Official Plastic Surgery Thread

[stargazer]

These are some of the earliest clear predebut pictures I can find of Bom. She probably did get other stuff done prior to this but its seriously impossible to find a really clear picture of Bom from before she became a trainee.

 

 

This is how she looks now

 

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I tried to find pictures of her with minimal makeup but there aren't that many. If she isn't wearing a lot of makeup she puts on big glasses to cover her face

I've always wanted to know what she got done. Some of the things are very obvious like her nose and her eyes. Her chin this year looks different as well and I think she uses botox. But even with those surgeries that I've listed out, it still doesn't explain why her face look less natural than it did before. There are some other idols who get similar surgeries to Bom whose faces do not lose their naturalness. Can someone please list out the all the things that you think she's done.

 

Also please I'm trying to start a serious discussion about ps, I don't want it to turn to a bash fest. 

Edited December 18, 2013 by stargazer1611

[____shawnee]

These are some of the earliest clear predebut pictures I can find of Bom. She probably did get other stuff done prior to this but its seriously impossible to find a really clear picture of Bom from before she became a trainee.

 

 

This is how she looks now

 

\

 

I tried to find pictures of her with minimal makeup but there aren't that many. If she isn't wearing a lot of makeup she puts on big glasses to cover her face

I've always wanted to know what she got done. Some of the things are very obvious like her nose and her eyes. Her chin this year looks different as well and I think she uses botox. But even with those surgeries that I've listed out, it still doesn't explain why her face look less natural than it did before. There are some other idols who get similar surgeries to Bom whose faces do not lose their naturalness. Can someone please list out the all the things that you think she's done.

 

Also please I'm trying to start a serious discussion about ps, I don't want it to turn to a bash fest. 

 

Probably a fat graft. Her face, especially her cheeks, look more round and full.

 

Well Chen improved the most for me, idk if it's PS (the jaw is to drool for) or him dyeing his hair more often. Suho is a close second with his hair.

 

After putting the blame on their hairstylist for Kris, Chanyeol and Sehun, the only one that deteriorated IMO is Luhan.I thought it was the hair as well but even when he switched to nicer colours he's not doing it for me. That's why I'm wondering if it's due to PS. Or it could be just that he's a visual shock - handsome on first look but the effect is not lasting. I have the same visual shock problem with some other idols as well.

 

That definitely could be it. It also could be any slight change in weight distribution in the face (reason why Taeyeon looks less childlike), maturing looks, or just being tired from increased activities. Sleep deprivation can cause a saggy face, baggy, swollen, or red eyes, and droopy eyelids and corners of the mouth.  

 

Also, while dark makeup can make your eyes look smaller, it's also used to make them look bigger, it's all about how your apply it. Just look up some tutorials. It's ineffective to compare CL's eye with lots of eye makeup to CL's eyes with less/no eye makeup.

[midnightdreams]

These are some of the earliest clear predebut pictures I can find of Bom. She probably did get other stuff done prior to this but its seriously impossible to find a really clear picture of Bom from before she became a trainee.

 

 

This is how she looks now

 

\

 

I tried to find pictures of her with minimal makeup but there aren't that many. If she isn't wearing a lot of makeup she puts on big glasses to cover her face

I've always wanted to know what she got done. Some of the things are very obvious like her nose and her eyes. Her chin this year looks different as well and I think she uses botox. But even with those surgeries that I've listed out, it still doesn't explain why her face look less natural than it did before. There are some other idols who get similar surgeries to Bom whose faces do not lose their naturalness. Can someone please list out the all the things that you think she's done.

 

Also please I'm trying to start a serious discussion about ps, I don't want it to turn to a bash fest.

 

The biggest things that make her look less natural

1. Facial Disharmony

2. Stiff facial muscles

3. Overdone eyes

 

Facial disharmony

Her lower face (below the cheeks) is very weak compared to upper face. If you look at them separately, they look pretty nice (sans the chin implant).

Before her debut she must have had a jaw shaving surgery. During her I Am The Best, her lower face I would say was weaker than her upper face but not to the extent to where it is now. Her saving grace was that her chin was big enough to counter balance her upper face. Now it makes her cheeks look too big and puffy like a chipmunk.

I think she had her chin shaved and a chin implant before I love You. Something happened between ILY and FIL come backs to her chin to make it look so obvious. I'm guessing it got hit pretty hard or she had a revision.

 

2. Stiff facial muscles

I'm guessing she got Botox for wrinkles and such. Now some of her muscles aren't as flexible.

It usually isn't captured on photos but it's pretty obvious in videos like their fuse interview. Bom has limited facial expression compared to CL.

Her mouth area seems really stiff and sometimes it kind of shows in the photos.

 

3. Really high double eyelids

I haven't noticed eyelids as high as hers except for maybe crayon pop members (but they're pretty unnatural looking as well). Her eyes look really bloated/swollen. This feature alone doesn't make her whole face look plastic but it adds to it.

 

Puffy cheeks + stiff face + high double eyelids = not good

 

Bom's nose job does not look good either but there are plenty of idols with obvious nose jobs that doesn't have the plastic look.

Edited December 18, 2013 by midnightdreams

[PALEMOCHI]

are they're any vidoes of someone preforming skin bleaching or chemical peels with skin lighting?

[Gen_ki]

3. Really high double eyelids

I haven't noticed eyelids as high as hers except for maybe crayon pop members (but they're pretty unnatural looking as well). Her eyes look really bloated/swollen. This feature alone doesn't make her whole face look plastic but it adds to it.

 

There is no article talking about the accusations, but I wouldn't be surprised if Crayon Pop had plastic surgery. So far, I have seen accusations for the twins getting surgery on their eyes and Ellin getting a nose job. Plastic surgery on the eyes is actually a natural thing in the Kpop scene. Agencies will offer it to idols as a kind of debuting gift. Also, South Korea is known as the plastic surgery capital of the world. 

[JessicaRabbit]

Keeping Up With The Kim Kardashian

 

 

 

[JessicaRabbit]

These are some of the earliest clear predebut pictures I can find of Bom. She probably did get other stuff done prior to this but its seriously impossible to find a really clear picture of Bom from before she became a trainee.

 

 

This is how she looks now

 

\

 

I tried to find pictures of her with minimal makeup but there aren't that many. If she isn't wearing a lot of makeup she puts on big glasses to cover her face

I've always wanted to know what she got done. Some of the things are very obvious like her nose and her eyes. Her chin this year looks different as well and I think she uses botox. But even with those surgeries that I've listed out, it still doesn't explain why her face look less natural than it did before. There are some other idols who get similar surgeries to Bom whose faces do not lose their naturalness. Can someone please list out the all the things that you think she's done.

 

Also please I'm trying to start a serious discussion about ps, I don't want it to turn to a bash fest. 

 

Page 5, I put down my own speculation of what's what with 2NE1's Bom.

[a(mber)]

Keeping Up With The Kim Kardashian

 

 

 

That's just ridiculous 

[blank_stare]

Even when I'm not smiling, my eyes usually look small but because I've noticed I look better when I make an effort to open my eyes a little bigger, I've taken to doing that. Since she's a celebrity and she's used to people taking pictures of her, it might have been a habit she picked up. Like I said, I don't think you can jump to such conclusions from one picture. I really don't care if she did plastic surgery or not but I think that some of the your plastic surgery claims are rash and aren't supported with enough evidence.

 

I'm not rash. I do research and I guess I didn't do enough research on Lucy Liu. Her childhood pictures or teeanages or at least college pics are hard to find. I take back on what I said about her eyes. Though she might have gotten her nose done, but that's only a speculation. Other than that she gets botox and/or fillers. 

 

 

 

 

 

Breast Implants 

 

Let's start with G.na. She has breast implants.

 

 

 

Breast are supposed to have a curved on top of our breast even when we are using push up bra or using your hands. Girls try pushing them and see if you can see curve on top of your breast.

 

 

 

She most likely had a teardrop shaped breast implants to make it even more natural even when she wants a larger size of implants. Here you can she she's wearing a push up bra with thick padding but you can still see that she has a large breast. You can see the curve and unnatural curved on top of her breast on the pic below.

 

 

 

 

Ha Na Kyung.

 

 

 

Her breast implants are showing due to the gravity of the earth. Weight pulls down the breast making it look like something is inside.

 

She also got a round breast implants.

Edited December 18, 2013 by blank_stare

[blank_stare]

Christina Aquilera got a breast implants. Usually they insert the implants through the axillary or armpits or the nipples areolas. The size of the implants, most of the time will depend on where they'll cut/incision.

Also you can get a fat grafting for breast augmentation. Though it takes at least 2 months - 1year to see if your breast fat graft would stay or lose it. 

 

 

 

Oh In Hye, tear drop shaped implants.

 

 

Soyu, Sistar (did I get her right?)

 

 

Ailee, it looks like she got a round implants. If it was a tear drop shaped the curve of the breast in between would be less noticeable like G.Na's breast when pushed together. 

 

 

 

I don't know who this is. Her boobs looks unnatural. Probably push up bra or breast implants. It looks like she had a round implants.

 

 

Another pic of G.Na's breast showing that unnatural curve on the breast. That curve on her pale pink shirt is the push up bra.

Edited December 20, 2013 by blank_stare

[Nekci]

Christina Aquilera got a breast implants. Usually they insert the implants through the axillary or armpits or the nipples. The size of the implants, most of the time will depend on where they'll cut/incision.

Also you can get a fat grafting for breast augmentation. Though it takes at least 2 months - 1year to see if your breast fat graft would stay or lose it. 

 

 

 

Oh In Hye, tear drop shaped implants.

 

 

Soyu, Sistar (did I get her right?)

 

 

Ailee, it looks like she got a round implants. If it was a tear drop shaped the curve of the breast in between would be less noticeable like G.Na's breast when pushed together. 

 

 

 

I don't know who this is. Her boobs looks unnatural. Probably push up bra or breast implants. It looks like she had a round implants.

 

 

Another pic of G.Na's breast showing that unnatural curve on the breast. That curve on her pale pink shirt is the push up bra.

After Soyu, that's Ailee. Pretty sure that they gave her a push up bra though.

[blank_stare]

After Soyu, that's Ailee. Pretty sure that they gave her a push up bra though.

 

I know she's wearing push up bra there. You can still wear push up bra to even more emphasize your boobs even if you have gotten breast implants. I'm merely saying that Ailee's round implants is showing while G.Na's tear drop shaped implants isn't noticeable because of the difference between the two. 

 

 

Edit: Another thing. I'm talking about the girl in white.

Edited December 19, 2013 by blank_stare

[suck this]

Qri's chin is obviously plastic, too pointy

 

 
I don't know about her eyes, but I'm positive that circle lenses and makeup make them appear much larger than they are. Same reason Park Bom's eyes look really weird and doll-like when they're actually not so bad without makeup (even if her eyelids are clearly the result of PS).
 
 
Compared to before:

 

 
 
VIXX's Ken got his jaw done for sure.

 

 
 
And here's Tiffany's second nose job:

 
 
Since Bom is like the face of plastic surgery, I'll leave these scary ass pictures in a spoiler

 

 

She fucked up her jaw real bad.

 

 

Went too far with her forehead also.

 

 

 

Edited December 19, 2013 by Ms. Doom

[abra]

Princess Tiffany's nose job looks pretty unnecessary but it was so well done

You don't usually see idols get nosejobs where they make the nose get more bent

[junglove]

a better view of that side of his jaw

I don't know when this was taken.. 

may 2012

>< Idk if he shaved his jaw to an ugly ass shape or people edited it into an ugly shape

 

It looks like baekhyun did something with his mouth or with his chin and nose to make his mouth look slightly more receded 

are you seriously gonna tell me he didn't have a jaw surgery? you guys are so biased

 

Edited December 21, 2013 by junglove

[midnightdreams]

are you seriously gonna tell me he didn't have a jaw surgery? you guys are so biased

 

if you study enough faces (this sounds creepy but I draw as a hobby), you'll realize that a swooped jawline or one like Yoona's in the photo below doesn't happen naturally

 

Yoona's Real Jaw

You can tell the real one is more angular

 

If anyone shaved their jaw like the second photo in your post, their jaw would look like Bom's. The low half of her face is overpowered by her top. I think she got her jaw shaved before I love you promotions looking at it again.

 

Anytime you see someone with that kind of jaw, 95% of the time it's due to photoshop. A plastic surgeon should know better and sculpt a jaw to look as natural as it can

I used angelababy because she has shaved her jaw. I don't know the dates of either but it's definitely after her jaw shaving procedure.

 

There is no bias. I originally thought Hyori got her jaw shaved but it was only botox injections. Same thing for GD. The prevalence of photoshop makes it hard to be sure if said person got plastic surgery. I have a feeling whoever you quoted (don't kill me exotics) had his jaw shaved but not to the extent implied with that before and after.

Edited December 21, 2013 by midnightdreams

[junglove]

if you study enough faces (this sounds creepy but I draw as a hobby), you'll realize that a swooped jawline or one like Yoona's in the photo below doesn't happen naturally

 

Yoona's Real Jaw

You can tell the real one is more angular

 

If anyone shaved their jaw like the second photo in your post, their jaw would look like Bom's. The low half of her face is overpowered by her top. I think she got her jaw shaved before I love you promotions looking at it again.

 

Anytime you see someone with that kind of jaw, 95% of the time it's due to photoshop. A plastic surgeon should know better and sculpt a jaw to look as natural as it can

I used angelababy because she has shaved her jaw. I don't know the dates of either but it's definitely after her jaw shaving procedure.

 

There is no bias. I originally thought Hyori got her jaw shaved but it was only botox injections. Same thing for GD. The prevalence of photoshop makes it hard to be sure if said person got plastic surgery. I have a feeling whoever you quoted (don't kill me exotics) had his jaw shaved but not to the extent implied with that before and after.

so baehyun had a jaw surgery?  at least we can agree on something.

I have a question is it painful to have a jaw surgery? I heard that surgery takes months to recover from and comes with risk of permanent damage. How come if it so painful majority of male and female idols have it?

[midnightdreams]

so baehyun had a jaw surgery?  at least we can agree on something.

I have a question is it painful to have a jaw surgery? I heard that surgery takes months to recover from and comes with risk of permanent damage. How come if it so painful majority of male and female idols have it?

I think so, a small to moderate amount.

I've never had it. I've heard some stories but I think they were myths. I think I read from kpsurgery that you can go back to work after a month because the swelling isn't noticeable. I imagine it's as painful as any other invasive surgery..  http://www.soompi.com/2013/03/05/kim-ji-hyun-talks-about-her-painful-jaw-reduction-surgery/

 

I don't think many male idols get their jaw shaved compared to females (or I just don't notice).

 

Korea has this obsession with a small face.

 

“She’ll never make it because her head is too big.â€

Most idols want to continue in the entertainment industry after their group has disbanded. They need to look pretty. If they don't do it for their future, they do it to boost their self esteem like Bom.

[Athena]

are you seriously gonna tell me he didn't have a jaw surgery? you guys are so biased

 

Do you admit that Jessica got jaw surgery?

[junglove]

Do you admit that Jessica got jaw surgery?

yep obviously...... just  because Jessica had jaw surgery I'm not allowed to talk about jaw surgery in other idols? my point is that people never talk about male idols surgeries..... we already know that most snsd members have at least something done.  

[Athena]

yep obviously...... just  because Jessica had jaw surgery I'm not allowed to talk about jaw surgery in other idols? my point is that people never talk about male idols surgeries..... we already know that most snsd members have at least something done.  

My point was if you were going to say no then you would be biased. Anyway, that Baekhyun jaw thing is debatable, because the same thing happens to Yoona. The pictures need to be at the same exact angle in order for you to compare.

[junglove]

My point was if you were going to say no then you would be biased. Anyway, that Baekhyun jaw thing is debatable, because the same thing happens to Yoona. The pictures need to be at the same exact angle in order for you to compare.

I'm not sure about yoona's jaw surgery though I think she only had a nose job.

[Athena]

I'm not sure about yoona's jaw surgery though I think she only had a nose job.

She had two nose jobs and a minor jaw shaving or chin fillers.

[junglove]

I still think Baekhyun had a jaw surgery and a nose job and probably eyelid surgery too.

Compare these two pictures.

 

[junglove]

Qri's chin is obviously plastic, too pointy

 

 

I don't know about her eyes, but I'm positive that circle lenses and makeup make them appear much larger than they are. Same reason Park Bom's eyes look really weird and doll-like when they're actually not so bad without makeup (even if her eyelids are clearly the result of PS).

 

 

Compared to before:

 

 

 

VIXX's Ken got his jaw done for sure.

 

 

 

And here's Tiffany's second nose job:

 

 

Since Bom is like the face of plastic surgery, I'll leave these scary ass pictures in a spoiler

 

 

She fucked up her jaw real bad.

 

 

Went too far with her forehead also.

 

 

 

why are you so sure she had another nose job? it could have been just fillers and you guys won't admit that Baekhyun had jaw surgery when it so obvious.