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Is it me who thinks IVE members are actually shorter, perhaps way more, than their listed official heights on profile? Maybe it is the camera angle, body proportions as well as face type, but boyband members around that listed height looks way taller and it has been long suspected that most of them especially till 3rd gen are way shorter. I am having hard time believing all of them are near 170 since every other female idol I knew who were 165> looked giant to me. I expected to be intimated by IVE too but now they seem short AF compared to how they were hyped. I think only Wonyoung in the group is 170> and even that might be a stretch. 

(Another group which I see suffering from this issue is AESPA and they also seems to have less gap between shortest and tallest member so that might be an issue but still I kinda find it believable for Karina to be 167.)

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3 minutes ago, good_morning said:

Yujin and Wonyoung are def taller than 170

Yeah That's what I also thought but their new videos kinda made me doubt. I was wondering if this was because of heels factor in older kpop videos because shorter idols also looked taller but now I am not sure.

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13 hours ago, Solfa said:

I wouldn’t single out IVE, female idols in general look shorter now on average than older gens, it seems to be an industry wise thing to give them higher official numbers for their height.

Seeya here, for example (warning, flashing lights, one of the dancers even has a seizure), vary between 162-167 cm, yet they look much taller than 4 gen idols of the same measurements.

Same variations with Wonder Girls here, who also look taller than idols of their measurements today

 

Wow, same experience! I used to initially think that it was because of my self-perception as the idols I stanned were older than me by nearly decade or so and as somebody who had been insecure about her size because I felt childish and small- but IVE in particular made me think. I mentioned camera angle because that can be factor but as somebody who has been dedicated to estimation of sizes on screen for a while now, kpop standards pretty much are the same across board and timeline.

In real life, even shorter people in their 150s especially women tend to look BIG (again depends on face type and body proportions) and a lot of people whose heights would be considered chibi in kpop world would be seen as giants.

Frankly, I always considered 160+ must rule in kpop official heights as something absurd because a lot of the girls looked way shorter than what I would expect from irl correlations and I always considered harmful because of how they affect one's self-perception. 

Nine Muses were also supposed to be really tall and it was possible to believe their profile height of 170+. IVE girls looked chibi though it was Rei who made me think because 169 looked absurd on her. I think subconsciously I do think Japanese girls are shorter or something. But....

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4 hours ago, shadygirl said:

I doubt she's that tall, you have to keep in mind that most male idols increase their height and her official height has been increasing steadily over the years and considering she's 17 years old now, she's passed her growth spurt. Also not to mention when folks kept on assuming gfriend sowon's height was 178cm, but we've had it confirmed time and time again it wasn't. The best comparison we have is between her and huening kai, who's officially 183cm, and if their height difference was just 6cm, i doubt it'd look that noticable as it does in this pic.

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Also keep in mind most idols are quite skinny and therefore seem taller than they really are.

She's 169-170. She has the same proportions I remember Sooyoung having and she's supposedly even shorter at 166.

 

1 hour ago, Misaki_Mei12 said:

I also think so, I think that the oldest is about 163 if you look closely you can see compared to yujin that her body is really small

Imo, Yujin is around 167/168 cm tbh now that I see.

I would say the rest of the members are around 163-166.

I think Yujin and Wonyoung was somewhat believable since audience knows they are very tall relative to Izone but Starship did a huge mistake by assigning gigantic impossible heights to the rest of the members though it was the Japanese member that made me think. 

(This also means a whole lot of Izone is in 150s)

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I wonder what is Itzy's and Aespa's heights. I used to believe their height but now I think they are likely shorter.

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https://www.instagram.com/p/BL5xReaBoU0/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link I wonder if she changed her nose or not.

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12 hours ago, elseelseelse2 said:

I agree, a lot of idols get work done while in high school when they're trainees so the high school photos can become suspect. Sometimes even before that, especially if they were already pre-teen models or ulzzangs (Taeyong, Karina, etc). We're way past the era of finding idols awkward MySpace era photos (never forget Tiffany's iconic posts), I think every 4th gen idol has put their teen photos through the Snow App. Official high school photos can also be edited to make the skin smoother etc. But then we're basically left with nothing for some of them because there are only baby photos, and nobody looks like their toddler self. Or we have really, really blurry photos and even the audition tapes can be potato quality (like Yuta has....one blurry photo from when he was in Japan and an audition tape that looks like it was filmed in someone's basement, but I still think that cannot be his natural nose). So we have to use what we can and also what we know about how noses and eyes and jaws normally look

I think we're past the era of plastic surgery that looks natural tbh. I feel like everyone's noses are getting sharper, more upturned, super high bridges, big lips and eyes, tiny chins. The compliment now is to look like an anime character or a doll.

Yuta has some baby photos that shows how he looks. I don't he looks much different tbh- maybe a bit less anime-y.

 

12 hours ago, elseelseelse2 said:

 

Jungwoo: nose job, eyes, a ton of filler in his cheeks and lips to make him the second taemin

 

Funny because I don't think he ever looked like Taemin lol. He looked very handsome in a masculine way.

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On 12/11/2021 at 7:05 PM, SepiaSkies said:

The eyebrows are completely throwing me off, they make him look like a supervillain and not necessarily in a good way. Other than that I agree that his face is particularly long looking today. Might be a combination of his beloved chin fillers and botox to the jaw muscles, that combo is known to elongate the face and make you look gaunt in the process. He's been looking fine for quite a while now, so this sudden change is quite jarring to see.

Going by the concert photos, I think he might be on steroids as well.

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23 minutes ago, Zaralei said:

How can you tell? I'm mostly just seeing vids of him and idk if it's because he's in motion or because of the quality, but oddly enough he doesn't look as... uncanny (and I mean this in the nicest way) as he did on mama. I saw a picture of his torso though and he seems fit, I just don't know how to differentiate if it's from working out or using steroids? 

Mama photos were edited so he will look uncanny. 

About roids, I would say given the workload he is in and the fact that he didn't have prominent abs even a month earlier and doesn't also seem to have body structure to support it, roids are likely. 

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16 hours ago, Lyanna15171 said:

This is pretty ridiculous speculation. There is no such thing as "a body structure to support abs." Abs are muscles, how prominent they look depends on how strong they are and how much fat is covering them. Assuming by body structure you mean how wide his shoulders and hips are, that has nothing to do with it.

As for them suddenly looking more prominent, that's probably not roids but dehydration. Most action stars and models these days dehydrate before shooting in order to get more prominent abs and other muscles. It's hard to maintain the low levels of body fat needed for those hyper-defined muscles, but if you don't drink liquid for a day your fat cells will literally shrink enough that the fat layer over the abs will pretty much go away (assuming it wasn't that thick in the first place). It's not healthy, but if you rehydrate well soon after it shouldn't have too much permanent health effects. Dehydrating for just a day can really have an effect on your physique. For example, I had a very bad stomach flu with severe nausea a couple of months ago. I didn't eat or drink anything except a few spoonfuls of rice for nearly 24 hours and I lost 3 pounds (1.4 kg) just in that time. Although, I was also vomiting and dry heaving a lot so that probably made it worse. 

They talk about that dehydration thing because it is more easier and safer for young fans to understand. Anybody who has remotely stepped inside a gym and/or has connections in the entertainment industry know about the PED abuse that goes on and with Kpop already suffering from EDs, time for PEDs to come.

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2 hours ago, plastichearts said:

everything about this post seems right but i think the tallest member now might be sungchan and not johnny, i think they're still pretty close in height but sungchan might be slightly taller (especially considering that he's 20 and will probably still grow?)

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here they're wearing the same shoes so ig its easier to tell

 

officially johnny is 184 and sungchan is 185. Looks about right.

also, the rumour in the market is Ten is 165 and Haechan was reported to be 164 a while back. Another poster also measured him as 171 from barefoot photos.

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33 minutes ago, elseelseelse2 said:

Hmm, here's an infamous photo of Sungchan with TXT that had people insisting Sungchan was over 185cm since he appears taller than Soobin, who is reportedly 185cm. But if you draw a line across the tops of their heads and the bottoms of their feet, Soobin is standing a bit behind Sungchan, is slouching, and actually is not that much shorter than Sungchan:

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And Sungchan has been measured on camera to be almost 185cm. Honestly height fluctuates throughout the day, Johnny and Sungchan probably are actually functionally around the same height?

Also I don't think Ten is quite that short or that Haechan is 164cm... here's Johnny and Ten walking side by side in flat sneakers:

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Here's the height difference of 185cm vs. 169cm, and 185cm vs. 165cm (this height comparer is so shady, it changes from an adult man to a child when you go below 166cm!):

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The height difference looks closer to the first than the second. Haechan is probably 171-173cm max.

Also I didn't take a screenshot because it was hard to get a good angle, but Jaehyun appeared a little shorter than Winwin in NCT World 2.0, and Winwin is supposed to be 180cm (Winwin is definitely shorter than Johnny, so 180cm give or take is probably right). So then Jaehyun being 174-177cm would work out.

 

Haechan was that short during his Rookie days and Johnny is slouching in that photo but yeah I think he is more like 5'6".

I wonder what's Taeyong's height though. He doesn't seem to be 174/5 to me.

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10 hours ago, smolsoo said:

ok. idk if this information is of any help but I know that there are a lot of people online who try to claim that Chenle is 178 or even taller which I highly doubt tbh

Back in 2018 on a self-written profile he claimed to be 173.5 .. this was when he was 16, so he could have grown more since then but also keep in mind that most men stop growing much more at around 16/17.(For comparison: in 2018 Jisung revealed (with a photo, this was when he was 16) that his height was 178.8. And now 3 years later it was confirmed that his height is at exactly 180,  so between the ages of 17-almost 20 he has only grown 1.2cm. basically most men don't grow much more after turning 16/17, that's what I'm trying to get at)

After some years of exaggerating their heights but also calling each other out for it/teasing each other, I feel like the dreamies got a bit more open to admit slightly lower numbers. Like, I think Jeno/Jaemin/Chenle used to say that they are around 177-178, but in 2020 for another self-written profile Chenle wrote down 176 and Jeno 176.8 (Renjun said 171... I honestly give him 170 at most). Jaemin keeps avoiding answering the question about his height. I'm not saying those are their real height but I think they are closer, so maybe 1-2cm less. I need one photo of them standing barefoot in a straight line, please.

 

(Also, I think Yangyang is part of the short-line too. His height fluctuates A LOT but at his shortest he looks almost the same as Ten. I think Yangyang is max 170-171 but idk his height is a huge mystery to me) 

Yangyang is the same height as Haechan. I remember seeing a photo of them together.

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IVE And EXO height comparison. Chosen because of similar camera angles. You decide

 

3 minutes ago, sawarin said:

how many nose procedures has yuna gone through? i remember someone said that she probably did twice but i just saw some clips of her at the christmas gayo and literally i feel like her nostrils are OUT there? like, more open and it’s messing with my head because it looks so off? 

3? She keeps touching her nose.

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I wonder if this has been discussed here, but The idols who kinda resemble(d) Jaejoong the closest are Minho Shinee and Mingyu Seventeen. Among girls, I do think Ahn Yujin resembles him too apart from Hyuna. Now I am not sure how much of this is intentional plastic surgery or just good find.

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12 hours ago, filesunderseal said:

Yeah, I agree. Sungchan moreso resembles Jaejoong than 2021 Taeyong does. 

Nah Sungchan doesn't resemble Jaejoong at all. 

 

14 hours ago, Lyanna15171 said:

I'm sorry but w h a t???? None of these people resemble Jaejoong in my opinion. The only person I think really resembles Jaejoong is Taeyong, and he doesn't now nearly as much as he used too. Taeyong's face widened a bit over the years which made him resemble Jaejoong less. 

I think Yuta also looked like Jaejoong. Also I think Doyoung has the potential to look like him among the existing SM artistes.

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1 hour ago, Lyanna15171 said:

Actually pre jawshave Doyoung did look a bit like Jaejoong. And I think that SM might be trying to have Yuta look more like Jaejoong, or at least have a similar face shape to him, with all the chin messing about. But I don't think it's working. 

Jaejoong had strong jawline but he did have a more V-shaped face from front.

You are talking about the SM museum photo with blue background? He doesn't really look like him, but if I was SM I would have picked him to be Jaejoong 2.0 over Taeyong because his face template is much more flexible. 

About Yuta, I think he is pushing himself more on the lines of visual kei artistes and anime male characters in general. I think his target is to look like anime character irl and would also say he's trying to prevent aging? Most Japanese men I know aged horribly. 

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On 12/28/2021 at 5:42 AM, mEeEeE said:

!?! Sungchan looks a lot like Jaejoong except Jaejoong has a stronger jaw.

Jaejoong is like a combination of Sungchan and Taeyong 

I don't see any resemblance between Jaejoong and Sungchan apart from makeup and editing.

 

On 12/28/2021 at 4:20 AM, ahhhhhgsgsgdstn said:

Can you give any examples of japanese men aging horribly? I haven't heard of that before lol

Takuya Kimura is the most prominent example but generally loads of them. Also Takeru Sato and Aiba Masaki who comes to my mind. Generally a huge chunk of them. Korean men even Chinese men age better.

Though I personally think the fillers are aging him even more.

 

 

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5 hours ago, Zaralei said:

I might be clowning but am I the only one who thinks Heeseung and Takeru Satoh could be brothers? Hahaha 

I think Heeseung would do well cosplaying as Kenshin Himura lmao, Takeru Satoh was only 23 when the first film of Rurouni Kenshin was released and Heeseung is turning 21 this year

Nah Takeru doesn't look like Heesung at all. 

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SPECULATION SO TAKE IT WITH A BUCKET OF SALTED PEANUTS: Did anybody else have hard time id-ing Yuta, Taeil and Haechan? It is good they mostly have different hairstyles and because I have occasional propagnasia but something really feels off about all the three. Like, I really feel the weird need of id-ing them as one member but I never had this issue with Winwin and he left group way back.

And frankly, after watching Fire Truck the only song with the OG lineup I really have a crazy theory (sorry it is a bit long and would sound weird)

One thing that I noticed about Yuta is that there has been an attempt of giving him an entirely new face. He was very good looking before, but I don't think he would have grown up to look like like he do now. This is also perhaps the reason he uses so much makeup and editing? I have seen his no makeup face without much editing, you can see how much alterations and scars his face have and I'm not sure if they are trying to make him look Korean rather something else. That said, I have recently discovered another idol who kinda looks like him- Chan from TO1 and he was also SM trainee who was supposedly up for NCT. And then there is Sungchan who also got the same face "transplant".
Now, I am not sure if they are trying to recreate Jaejoong because Taeyong is already pushed as the one and Sungchan is perhaps pushed to be his replacement- but I don't think they tried to give Yuta Jaejoong's face.

That said, Winwin also resembles Changmin from TVXQ and much more faithfully than  Jaejoong-Taeyong. If I am not wrong, according to OG lineup Taeil-Haechan-Yuta was supposed to be the vocalists. Interestingly, another thing that I have noticed is Taeil and Haechan apart from looking somewhat similar to untrained eyes also has been pushed to be somewhat conforming to the same standards Yuta is also held. All the three has been the ones who cross-dressed as girls in various times and the skits they have been part of also pushes the same standards. Infact I would also say SM stylists have started giving Haechan occasionally a styling that makes him look very similar to Yuta. And based on past videos, I have also seen that styling being pushed on Taeil as well. 

Now, I have sometimes wondered who is the #3 of NCT. Not Ten because he seems to be meant for some other unit different from 127 and Jaehyun also seems to have a different niche. Also not the Dream guys since they also seem to be part of other plans. From what I have observed, that position seems to be from someone 127 and seems to be rotational between Taeil, Yuta, Doyoung and Haechan. (Yuta was the one who climbed other people's backs in Black on Black)

Doyoung wasn't supposed to be part of 127 but then they suddenly added him. Taeil, Haechan and Yuta look very similar (the former two even more so naturally and all 3 seems to be pushed to look the same) and ironically, I think Doyoung also tries to fit that standard nowadays all of a sudden.

 Now, going by what I heard about 127 and NCT on whole back then, they were supposed to be a more YG inspired group with SM standards. And BIG BANG is known for having two star contrasting rappers and one vocalist with specific sexualised styling who also has a signature role whose dance moves include hip thrusts and grinding. Jimin from BTS is also of this category but while he and Taeyang are way more recognised, I distinctly remember Xiah Junsu being one of the first guys to be in this position (Main vocalist, lead dancer, variety).

So my theory is :

1) NCT127 was meant as a 5 member group whose members are chosen on the basis of the visuals and is a recreation of TVXQ targeted towards the crowd which likes a more rap based grunge stuff .A lot of stuff NCT do are also saccharine recreation of BIGBANG variety stuff and BTS also became popular by the same way aka copying BIGBANG with their own twist and guess what? BTS also is allegedly inspired from BIG BANG and they also have 7 members(also BAP and GOT7 who have 7 members). Interestingly, as much as these groups have their star vocalists- they could never find their Taeyang.(This is also perhaps the reason they have 7 members instead of 5- though they have much better visuals)

2) Yuta-Taeil-Haechan is replacement for the main vocalist of the OG planned group who is a placeholder of Junsu with a very specific visuals and then they added Doyoung not because the Chinese unit got cancelled, but because his voice is the closest to what they want musically from this member. This member from what I see atleast based on stuff I have seen from 127 is apart from the very specific visuals, is also supposed to be the flower boy and cross-dresser who is shipped with all other members and generally seen in a more feminine light. (Yuta has ships with all the other members of OG NCT127)He is also the one who is pushed to be in charge of the sexualised choreography (I think they eventually shifted some of these responsibilities to Taeyong but I have also seen Yuta and Haechan more so the later doing this aspect but less) and is someone who is involved in a very slapstick comedy style of variety which includes constant cross-dressing(?). I would say this member is also meant to be little bit younger than Taeyong from atleast some of the stuff I have seen from varieties (this is also the reason why they mostly exclude Taeil from the equation? he is oldest and older than Taeyong but Fire Truck era scripting has a style which makes me think Taeyong was supposed to be the oldest member of the group which is why he is the leader)

3) Now question is who is the idol the hypothetical NCT member is based on? Interestingly, around the time NCT first being fully formalised, NUEST and Seventeen was becoming popular and they have Ren and Jeonghan, who especially the latter seems very close to the archetype I am talking about. Infact, visually if you see- the resultant visuals pushed on Yuta in particular and the others on whole is also similar to Ren and Jeonghan.

4) NCT also doesn't have any star vocalist and/or the flower boy and its heavily based on Taeyong and Mark but I don't think it was originally the plan. Rather, they could never find the specific person they wanted to be the other anchor of the group.

5) Interestingly, apart from Ren and Jeonghan- another idol Taeil-Haechan-Yuta is resembles heavily (and at this point I think the resemblance, more so for Yuta is artificial) is Jeongyeon. I used to think they all look like Jeongyeon (that is why I started to follow the 3) but then I realised that the resemblance is more made-up than it is actually and more so for Yuta. Infact I would say the Korean guys Taeil and Haechan looks more similar to her especially Taeil.

6) Given that 127 was supposed to be a fangirl wet dream, I have theorised the hypothetical main vocalist is also inspired from a pre-existing idol who used to be super big around the same time Jaejoong and TVXQ became big. 

7) Here comes the speculation part. I think Jeongyeon has heavy similarities with J-pop idol Jin Akanishi and it is also apparent from their childhood photos. Interestingly Taeil Haechan Yuta especially Taeil has similarities with him

KAT-TUN used to be huge in the early 2000s and their rise and accomplishments were pretty extraordinary and influential. They held concerts before debut and was slated to be big but eventually got halted because of Jin's stupidity and narcissism. He also left the group around 2010 and thus they couldn't be bigger. I remember seeing KATTUN vs TVXQ, Hero vs Jin threads in multiple East Asian entertainment fandoms (back then Hallyu wasn't that big people used to follow Japan and Korean entertainments more together) around 2007/08 (that's when I got into this stuff)

9) Jin also has also the exact same qualities you see SM trying to assign their hypothetical member- high pitched voice with stylised singing, sexualised dancing and behaviour in general, variety skills, cross-dressing apart from the visuals. He definitely seems to be the good-looking/SM (who is obviously very inspired from Johnny's) version of Taeyang and Jimin.

So conclusion :
NCT127 was supposed to be a more BIGBANG inspired revitalisation of TVXQ targeted at both new fans and older fans which was supposed to have somebody extremely similar to Jin Akanishi as the Star Vocalist of the group. I think SM had figured out Jaejoong is popular because of his visuals and hardcore kpop fans seem to like rappers and dancers more so Taeyong was an appropriate fit. I think depending on songs, this member would also have been the only one who would have vocal lines(perhaps intricate ones given SM's history?). NCT127 initial lineup was chosen more on the basis of visuals and I genuinely think they wanted all korean members but couldn't though I think they would have pushed this hypothetical member into learning Japanese culture even more vigorously. (Pledis promoted both Ren and Jeonghan in Japan more heavily and they are both Koreans)

Funny, Jeongyeon got into SM around 2009/10 but she refused the offer and she is the one who fits the visual standards the most.

PS: I think this is the real reason SM and kpop in general is trying to shift to AI.

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12 minutes ago, Kisoli said:

I don't know if you'll believe me but I once squeezed my cheek and a concavity like that formed. There was muscle twitching and when I looked back at the mirror my cheek was different and has been like that ever since. I believe human bodies can change in a very large variety of ways naturally and in many weird ways too

I have seen people having hollow cheeks naturally and then there are people whose cheeks become hollow after losing weight.

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6 hours ago, elseelseelse2 said:

See, this is why we need this forum so that we can combine our powers of observation on all the different facial features

And yes, I completely agree. Weight loss only takes away the fat that was covering the bone structure beneath and makes you sharper looking. You can see here with Yeonho in 2020 (sorry for the giant screenshot):

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Same bone structure as pre-debut. Tbh I do wonder if he did buccal fat removal later on (or lost even more weight?), because he still has that chubby lower face. In 2021, he looked much thinner in the lower face (but definitely did not shave his jaw). It was a sexy concept and I feel like that always translates into "thinner, thinner, thinner!" for idols:

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Idk, could be nothing. I also took a look at some of the other members, so for Gyehyeon (born 1999, debuted at 20 years old):

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I think he's around middle school age in this which isn't the best for comparison. Post-debut:

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Looks like eyes (widened slightly to expose the double eyelid more) + nose job to me.

Dongheon (born 1995) is also an interesting case because there's nothing of him before he was a trainee - he was part of SMRookies before he moved to Jellyfish. He actually looks like Doyoung, but Doyoung if you'd only seen him once and tried to rebuild him (I wonder if that + his age was why he was dropped from the NCT line-up). Here's him in SMRookies:

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And then post-debut:

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The only thing I can guess from these is he probably had a nose job (it has that "penis" shape with the ultra straight bridge).

On the subject of age face changes, I found this paper recently (https://www.hindawi.com/journals/tswj/2014/301501/) that discusses how our features change in puberty and your early 20s, it breaks it down from the jaw to the chin to the nose and lips. It's quite wordy but it also explains a lot of statements I see people casually throwing around, for example, "well, I didn't have a nose job but my nose changed from when I was a little kid" - of course it would change, that's why you shouldn't use baby pictures to compare. My nose in kindergarten and my nose at 16 years old were different too. Your nose changes from the ages of 6-14 (and the height may still increase up until you're 18). But using post-puberty pictures when the idols are in high school vs. current day? Yeah, that might not be puberty anymore coincidentally when they joined an entertainment agency too

 

Nah he doesn't look like Doyoung at all. He looks like Yuta+Johnny instead.

 

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23 hours ago, Kiwi123 said:

Do you guys think Irene looks so much different and a bit older? now. She went MIA for a long time after her scandal broke out and now she looks drastically different. I wonder if it is due to  stress from the situation because i don’t think she got any PS.

i think this is from 2020.

 

From RV’s appearance at Gaon Chart Awards.

 

she looks like tiffany snsd

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6 hours ago, UNKNOWNFOOL said:

I was anticipating Nmixx debut for Jinni, she is the prettiest ( in my opinion) , I thought that I was going to find a lot of discussions of possible procedures here,  but I'm genuinely surprised that there's almost nothing...  

Well, I found this video...

 I suggest that Sullyoon (18) had a nose job! I think that they ( JYP) reduced the nostrils'size and made the nose's bridge higher. 

I genuinely thought it was NCT's Mark lol