Official Plastic Surgery Thread

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On 3/15/2021 at 7:27 AM, meeeplet said:

Chaeyoung and Jihyo look free from invasive procedures to me but they may have had subtle fillers/botox here and there.

Wait twice chaeyoung? She's had a jaw shave, her jaw goes right up to her ear 

I also think she may have had a minor nose job too

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Jihyo's lip fillers are so nice. Giving her lips more width (with a little more plumpness) really helped her and made her more prettier 

I know some if these pictures aren't the best (shes smiling or pursing her lips, etc but I used them as comparisons to see what her lips looked like before when she did that and what they look like now when she does it) but it was so hard finding good pictures. Anyway her lip fillers are nice and shes so pretty 

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On 3/20/2021 at 8:09 AM, meeeplet said:

I was checking out the debut of DSP's new boy group (the one with Son Dongpyo) and I couldn't help but notice that one of the members looks like he may have had the one of the harshest epicanthoplasties I've ever seen. There aren't any predebuts, but his eyes corners now look like this:

Kinda reminds me of Yoongi in this picture (but its a dispatch photo so what can you say. Though they didn't need to do him that dirty)

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6 hours ago, Nctyleggo said:

Onto Tzuyu and what I think she’s had done:

PRE-SIXTEEN PROCEDURES:

 

Puberty does a lot of things. A round baby face may become more chiselled. A jaw may become more defined. Your overall face matures.

It definitely won’t tuck your nostrils in and change the entire structure of your nose. You won’t get a droopy columella that wasn’t there, or deep double eyelids from barely a hood. The pouty lips you had as a baby won’t get any bigger.

Tzuyu’s original nose was flat and slightly upturned, with flared nostrils and a fairly straight bridge. I believe she had a rhinoplasty into her early adolescence, which included an alarplasty and the insertion of a implant that added height to her nosebridge and made it more shapenly, a mix between an arch and a ski-slope, which put pressure onto the tip of her nose and caused the columella to hang.

She also had a lot of fat atop her eyelids, and, since the changes seem to have ocurred in a fairly short period of time, I think she had a blepharoplasty as well.

BU- BUT SHE LOOKS JUST LIKE HER MOTHER!

Her mother owns a goddamned plastic surgery clinic and has admitted to getting PS herself. She actually looks more like Tzuyu now than she did originally.

POST SIXTEEN:

—Eyes

Tzuyu’s epicanthoplasty goes without saying. There’s more tear duct exposure, the inner corners of her eyes are way more rounded and they go deeper in.

Tzuyu’s naturally beautiful eye shape seems to have been changed as well. She had an extremely positive tilt of her eyes’ canthus; a sharp and almost animalesque upward tug. In recent years, however, that uniqueness seems to have been faded, and traded for less sharply upturned and longer almond eyes via reshaping her outer eye corners with lateral canthoplasty.

I also think she’s had her eyelids clipped yet again, to account for the higher crease she sports nowadays.

— Nose

Tzuyu has definitely had a change to her nose postdebut. I think her previous ski-sloped nose implant has been replaced by one who gives her and outwardly sloped bridge with some added height to it. This means she has had a second rhinoplasty.

I also think she got a second alarplasty and got her nostrils tucked in a second time. She has some scarring left from this procedure.

 

The new implant put even more pressure onto the tip of her nose, making her columella even more droopy. It sits in an unnatural way. There have been occasions when it’s become warped as well. In this pics, as well as the former, there’s visible scarring around the alars.

 

 

— Lips

I don’t know what it was that made Tzuyu’s lips go from extremely thin pre-Sixteen to just very thin. In her post debut, however, there’s a noticeable difference to their extension and volume that can only be explained by subtle lip fillers.

I also think she’s had botox injected between her nose and upper lip to prevent it from rolling inwards when smiling.

 

— Teeth

I think Tzuyu’s teeth are her own, but she’s had braces to correct their alignment and whitening treatments to lighten them up.

 

I also think Tzuyu’s undergone obvious skin whitening procedures, the changes not being quite as drastic as most people make them out to be. She still retains a healthy golden hue and slight tan. Her darkish tone from earlier days has gone, though.

The subtle changes to her face shape and fat distribution can be attributed to aging. They’ve happened gradually. 
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me and @Nctyleggo when we see each other at the mental hospital for saying the same thing about tzuyu 

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Momos cheeks look like they're about to burst in this photo 

 

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2 hours ago, loveablejoy said:

? Momo has always have cheeks like that tho. We know she has an fillers here & there. And why bring up photos from years ago? Have there been any recent change? And why post a pic when she looks like she in the middle of moving her lips/cheeks?

Why am I getting interrogated lmao. I came across that photo and I'd never seen it before and it shocked me because of how filled her face looks (momo's always had prominent cheeks but not in that way) and I know a long time ago there was a debate on whether she gets face fillers or not and that picture made me realize just how much she gets so I decided to post it. I wasn't trying to make her look bad or anything 

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2 hours ago, abra said:

That's not 100% true. Japan's most popular female celebrities aren't young or have childish faces.

Ishihara Satomi

wow she is stunning 

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Ok I could definitely be wrong but wouldn't idols actually prefer a hair transplant? It's not that idols can't just have a big forehead but for a lot of idols their hairline is messed up/uneven. They bleach it so much and they start getting bald spots (especially at the side at the top. So many idols have bald spots there), a receding hairline and thus a bigger forehead, etc. So, for a lot of them, its not just that they have a big forehead  but their hairline isn't even either. So, wouldn't they want to fix their uneven hairline along with making their forehead smaller.

Like take Yoongi for example, its pretty well known he had a really messed up hairline and his hairline was really pushed back, then all of a sudden he (and Taehyung too) had this really nice hairline that was not only a lot father down/not high but straight, filled out, and even.

Again, not saying some don't just have a big forehead but for most of them they have a big forehead and an uneven hairline. So, wouldn't a hair transplant be the best thing to do? (And I don't really think money would be an issue for them. They aren't all crazy rich but considering all of their surgeries and how their company probably pays for it, I don't think its too much of an issue). Lmao I don't know if this makes sense, I'm kinda rambling 

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12 hours ago, lighterxx said:

When you get hair transplant you should know that hair comes from somewhere aka back of your head, close to nape where baldness at that area won't show much. So your solution for constant bleached hair making you bald will be transplanting already fragile from bleaching hair to bald spots. Not only to bald spots but also take somehow many of them to move them to forehead. Also these might not hold on as well meaning you will be bald at nape for absolutely no reason. For commoners it's not an issue it's not like they get wildly creative hair styles, for idols they do get wildly creative hair styles. 

Forehead reducing would move your skin instead of follicles so no harm in hair follicles. For bald spots depending on their size you can try hair transplant as an idol. But covering whole forehead? That would require alot of moving. 

Yeah I know how the procedure works and ur right, but its not like their hair is pushed back an extreme amount (usually). So I don't understand getting such an extreme procedure when your hairline only needs to be moved down a little. Also though, you can see some extreme results with just hair transplant 

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the next pictures there's blood and tiny holes and its nasty so warning 

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As you can see in the last pictures they can easily hide where they take the hair (and they don't even need to take a lot of hair if it's not an extreme case which makes the hiding even easier). They just take the follicles and ur other longer hair easily covers the area of the surgery (and especially in the last picture, once your wounds heal and even a tiny bit of hair grows back in, no one would be able to tell anything). And regards to the actual hair, they can shave ur hair and you can just turn it into an undercut + the hair at the very root is usually healthy(er). iirc when yoongi got his (and I'm not disregarding that yoongi couldn't have gotten a forehead reduction and a hair transplant too. That very well may be the case for him and taehyung) wasn't it around daechwita when yoongi got an undercut where they could've shaved him for the surgery and he just got an undercut to disguise/cover it. And if he hadn't touched his hair in a while his root hair wouldn't be in bad condition 

idk it seems extreme, I hope idols don't just get it casually

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It's criminal the way they treat Jungyeon. She's literally so gorgeous and is such a talented singer (one of the best in the group) but she gets no lines, gets pushed to the back, and gets the most unattractive outfits/styling. Nothings done to showcase her/put her out there or help her get a bigger fanbase which is so annoying. She's so talented and amazing and is (basically) getting wasted for nothing. Like for what whats the reason 

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You can get fillers to give you a smile or lifted corner look. I remember I was watching this video and the girl was talking about procedures she’s done and she said how she got lip fillers to her corners to lift them and help with her resting bitch face. I always figured that was something you can do with lip filler, since in general theres so much you can do with it, and that kind of just solidified it for me. And, it looked really amazing and natural on her too. 

Also, I feel like a few idols say they lost a ton of weight but they just got a jaw shave. Of course, a ton of idols do just lose a lot of weight, but I feel like a few get a jaw shave (or lose weight and also do a little something to their jaw) and say they lost weight to account/hide their change. Like for example, for Yoojung when she got her surgery I remember seeing a video of her saying she lost 30 pounds in a month and thats why she looks so different and doesn't have a chubby face anymore, but it really was just her jaw work. I also feel like the best time to do a little work is when you were "chubby" then lose a lot of weight. Like joy, jihyo, the girl from I think gfriend, etc. They all look so good (or maybe they just had quality work). 

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On 4/8/2021 at 1:32 AM, UrmiUndone said:

do you think jihyo did a jaw shave?

I don't think so, but if she did its minimal

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7 hours ago, sooa_t said:

never noticed how long karina's neck is

Her jaw shave gave her this weird effect where cutting off a lot of her jaw made her neck look a lot longer and her head weirdly disproportionate from the rest of her body (it makes her head look way too small for her body and kinda disconnected from it). It looks a lot better when shes wearing a turtle neck or big necklaces that can help hide it. It was discussed a lot before. Poor girl 

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1 hour ago, Hexox said:

I mean Koreans love having long neck + small head so I'd say she's pretty cool with it

Yeah I hope so but still you can't help but notice it. And since it isn't organic it can look pretty off. I just hope she isn't bothered by it 

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@Jykritae every time we talk about tzuyu and he immediately needs to show up to start something 

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Anyway actually being serious, Jennie has some of the best work. It just completely elevated her looks from average to beautiful. And I think it really goes to show how good and successful getting work done that only enhances your features is as opposed to completely trying to change your face/trying to fit all these beauty standards that may not work with your features. Like she just got these little tweaks here and there and it made her look so good. She wasn't trying to turn into someone else or make all here features exactly fit the beauty standards, she just 'fixed' a few things and it worked out so well. The girl looks so good

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12 hours ago, Jikrytae said:

Do you feel better now after getting that tantrum out of your system? The fact that you even went out of your way to look through my previous posts is pretty amusing. You must have A LOT of free time. Unfortunately it was all for naught, as I never said I hadn't posted anything judgmental myself, so your accusations of hypocrisy sadly miss the mark.  Ultimately this only served to show everyone the lengths you'll go to in service of your obsession, further proving my point.

Because they don't know what they're talking about, and they presumptuously assume that everyone in kpop MUST have rearranged their entire face and then work from there, like a baby who won't be satisfied until they can shove the square peg into the round hole. So they keep trying... again... and again... and again... and again... 

I think it's a damaged pride thing.

Wow king you’re so amazing and insightful. Thank you for enlightening us

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20 hours ago, loonasatellite said:

let me start by saying i love haseul she is my complete ult bias. 

with her hiatus coming to a close i worry she is going to come back with some kind of surgery she has mentioned in the past not liking her eyes but overcoming this and now seeing her eyes as a charming point. i know in the past she has done some filler, especially nose tip filler. 

the top are some old photos, and the bottom two are most recent. its unfortunate theyre selfies bc so much editing can go on but do you see anything? i really have a bad eye for this sort of thing haha. 

She did her inner corners, before she had no exposure of her tear ducts and now they're really exposed. I think her outer corners are also possible 

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Am I losing it or does Jungkooks nose look a little different in the recent run bts episode (140)?

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Ok I took screenshots but for the life of me I can't figure out how to upload them but it was from 9:09 to 9:14 (the part where Jungkook messed up in the game and no one noticed but he still stood up) that made me realize. If you pause the video and look at him you'll see his nose looks a bit bigger/bulkier at the tip and even droops now, which it didn't do at all after he got his implant removed. The video itself looks recent too because of their hairstyles. So, what's going on? Is Jungkook trying to get his nose to look like it did before (via filler) without getting an actual implant inserted again? 

 

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38 minutes ago, lighterxx said:

this one?

https://giant.gfycat.com/GiantNippyDassierat.mp4

i will say... maybe? what he aims is basically so hard to mimic tho, a bit bulkier and nose tip going down look is a bit more popular now maybe he is trying to return something closer to his original nose tip to immitate that, but i doubt it is doable. 

maybe its something completely different tho, i realized it looks really smooth? round bridge area? it looked less so beforehand if i dont misremember 

Yes! I wish I could upload my screenshots but if you look at the video and pause it at different times, his nose it doesn't look like this anymore

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His nose droops now whereas it didn't before like in the pics. But it's always been pretty smooth tho 

I agree. It would be really hard to get his nose to look the way it did before without actually just getting another implant put in. Maybe he realizes that his new nose doesn't fit his face as well as his old nose (with the implant) and for whatever reason isn't getting another implant but still trying to get the look? I'm not sure but Jungkook sure has messed with his nose a lot so I hope he doesn't keep messing with it and start getting complications or something (maybe thats why he had the implant removed in the first place) 

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On 5/10/2021 at 2:56 PM, KentasGlittery EyeMakeup said:

She has naturally arched eyebrows and whoever did her brows clearly wanted to change the shape to those straight, short eyebrows that Koreans are so obsessed about (which really don't suit everybody, her being the perfect example). They overplucked them so they could reshape them and they did a really bad job. These kind of eyebrows suit her face, but they wanted those damn straight eyebrows on her so bad.

I want to know who keeps doing her brows so badly. Everyone's brows always look good, and then hers are stamped on or filled out too much, etc.

Hyoyeon went through a similar transformation.

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lr6j8jHyMw1r0k5kko1_500.png

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lr68tmEyA61qfcoawo1_250.png

The recent trend for the last couple years has actually been more natural eyebrows that are your natural shape which is why you see a lot less idols with those super harsh straight brows and some with arches and stuff, so idk why they keep insisting on giving her those brows 

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1 hour ago, lighterxx said:

I realized why it appeared more smooth, I missed the point where he removed the implant, what I describe as not as smooth is implant itself on tip lol, otherwise his nose seems tinier? now. Maybe that was the aim instead of going back, him slowly changing his nose shape without causing any gossip among fandoms? I definitely see what you are talking about tho, it feels a bit like balloon going down, idk how to explain lol 

For image upload you can try imgbb, imgur makes troubles for me these days so I use that 

 

Yeah after he got the implant removed his nose was smaller and even now it still looks small but the tip is different. I'm not completely sure what you mean, but honestly no one even noticed his nose job.. when he got the implant or when it was even removed

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My screenshots are bad but it was hard taking them but his nose like I said before is different at the tip. Before (after removing the implant and seemingly not doing anything else to his nose) his nose was short and didn't droop and now it's bigger at the tip and it droops. It actually kinda looks like an in-between his implant nose and his implant free nose. If you watch the run bts episode its easier to see, but his nose is still overall smaller but has the big tip and droop. Like he took some things from both noses and made a new one (smaller not as big or high but still being bulky at the tip). 

Thank you for letting me know! 

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1 hour ago, lighterxx said:

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Sorry for me speaking in a confused manner I slept whole day away and still a bit dazed lol 

Otherwise, fans if they are stubborn enough can be completely blind to any change. I saw people thinking everything is natural when it is so obvious - even when you can see from a mile- so them not noticing him doing tiny tweaks constantly to his nose would surely be impossible to notice unless you are like us, who actively notice ps and actually be conscious of its existence lol. Mix small ps with a radical hair change too, fans will only thing your hair style is causing a change, not a surgery. 

 

Otherwise, his nose ATM, after watching video again and again, is not too much like his old nose but more like one of the TXT members, Taehyun I think? His nose really remind me him now. Maybe it's the same doctor. It's only smaller and less ski slope. From plus side while he frequently makes changes he didn't so far messed anything up. I don't suggest him to make any more change tho rip, nose is a sensitive area to start with even without any change

Its okay lol. Doing small tweaks is the best way to go but honestly even if an idol does big changes fans are still completely oblivious and don't notice. So, I don't think he needs to be as subtle, but I'm glad he's being smart and is. 

The shape/look of their noses are similar, but they really did that Taehyun guy dirty. His nose looks really obvious while at least Jungkooks looks natural. I think Jungkook is at a point where whatever he does now is crucial. Up until this point virtually everything's hes done hasn't been bad (the last epicanthoplasty being unnecessary and, personally, I think his last nose job too) and he still looks good, but if he were to continue doing all these small unnecessary tweaks he can mess up his face. I feel like now is the point for him to stop and really consider if anything else he does will actually be worth it. 

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I definitely see what you're thinking, I can't tell for sure though because he's moving his face a lot on the video, but I suppose we'll see in Butter teaser pics/video.

Tbh if he's trying to get his older nose back I'm glad, because I really don't like his second nose job. They just cut the tip off, and made his philtrum/face balance a bit off.

Also I think his fillers deflated thank god. He's too cute to mess with his face.

Yeah the video seems recent but we still don't know just how recent so the comeback will be the only way to know. I feel bad saying this, but I hope so too. We don't know why he got his implant removed (whether he just wanted to or if it was causing him problems) but I do think his older nose fit him a lot better. He kinda just needs to stop playing with his face. Everything he keeps doing is unnecessary, he looks good already. 

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9 hours ago, pjihoon said:

Overall, I don’t think YG forces ps onto their idols (not to sound like YG stan, because I’m not sorry ). For example, Jennie has several surgeries but she still retains her natural beauty. I don’t believe anyone in IKON has ps besides from Jinhwan. 

Treasure also has this image of being variety idols, so maybe YG doesn’t think they need to look picture perfect all the time. 

I think it's more so the way companies make their idols get surgery or like the style kind of. Its like jyp, yg, bighit (only with bts) made their idols get surgeries, but surgeries that enhance their looks and take their looks further (retaining your uniqueness/look but just looking better), whereas sm makes their idols get unnecessary procedures and strives for this unrealistic check all the ideals perfect look. 

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23 hours ago, meowmeowmeow123 said:

halsey is 163 apparently, he looks 173ish?here he is wearing baggier clothes, but he looks really big 

Like his body is just big and long at times. I always compare heights to my irl guy friends, and I don't know any man thats 173 and has jks proportions if you feel me? It's mind tricking to me because my guy friends that are around 178-9 have exactly his proportions - but I know he isn't of that height definitely. He gives off 175-6 vibe to me let's say. He confuses me a bit.                                                    

*by proportions i also mean his overall presence and the space he takes up

I feel the same way too, about Jungkook and about Taehyung. Like when I looked up the heights and I saw y'all were trying to say jk and Taehyung are only like 5'6-7 it blew my mind. Especially when I think about pics like this

Like Yoongi's small and of course thats gonna make Taehyung look bigger, but even if you just look at Taehyung, the space he takes up/his overall presence makes him seem like he's at least 5'9. lmao Its hilarious to think they're actually as short as 5'6-5'7.