gone and her lower half is different too 

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2 hours ago, chewyandminnie said:

kpoprocedure posted idols with subtle rhinoplasties:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CcGwwFgJokl/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

doyeon has been regarded as natural by some users here, but apparently she's had one too. 

Thats interesting because i had actually been wondering if Seulgi had another nose job 

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20 hours ago, exodus05 said:

wowwww, all hybe boy group noses were also done to the girls. 

Edited April 14, 2022 by zhvero

[zhvero]

On 4/29/2022 at 4:37 PM, Lyanna15171 said:

The main difference between fillers and bloating/weight gain is that fillers make the skin look really smooth and unnaturally tight and shiny when applied to the cheeks and forehead. Skin can also become tight and shiny like that due to swelling from some sort of infection, but that's unlikely and would be very obviously not filler. For lips, it's common to see puffiness directly around the mouth area as the filler migrates and is pushed around due to mouth movements. That's what contributes to the look that mouth is swollen or irritated. Its also extremely rare for a person to have a top lip that is thicker than the bottom lip. Excessive filler also occasionally forms hard lumps or masses under the skin, which isn't super common but I have seen some idols that kind of look like that. 

This is probably just a minute detail, but it's not extremely rare. The vast majority of people do have lips where their top and bottom lip is the same size, or more common, their bottom lip is bigger than their top, but just because someone has a top lip thats bigger than their bottom lip isn't an extremely rare thing that barely ever happens and if someone has that you can or should assume its possibly filler. My top lip is bigger than my bottom lip and I've met quite a few people where their top lip is bigger too and I know for a fact we haven't had filler. Just a small detail but I thought it should be pointed out

Edited May 2, 2022 by zhvero

[zhvero]

Speaking of boob jobs does anyone think Momo may have gotten one? I have no doubt she probably wears push up/padded bras to make them seem even bigger but even when you see her actual boobs they seem fuller (like theres actual more boob there). I know someone said before they thought Sana may have gotten hers done, but when you look at her you can see that its just an illusion. From the front they look big but when you see her actual chest/the area above her chest, its still flat, her bras only making them look bigger. With Momo thats not the case, she actually seems like she has more boob. And Momos lost a lot of weight/never fully got back to how she was at debut so it cant be that. 

I'd like to know what everyone thinks and if any one agrees or not 

Edited July 28, 2022 by zhvero