Official Plastic Surgery Thread

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Would you consider 34-26-38 a hourglass or pear body shape, im curious about a female idols' body shape...

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11 minutes ago, loveablejoy said:

I would say pear.

Hourglass is when the bust & hip are very similar measure & waist much smaller. Example: 36-24-36 or 36-24-38

I think the shoulders matter too...like if the shoulders are close to the hip size, it may look like hourglass.

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4 minutes ago, Oriane said:

I know I might sound crazy but he looks like Jaemin at some angles lol. His lips are sus not gonna lie

he does but his lips don't

ot but I really love your pfp gif

Edited June 4, 2021 by Sandarella

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So im really confused about BlackPink's real heights....like Jennie and Jisoo mostly cuz Jisoo's official height is shorter than Jennie but in some photos Jisoo looks taller than Jennie when they both are wearing the same shoes...

What's Jennie's real height as well as Jisoo? are they both the same height?

some photos: https://imgur.com/W2Lt4ui

https://imgur.com/t1wLiGN

https://imgur.com/mpkeXjm

https://imgur.com/OdANLuB

Jisoo is in blue shirt while Jennie in the dress

https://imgur.com/T3RtDkl

https://imgur.com/57bUhqf

 

Edited June 4, 2021 by Sandarella

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What did Jisoo got done? I think she did her teeth or nose(?)

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why does Dahyun's jaw look different?

https://imgur.com/VQoj5aE

 

Edited June 6, 2021 by Sandarella

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Did twice did Plastic surgery ?

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what work did twice had??

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is momo wearing hip pads?  

 

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what do you guys think about the artist of true beauty?

she looks weird to me...

https://www.instagram.com/p/CPkJ9MajhjU/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CQIfdpfDzly/

https://www.koreaboo.com/news/true-beauty-yaongyi-tummy-tuck-rumors-22-inch-waist/

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4 hours ago, panqueque said:

She said before she got her eyes done since she used to model for a mall (?) and also admitted to use non invasive procedures, so maybe botox and fillers? 

This was on 2019 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bC6ssJGSkU

2020 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA0N5nb0wgw

2021 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UqweB24ltw

2021https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qzKQ_nNmcM

I have no idea what she did to her face but she at least had botox since she barely can move her face now, and lip fillers

However her Jaw was really suspicious in the 2019 video, she has some signs of a jaw surgery as the skin sagging around that area.

I found this post in pann about her modeling days, and it seems she did more than her eyes.  https://pann.nate.com/talk/355885317

She could have stopped in 2019, she looks really pretty in that interview. I'm pretty sure she wants to look exactly as her characters since she draws them with this weird gangnam vibe.

 

 

 

she always looked weridish to me like she didnt look like a human at all even her body didnt look natural...

her lips kinda look like Hyungwon from monsta x

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5 hours ago, UrmiUndone said:

Does it work for rectangular body types? (I am one lol)

it can make any body type look curvier....but you are beautiful the way you are<3

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TO FIND OUT IF IDOLS ARE WEARING HIP PADS: try comparing their concert or performances or styled by stylist looks to more natural no so dressed up like airport looks (SOMETIMES) eg jennie: concert: https://imgur.com/qb0jOC8

airport: https://imgur.com/IBOsdeb

when you see the "butt area" is actually not attached to your upper body you can see while idols dancing or wearing tighter bottoms it looks like: https://imgur.com/qlL6KEE

or notice how her hip pads comeout: https://imgur.com/BtrsYqb

but sometimes they make it look so fake by using the bigger ones rip: nayeon heartshaker mv its too obv: https://imgur.com/axU0ZtS

seulgi: https://imgur.com/Z42yA8z

sometimes stylists makes it look so natural Example: Nayeon idk but her stylist sometimes makes it look natural or they will choose different styling choices to make it look natural without pads--

nayeon live with pads or the right styling choice:https://imgur.com/KfLFTm2

without hippads: https://imgur.com/juAOOKE

 

boob pads or boob job:

before : https://imgur.com/hsXJcln
after: https://imgur.com/QTV4z6C

There are alot more female idols to list...A huge chunk of female idols use Pads on their boobs and Hips, is. That they can appear to have this “perfect” body. Im not shaming them if they are happy with it...no problem unless they lie about it... its better to show your real body and not make unreal beauty standards and its really uncomfortable to dance in those it seems...just dont compare yourselves' to them and feel bad. we all are beautiful in our own way.

 

EDIT: I DECIDED TO ADD MORE PICS:

NAYEON: WITH:

https://imgur.com/tqH2eF2

WITHOUT: 

https://imgur.com/94xGp5s

YUJU: WITH https://imgur.com/4Yve513

WITHOUT:

https://imgur.com/pCEcQxs

IU: WITH: https://imgur.com/Ycov0Z4

WITHOUT: https://imgur.com/tNeDiPp

LISA: WITH: https://imgur.com/NpsAM63

WITHOUT: https://imgur.com/h7g3SR8

JISOO WITH: https://imgur.com/9jxf3kQ

WITHOUT: https://imgur.com/5I65Fa3

Edited June 17, 2021 by Sandarella

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On the topic of comparing yourselves to idols or not feeling pretty enough after seeing them I wrote a long essay please read if you subconsciously compare yourselves:

NO WAY are kpop industry standards of height/weight, body shape, face shape, facial features, skin tone, etc. normal, healthy, or anything that a non-korean celeb should be looking to achieve (and I’d argue that for the health and wellness of any human being, these standards are highly toxic and unsustainable). Idols and actors have constant access to makeup, stylists, dermatologists, good lighting and camera angles, and are very much getting plastic surgery and other “procedures” to make it look like they’re “perfect” (like lasers, brow tinting, hair transplants/hairline reductions, fillers, lipotropic-type injections to literally melt fat (that’s what causes the telltale bruising along thighs and arms), etc.). Their job is to look good 24/7 which means that they’re always wearing makeup of some kind (trust me, even in their “bare face selcas” they often have at least their eyebrows tinted and bb cream on) and apply filters to lighten/smooth the appearance of their skin.

Idols in particular are subject to extreme dieting schedules (cucumber, sweet potato, egg white, cherry tomatoes) that restrict their calories intakes to dangerously low levels. They’re not getting enough rest or nutrition and as a result are at constant risk of injury or health problems. This is not a realistic expectation for any other human being. The average person cannot try to do this lest they pass out at school or work. Why do you think idols go to the hospital and get IV drips so often?

The idea that a woman (not extremely petite) should be under 50kg is absolutely laughable. It’s so unhealthy it’s ridiculous. At your height you are perfectly fine. And there’s not a magic number that means you’re skinny/healthy/“normal”; weight looks different on every person and all that matters is that you’re comfortable and reasonably healthy.

The industry is not a representation of beauty or health—heck, not even korean people look like that. Remember that the industry is a visual-driven market and its products (idols) are manipulated to look as perfectly beautiful as possible, because that’s what contributes to the fantasy and appeal of watching them (they’re not like you). If everyone looked the same, no one would be beautiful. Individuality and your unique mix of features are what distinguish you from everyone else. You don’t have to look in the mirror and think you’re the most gorgeous person in the world but just remember that your worth is not determined by a manufactured ideal of korean beauty. A lot of beauty/body ideals change over time (in America we went from idealizing skinny to wanting traditionally black/Latin features), even in Korea. There was a point when tanner skin was accepted and male idols bulked up but you wouldn’t think so just by looking at the current industry standard.

It is really hard to ground yourself amongst all of this but at a certain point I just realized I’d rather be rounder and softer and healthy than thin and at serious risk of any myriad of internal/external health concerns. I’m not an idol, I don’t see why I should have to look like one when the life that I live requires a sustainable lifestyle and body that I can rely on. 

thanks for reading I hope this helps We all have our insecurities but remind yourself that any perceived “issue” doesn’t reduce your worth or beauty in any way. Most people won’t even know what you’re self-conscious about, it’s not apparent at all.

thanks for reading bb

 

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6 hours ago, neila said:

btw i feel like her nose looks different in Alcohol Free, what do you think?

she probably lost weight and got fillers, cheeks, lips or more...loosing weight and adding fillers looks weridish but I think she had atleast one nose job... but her arms seem fuller than before (?)

Edited June 17, 2021 by Sandarella

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Do kpop idols get fillers or smth else for aeygo-sal? eg: TWICE

nayeon predebut: https://imgur.com/2U93Wv2

recent: https://imgur.com/hoLXbn7

tzuyu predebut: https://imgur.com/36TsTYa

recent: https://imgur.com/TvDpTa3

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GUYS LOOK WHAT I FOUND!

before:

https://imgur.com/hMhJPJ7

after: https://imgur.com/wSg1V3P

 

Edited June 17, 2021 by Sandarella

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29 minutes ago, Owlet said:

Omg I forgot about her, so for anyone wondering, this actually isn't Momo (I think you knew that already @Sandarella haha)

Her name is Mutiara Azzahra, a JKT48 idol. I remember when I saw her for the first time I was just shocked at how much they resemble each other. (She's also a fan of Momo and is aware of their striking resemblance)

She's not even a look-alike at this point, more like a doppelgänger:

 

ikrrrrrr she resembles her sooo muchhh especially her childhood self... I WAS SHK WHEN I SAW HOW SIMILAR THEY LOOK....ur smart

 

btw what work Momo had 

 

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35 minutes ago, loveablejoy said:

Is that Momo? Momo looks good before. I never saw that photo before, but she looks good.

its not her

35 minutes ago, Owlet said:

Omg I forgot about her, so for anyone wondering, this actually isn't Momo (I think you knew that already @Sandarella haha)

Her name is Mutiara Azzahra, a JKT48 idol. I remember when I saw her for the first time I was just shocked at how much they resemble each other. (She's also a fan of Momo and is aware of their striking resemblance)

She's not even a look-alike at this point, more like a doppelgänger:

 

 

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15 minutes ago, Kabana said:

At first I was gonna disagree with you about Momo’s boobs and get pictures to show proof she always had more than the 7 other members (except Jihyo lol), but I realize you are probably right. They do look bigger. But I still can’t say for 10000% sure because how she dressed in debut is different (more covered up in the chest area ), and she might just be showing off more. 

maybe she uses padded bras than before cuz its not about the coverage your bbs, they will always come out if they're big unless u wore a really tight top in which you can't even breath rip

Edited June 17, 2021 by Sandarella

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4 minutes ago, loveablejoy said:

 

Momo wear breast pads + push up bras.

Jihyo also wears them, she ain't as big as people think.

yes jihyo did wear push up bra here: 

 

if you closely look u can see the circular shape of bra pad....

"That bra is stronger than my will to live."

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18 minutes ago, Owlet said:

The ones I'm sure of:

1) 2 eye procedures:  The first one during her pre-debut and pre-Sixteen days: 

For her second eye surgery, I'm not sure when she's had it exactly but I remember people started to see a clear difference around Likey era (So 2017), she basically deepened her double eyelid crease.

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2) Veneers: I remember there was a Teeth/Veneer discussion over here quite a while ago and Momo's teeth work was used as an obvious case Literally any picture of her laughing or smiling will do the trick:

3) Overall face shape: Momo's face used to look a lot sharper, with more definied corners and angles. For a while now, it's fuller and a lot softer looking with rounder corners and edges (except for her mandible I'd say) so, probably fillers are at play here:

   

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Other possibilities aka the ones I'm not sure of:

• Aegyo-sal fillers: Aegyo-sal is the fat under the eyes that can help you achieve a cuter and more youthful appearance. She's always had it but obviously, it's way more intense post-debut. However, it's also worth mentioning that the eye makeup her stylists give her also HEAVILY and purposefully accentuates that area which is why I'm not completely convinced by this assumption.

 

• Face shape: I've said the fullness that her face has gained was due to fillers and I still believe that, but people have pointed out the possiblity of her having some facial contouring or some kind of cheek bone reduction done (not sure about it).

 

• Nose: I'm a little bit more convinced on this one compared to the other procedures mentioned above. Momo has a clear and visible bump on her nose that hasn't been touched so there was *probably* no tweaking done to her bridge, but I think the possiblity of her having done something to the tip/alar base isn't too far-fetched but again, her pictures sometimes support this assumption and sometimes they don't.

I guess that's it? If there's any other suggestion, I'm a pretty big fan of Momo so I'd love to discuss/read others' speculations on her potential procedures.

thanks so much<3 idek but some onces dislike my post for asking twice's procedures for some reason?... i really love the girls too<3

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18 hours ago, Kabana said:

Took some time to explain body types and give examples

Apple

Waist is fullest part of the body, narrow hips, top heavy from waist up.

Rectangle

Shoulders, waist, and hips and roughly the same measurements 

 

Inverted Triangle

Shoulders are a lot wider than hips. Waist isn’t necessarily defined but it’s smaller than upper body 

 

Hourglass 

shoulders and hips are about the same measurements. Define waist. Upper and lower body is proportionate 

 

Pear,

Hips are the widest/fullest part of the body. Define waist. Bottom heavy.

 

body shapes are actually calculated by your measurements but we dont have these idols measurements so we have to guess by how their body looks anyway this was great post! shows they're are many body types except hourglass

calculator for your body shape: https://www.calculator.net/body-type-calculator.html

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9 hours ago, sanchelin said:

I don't know if it's still a common procedure or if the idols rely on makeup more nowadays but I'm sure some do get the filler.

With Twice it's hard to tell because their mua goes super heavy with the aegyo-sal makeup

 

I think this kind of makeup just doesn't translate well to real life (same for the heavy contouring that's popular in the west). It looks better on stage with heavy lighting. I guess it's not really a problem for idols and other celebrities because they're always being filmed, photographed, edited, etc. 

thanks for letting me know! btw it fascinates me how much makeup can change your face...but still they do a lot of procedures to look perfect its really scary, Korea is so obsessed  with looking perfect!

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https://www.koreaboo.com/stories/female-idols-mysterious-spot-legs-secret-truth/

 

These injections can melt your thigh fat alot of female idols do this

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very informative video especially about paddings:

 

Edited June 23, 2021 by Sandarella