Official Plastic Surgery Thread

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5 minutes ago, UrmiUndone said:

Suga and Woozi seems to have the same height/body proportions tbh so they are likely of the same height (around 5'3"-5'5").

 

Seems like woozi is more or less saying the truth about his height, give or take few cms tbh

Average lenght of a human face is 23.99cm 

He seems to be around 163-165 here 

Edited May 14, 2021 by lighterxx

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44 minutes ago, tomorrowseemssofaraway said:

His real height is 163 cm while Mingyus real height is 190 cm. 

Mingyu is around 187 ish i think, woozi is slightly shorter than his profile probably tho, i saw many fans compare themselves with him and find themselves taller in real life. My idea was using them like ruler, one is very tall other is quite short, most idols fall between them, closeness to either of them would reveal their real height, and then we can move on using newly found idols as rulers again lol

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11 minutes ago, iluvkpop123 said:

I'm not very familiar with Soyeon but these photos weirded me out did she do something recently or does she always look like this?

 

seems like some editing otherwise this change is a bit too much to heal by now

probably one weird selfie app

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13 minutes ago, Lolly21 said:

I haven't checked G IDLE in a while but I hope this is just a filter or something... Her lips look HUGE and super injected.

Not only lips, her facial balance is completely off, including her nose, im pretty sure its editing, who knows tho maybe she got fillers and filters, its hard to pick that apart unlike bone shapes

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21 minutes ago, rananicolee said:

oh those are lip injections for sure.

Fillers probably my attention was on her jawline, nose AND eyes, so there is some editing going on there, i would love to see picture without any editing to confirm there is fillers or not, because i remember she previous had them toobut it was never this much

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16 minutes ago, Eirene29 said:

That's probably because they can't force you to do anything, they can suggest and manipulate u in thinking you need PS though. So Jeno must have confidence in his looks and that's very rare

tbh he also has one of the fav face types SM loves, i think thats called dinasour face? Super Junior's Donghae, Jonghyun, Amber, Chen, i think there was a list too lol 

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7 hours ago, Eirene29 said:

Yup, he's got one of the type of faces they like. But that doesn't exempt you from PS. Donghae had nose and probably eyes done so...

Yipyip I was explaining why he wouldn't touch his jaw or overall face shape!!

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7 hours ago, Sandarella said:

 

Your take on this?

hm i dont like this dude's explanations, he tends to force everything on nosejob, for Sana, alarplasty maybe, but I dont think she had a nosejob honestly, for chin implant, i dont think so as her overbite is fixed now as well, we discussed before its probably a dental procedure rather than anything else. 

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8 hours ago, Metrico said:

Jun, Wonwoo and Mingyu are such good examples of relatively similar heights with three vastly different body types. He's standing a bit back but I'm always shocked how slender and small Jeonghan appears. 

Chan here is interesting, he's the second shortest in SVT and profiles online say he's 5'8 but I don't think that's true at all. He's very slender but has a big head and broad shoulders/neck and hips but I've noticed in large group shots especially in relation to Woozi here he's not much taller? He tends to wear awful chunky shoes lifts. How tall would people peg him as? I'm thinking 170cm, 5 ft 6?

i think he is minimum 166, maximum 170, i dont think he is anything more lol 

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2 minutes ago, UrmiUndone said:

Chan?

yip yip, they look like he only has few CM between him and Woozi, ofc without shoes, he tends to wear crazy high shoes almost close to heel level 

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4 hours ago, tiramisu cake said:

yunseong from drippin.... did he get something done? his jawline and chin look questionable LOL 
his face is really cute but whatever they did with his chin is weird and i couldn't help but to notice it in the video i was watching
 

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looks like implant classic kpop idol favourite, he is a cute guy tho he so doesnt need (nor literally anyone)

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33 minutes ago, Metrico said:

Oh wow they kinda do. Dino's gotten a bit buffer/lean than he was even last year looking at his stomach/abs slips in his recent danceology. I really love his body type it's very cute and his lower body is very, ahem muscular. Yang Yang is handsome. 

Oh god if you've seen it remember his white shoes in that one Tik Tok?

Okay seems the consensus yes he's pretty darn small. I love this in denial otter boy..

I always remember that one Home winner ceremony where they had to take their shoes off, and he threw himself to floor to not show his height he is goddamn adorable (also damn I would definitely hurt myself while dancing if I wore his shoes, anything above converse level is too much for me )

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4 minutes ago, UrmiUndone said:

Does anybody think Hyuna looks like Jaejoong? Remember @lighterxx We were talking about if SM could debut a tomboy Female Jaejoong member? Lol Hyuna is not tomboy- but she is probably closest to what I kinda imagined lol.

tbh they are not lookalikes at all, i would say jeongyeon is closer to female jaejoong, tho both are not exactly him. SM would definitely debut someone like this tho, they would jump to chance me thinks lol 

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That has to be one of the most obvious implants i ever saw rip

 

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19 minutes ago, supercarrot said:

He must have gotten it relatively young, right? Yeonjun had been a trainee for 5 years and in his predebut pics he had a high nose bridge as well. Although, I think perhaps the tip did not look as sharp as it does now, but I'm not sure. What do you guys think? And do you think he did anything to his eyes?

I previously suspected he got it for years, tho i didnt knew how long he was trainee for, i think at highschool he was already going through his procedures

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15 minutes ago, Metrico said:

Dino takes terrible selfies but lately he's really blossomed visually.

 

 

Blonde is absolutely his color. Aside from generally pretty tasteful nosework over time including his recent work for Home Run which was the most obvious/extensive a change he's ever done (and seems to have settled or reverted/dissolved some since it's very unusual) and potentially inner eye corners without touching his monolids (what does anyone else think about that sometimes it seems the same ?) he's generally from what I can tell otherwise untouched. I honestly think he's a great example of subtle changes making the most out of your natural face while still looking like yourself.

Like I feel so bad for some of the boys and girls and these awful anime noses at 19, 20 in comparison....

I dont think he touched his eyes tbh, seems like a make up seeing him with and without it lol i also realized change happened the moment they changed their makeup studio i think it was to balloon? I forgot studio's name it was a weird one (his doctor for nose is amazing tho)

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11 hours ago, zhvero said:

Bighit really has no problem making their young trainees/members get ps huh 

Seems to be, these days i attach sm with unnecessary jaw work, bh with unnecessary ps at young age usually nose. Idk why they are so obsessed with looks, they were far less obsessed with bts' looks i think and they turn out to be their moneymaker, so clearly there is no need to give ps to people under 15 o.o i guess they do it to fool the masses about naturalness rip knetz clearly dont know people can get ps under 18 (hell most dont know on OH probably)

 

7 hours ago, UrmiUndone said:

Lol JY is my female ult and I never thought JJ resembles her- frankly I saw her resembling Day6 Jae and EXO Luhan more. I would also say a bit of NUEST Ren. I think it is more about the vibe- I never really saw JY as a sexy person the way I see Hyuna.

Frankly the Kris/Taeyong looks like Jaejoong thing was fun back in the day but now I'm kinda getting tired of "X male idol looks like Jaejoong" thingie. Probably because I really don't find the said idols captivating anymore. So a female Jaejoong lookalike will probably be more interesting to me(depending on the concept of the group)

Actually I do think the female idol who kinda came close to Jaejoong atleast charisma wise was Wendy but she was sidelined by SM for Irene(somebody Whom I never liked).

 

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I never imagined jaejoong as sexy probably because i was a fetus myself when i liked him lmao, it was more of BIG BROTHER love lol so JY felt very fitting to me in contrast to Hyuna, who i attach with sexy image in general o.o i think female jaejoong would be so hard to find in general tho. His features despite looking baby faced, was always on manlier side, not like Heechul whowith a wig i can fool people into thinking he is a female. Wendy is indeed fitting stage wise tbh, i couldnt think of a more charismatic in jj way in sm o.o

 

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59 minutes ago, EmptyWaterBottle said:

Yeah, when I found out you could get work done under 18, I was pretty shocked ngl, kinda unrelated, but I heard that the UK is planning to ban botox and fillers for under 18s, I didn't even know people could have fillers at like 16, why are there doctors and parents okay with that (unless the botox is for medical reasons)? It's really sad that some idols are so young when they start touching up their faces, especially considering that either the company must have told them that feature wasn't attractive enough or they already thought that, it's setting them up for a lifetime of insecurity and thinking they need to change things about themselves

(This time I managed to multi quote lol) 

Usually parents themselves are pretty uncaring and want their children to look amazing, I'm sure you saw toddler beauty pageants? Literal 4 years old with more make up than I would ever wear? So unfortunately ps at 14-15 does not surprise me, imagine if you have unconventional looks at high school/ middle school etc

57 minutes ago, Metrico said:

I love him bare faced. I think Seungkwan also looks great barefaced too. I feel like their makeup has improved a lot though is that what you meant by the change in studio?

 

There's examples that kinda defeat my assertion here (DK's nose was done in hs making predebut pictures unreliable) but in general despite their awfulness at management and the tragedy of After School and Pristin, Pledis stands out to me as an agency that seeks out truly potential entertainers over looks to a degree in comparison to SM and BH proper. Like After School was their most conventional and fussed with but no one is touching what those girls did on stage (pole dancing, tap dance).

Like there's a musical theater element to all of their groups that kinda takes president over the individual if that makes sense? At least when you step back and look at their roster of artists past and present it's a much different ecclectic vibe. Pretty approachable. Note how plastic some of the girls from Pristin became after they folded/left the agency and then tried to redebut as Hinapia. 

Svt for the longest time was considered probably the most natural group and still have an approachable handsome boy next door vibe.  Nu'est has unconventional idols too. 

Dino's younger brother Gun is apparently a trainee at Pledis and there's rumbles he may be the leader of a new group down the line (did I hear that from here?) I'd be curious to see how those boys look like, if they follow this 4th gen trend of crazy perfection or not...

Oh they truly changed their whole make up artist line!! It was from different studio and it changed fully, that's when they started to find their skin tone as well instead of incredibly white on everyone. Since they are alot, around half of it changed to new studio, and I think it really helped, they have like 5 make up artists in total, with helpers not included

Seokmin is pretty different TBh he said he can't breath from his old nose, I know it's seen as excuse lol, but back then I did notice he sounded better in debut rather than predebut. Otherwise while pledis CEO is a scum, he is one of the rare CEOs that actually has stage experience, he was head of traditional Korean dancing committee for ages, he is also a ballet, that's why he makes every idol under him focus fully on dance, that's also probably why we see idols from pledis focus on overall stage instead of individual dances. Afterall what is taught to them from the start is being able to cover and dominate the stage, not be the most charismatic and impactful dancer. 

I hope Gun or any revealed trainees don't make changes TBh, I didn't saw Gun but Bokai (?) looked cute and it wouldn't be good in anyway to make a change on him. Considering I saw rest of the trainees were like 14-15, I hope they won't follow that perfection element, especially since Pledis itself prefers more approachable looks

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1 hour ago, EmptyWaterBottle said:

I do think that surely parents taking advantage of this would be more reason to put age limits on ps, but I guess unfortunately not. Parents see that chance for their kid to be the best, or so that they themselves can be better- you know the ones that are like "look at my child, yes that's MY child who is perfect" (especially with pageants where a lot of them try to live through their kids) and take advantage of it.

(sorry if I went off on a tangent)

It's just it's hard to limit, legally speaking ps is surgery, a children for health reasons should be allowed to have surgery, with parental permission and with doctor view. But what exactly is "health reasons"? That's the issue law faces. If they ban something, they might unintentionally create more issues. Someone with face completely burnt would be restricted from getting facial reconstruction surgery too. Law can't ban some and allow others, it would cause them to get overburdened because people would argue their ps is for health reasons. And courts are not doctors it would mean they would ask expert opinion, then doctors would be asked, doctors might say yes for some no for others, it's so hard to draft some type of rule with this. That's why age limits in ps is absurdly low, incase you block someone that you shouldn't. 

 

Bit of outside of the topic but Medical Law is the area I am planning to study so lol 

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51 minutes ago, EmptyWaterBottle said:

If medical law is what you are planning to study, then you already seem to be doing a really good job haha

Thank you for your opinion, I completely agree, it certainly is a lot more complicated than it may seem

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Thank you!! Since its a topic im interested i already read so many articles and books about it lol happy its somehow useful °^°

 

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1 hour ago, StanSatan said:

I thought those pics were of 2 different people.  His eyes does look changed to me,  the inner corner specially. His face looks tighter/slimmer too but idk if that's photoshop. 

he went from barely in puberty to adult male so puffyness reduced a bit otherwise his eyes didnt have a change, I didnt care about picture choice as i knew his face, for non fans this is from early svt 

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these are far more recent

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sorry for the selfie it was just one of the most recent pictures showed his eye shape

I hope these helped!!

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6 minutes ago, UrmiUndone said:

what is the point of wearing Invisaligns though? At this point it seems regular braces seems more cost-effective and convenient.

Its invisible lol but yeah overall braces are better you can eat with them on as well

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4 minutes ago, UrmiUndone said:

Invisalign is something that I only see entertainers availing. For normies like me, NO BENEFIT.

Tbh I used both, as doctor suggested it to me (tho I never used I'm a big waste of money when it comes to that) it's very uncomfortable compared to braces, tho I bleed alot during getting braces so I imagine some people might be afraid of that. I also feel left over glue that is sticking to my teeth from using braces (behind them) so if your issue is not too big, I guess Invisalign might be logical. I would still prefer braces tho, far better unless you are successful like me and break metal string like part of it. 

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Just now, neila said:

If you go to a good dentist. The dentist can identify the glue and polish it off as part of check up. 

If you had a good orthodontist they shouldn't have left any glue on your teeth. It could be placebo effect it could be residue glue I hope it gets better

My orthodontist was quite great it's just it's at such an area dentists find it really hard to find it, even I can't see it, I can only feel it lol I'm used to it tho, It doesn't bother me, maybe I can get it removed when I go to dentist (it's just hard to go one with Covid etc) 

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4 hours ago, UrmiUndone said:

Likely edited but I kinda see chin filler. @lighterxx

I suspected as well but our most recent live content is this 

looking at this video as well as that picture in White's behind etc, it seems like it is more of editing. I don't see any chin changes in the live stream and I doubt it would fade that fast. 

Tho this is assuming live stream is most current content, to my knowledge Anniversary singing video is recorded much earlier compared to livestream which is well, live. Overall I hope he doesn't touch himself, he is gorgeous. Also I hated pledis shared pictures the second I saw because of how weird they are lmao