Official Plastic Surgery Thread

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19 minutes ago, KentasGlittery EyeMakeup said:

Silicone in lips was a huge trend in the 90s and 80s and then fillers started becoming more and more known to the world and the women who got the silicone started regretting it because unfortunately that thing starts looking worse and worse by the time and it mutates and grows and you can't really remove it because it merges with your body so a lot of them had to have reconstructive surgeries which were really expensive and in some cases those are impossible to do because the situation is severe. Almost no one gets silicone nowadays but I have an acquaintance who pretty obviously has gotten them in her lips and her lips already look dreadful and it's only been around five years.

From plus side, fillers can be dissolved, there is even special products doctors use to do that, it just, your skin will sag after it gets emptied out of fillers after like years, thats why i dont understand idols going heavy on fillers, it fills their skin, causing it to get more strecthed out, then after fillers go, they need to get more fillers as skin already sagged and same amount will not be enough to get the desired effect. I dont see people with alot of procedures around me, usually nose, rather than lips, so i hope they can determine what to get fillers for and what to not. I remember watching this?

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for example, while fillers are obvious its not too uncomfortable level, to get that level you need to be really careful, which most people hell doctors are not, fillers can look good, there are alot of instances where it looks good, people just go too extreme with it and doctors wont stop them. Perk in general is filler can dissolve, easily too, i hope this will help people not regret too much. Otherwise really thin nose fashion, thats not it i hope people stop with it honestly, no hate to ps ofc, but it is extremely uncomfortable of a look which some of the people in instagram account you shared have. 

 

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19 minutes ago, Lolly21 said:

Hmm yes. His face looks a bit longer on that last photo but then sometimes he looks like the 2nd photo from left to right in the last row... It may be fillers or any other non-invasive cosmetic procedure I think.

yeah he switches between last row last two photos frequently, i think its botox, while botox is fading, while botox is new, he goes between those quite frequently 

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34 minutes ago, Lolly21 said:

Yes. I'm actually surprised but happy that he seems to not get anything invasive, because we all know that even ticking all the beauty standards doesn't exempt you from going bat-sh*t crazy with plastic surgery and looking uncanny. 

 

 

Might be company tbh, I saw many idols get ton of ps the second they leave their company, I think companies try to stop idols from unnecessary procedures (aka ones company doesn't suggest) I suspected this most with Pristin I think 

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3 minutes ago, Lolly21 said:

Oh, I was not aware of that. Interesting to know, thanks. Though I'm a bit curious if those idols that leave their companies pay those surgeries themselves or how. What do you think?

Definitely pay themselves. If it helps I remember a blind item about Bom, where her company banned ps for her, but she kept escaping, so I assume she pays for that herself. In Korea ps is not too expensive tbh, most idols can easily pay for it °^°

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1 hour ago, UrmiUndone said:

I hope Jeongyeon doesn't get addicted to PS. She seems to have low self-esteem and the bullying doesn't seem to stop. A lot of my other biases have had a lot of plastic surgeries so I kinda feel bad for them. Wish they could accept themselves as they are. 

i doubt she will she is one of the most liked member's of Twice, even internet comments, while like every celebrity has some mean comments here and there, she is mostly seen positively. 

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25 minutes ago, daltsuki said:

i have been a lurker on this thread for months and i finally decided to make an account because i have something i'm confused about:

i've never had surgery but i have marks on the bottom of my nostrils that look like it, i always used those marks to confirm wether an idol had a nose job or not but now that i see them on me i'm very f*cking confused i don't remember having alarplasty... somebody help

oh do you mind sending a photo of your nose? you dont have to show your face you can cut it to show only nostrils if you want

otherwise i sometimes scar my nose corners due to my nails so, it might be something like that as well, our commentary is not necessarily always right too, afterall even trained surgeons sometimes can not notice all surgery

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37 minutes ago, daltsuki said:

yeah that''s gonna be a hard pass lol, you don't wanna see that

 

from what i've seen it looks like people naturally have a bump where the nostrils are attached to the cutaneous upper lip and that disapears after surgery, i still have a bump it just appears to be dented so i guess i'll be more careful before saying every single person on the face of the earth had alarplasty, thanks for helping 

Lol it's ok, rather than bumps search for clear lines, it can be pink it can be slightly shinier than surrounding skin usually these two are clear signs

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3 minutes ago, Rei sakuma said:

4th/3rd gen nose job counter

1. Enhypen - 5/7

2. Txt - 3/5 

3. Aespa - 4/4? I'm not sure if Giselle got one

4. Gidle - 3/6

5. Nct 127 - 4-5/10

6. dream - 1/7

7. BP - 4/4

8. Astro - 2/6

9. stayc - ?

10. purple kiss -  /

11. Itzy - 2/5

I'm counting older groups in this because the younger members are the same age as the members in the newer groups now. (i'm doing noses because that seems the most common type of surgery apart from the eyes but that can be debated whether eyelid surgery is a big deal or not). 

 Would you say that the newer gen have more/less surgery compared to the older gen? I've seen this questioned asked before and people always say that the newer gen are more natural (they usually always bring up Girls Generation as an example) but I'm not sure this is true. I think the surgeons are just getting better and the work done looks less obvious.  

I would say newer gen has more work. Old kpop idols would change few features, now idols get full on new faces, thats why features fit better together and thats why its harder to see. Kind of like something we talked before, solely getting nose job would look more fake than getting all of your face

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28 minutes ago, Naija1 said:

Hi guys, I like to read this thread a lot. Today Oh My Girl has their comeback with Dun Dun Dance, and I knew that Mimi's lips aren't natural, but I got so surprised when I've seen this scene. Here lips are HUGE. Has she got them any bigger since the last comeback? I am little concerned for her...

I think it did a bit, her upper lip was alot thinner

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4 minutes ago, Rei sakuma said:

Is this kim chaewon????

tzuyu i think... 

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20 minutes ago, Rei sakuma said:

oh lol something about the hair and lips reminded me of her. It could also just be the photo angle. But if that's tzuyu, she definitely looks different.

yep!! definitely tzuyu i did reverse image search bcs i confused myself lol

 

18 minutes ago, zhvero said:

Am I losing it or does Jungkooks nose look a little different in the recent run bts episode (140)?

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Ok I took screenshots but for the life of me I can't figure out how to upload them but it was from 9:09 to 9:14 (the part where Jungkook messed up in the game and no one noticed but he still stood up) that made me realize. If you pause the video and look at him you'll see his nose looks a bit bigger/bulkier at the tip and even droops now, which it didn't do at all after he got his implant removed. The video itself looks recent too because of their hairstyles. So, what's going on? Is Jungkook trying to get his nose to look like it did before (via filler) without getting an actual implant inserted again? 

 

this one?

https://giant.gfycat.com/GiantNippyDassierat.mp4

i will say... maybe? what he aims is basically so hard to mimic tho, a bit bulkier and nose tip going down look is a bit more popular now maybe he is trying to return something closer to his original nose tip to immitate that, but i doubt it is doable. 

maybe its something completely different tho, i realized it looks really smooth? round bridge area? it looked less so beforehand if i dont misremember 

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53 minutes ago, zhvero said:

Yes! I wish I could upload my screenshots but if you look at the video and pause it at different times, his nose it doesn't look like this anymore

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His nose droops now whereas it didn't before like in the pics. But it's always been pretty smooth tho 

I agree. It would be really hard to get his nose to look the way it did before without actually just getting another implant put in. Maybe he realizes that his new nose doesn't fit his face as well as his old nose (with the implant) and for whatever reason isn't getting another implant but still trying to get the look? I'm not sure but Jungkook sure has messed with his nose a lot so I hope he doesn't keep messing with it and start getting complications or something (maybe thats why he had the implant removed in the first place) 

I realized why it appeared more smooth, I missed the point where he removed the implant, what I describe as not as smooth is implant itself on tip lol, otherwise his nose seems tinier? now. Maybe that was the aim instead of going back, him slowly changing his nose shape without causing any gossip among fandoms? I definitely see what you are talking about tho, it feels a bit like balloon going down, idk how to explain lol 

For image upload you can try imgbb, imgur makes troubles for me these days so I use that 

 

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22 minutes ago, zhvero said:

Yeah after he got the implant removed his nose was smaller and even now it still looks small but the tip is different. I'm not completely sure what you mean, but honestly no one even noticed his nose job.. when he got the implant or when it was even removed

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My screenshots are bad but it was hard taking them but his nose like I said before is different at the tip. Before (after removing the implant and seemingly not doing anything else to his nose) his nose was short and didn't droop and now it's bigger at the tip and it droops. It actually kinda looks like an in-between his implant nose and his implant free nose. If you watch the run bts episode its easier to see, but his nose is still overall smaller but has the big tip and droop. Like he took some things from both noses and made a new one (smaller not as big or high but still being bulky at the tip). 

Thank you for letting me know! 

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Sorry for me speaking in a confused manner I slept whole day away and still a bit dazed lol 

Otherwise, fans if they are stubborn enough can be completely blind to any change. I saw people thinking everything is natural when it is so obvious - even when you can see from a mile- so them not noticing him doing tiny tweaks constantly to his nose would surely be impossible to notice unless you are like us, who actively notice ps and actually be conscious of its existence lol. Mix small ps with a radical hair change too, fans will only thing your hair style is causing a change, not a surgery. 

 

Otherwise, his nose ATM, after watching video again and again, is not too much like his old nose but more like one of the TXT members, Taehyun I think? His nose really remind me him now. Maybe it's the same doctor. It's only smaller and less ski slope. From plus side while he frequently makes changes he didn't so far messed anything up. I don't suggest him to make any more change tho rip, nose is a sensitive area to start with even without any change

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19 minutes ago, zhvero said:

Its okay lol. Doing small tweaks is the best way to go but honestly even if an idol does big changes fans are still completely oblivious and don't notice. So, I don't think he needs to be as subtle, but I'm glad he's being smart and is. 

The shape/look of their noses are similar, but they really did that Taehyun guy dirty. His nose looks really obvious while at least Jungkooks looks natural. I think Jungkook is at a point where whatever he does now is crucial. Up until this point virtually everything's hes done hasn't been bad (the last epicanthoplasty being unnecessary and, personally, I think his last nose job too) and he still looks good, but if he were to continue doing all these small unnecessary tweaks he can mess up his face. I feel like now is the point for him to stop and really consider if anything else he does will actually be worth it. 

Jungkook has a more boney face shape which really helps I think, and I think it's his most obvious feature along with his mouth shape, you focus on his face even if you pay attention to his nose. For Taehyun, his face's most obvious feature from very start was his nose and eyes, changing both makes it so easy to notice him. Like I look at Jungkook and my mind lays attention to overall face, I look at Taehyun and bam my brain goes his nose!! It's unintentional, but I think having a face that can handle ps is important in this area. 

Still, having a face that can handle ps, doesn't mean you should get it, he truly touched up alot, so I hope he cuts it, he doesn't need to change anything ATM too, I understand removing implant, but anything more at this point will make things more fragile. 

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5 hours ago, likeafever said:

Hi, I usually just lurk here. I'm curious which idols do y'all think haven't done any work? Or at least 90% sure they haven't 

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There is Svt Scoups, Woozi, Vernon, Jun, Wonwoo (?) if you don't count minor to ignorable procedures Mingyu (Forehead or Hair Transplant) , Hoshi (fillers, Veneer (possibly contact lens ones) ...

Maybe we should try to make a list

 

Edit: seeing sf9 and treasure, maybe idols chosen via streetcasting or via their looks from the start are less likely to touch up anything? 

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1 hour ago, meeeplet said:

I think a list is a great idea! For SF9 and treasure, street casting may be part of it, but I think an interesting point to bring up is involvement in the industry since a young age. Both Chani and Moonbin (Astro) were child actors and Yedam was on kpop star as a child. Junkyu was also a child model though it looks like he may have had some work done. 

This is baby Chani with baby Moonbin. So adorable:

oh you might be right now... Vernon is child model, and Jun is a child actor, maybe getting praises for your looks from young age does help in this situation?? How odd i never thought it like this 

(with momoland nancy)

 

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19 minutes ago, itsokayman said:

I've been reading back logs of this thread and I have to say, the height debate is quite interesting. I wanted to add this picture because I feel like it really proves that there is no way he is 180 cm tall.

He must be at the most 177 cm. He looks so small in this pic.

Yuta is said to be around 175 ish and there is definitely not a 5 cm difference between them.

This height argument always fucks up my mind who is what now 

Then I found this picture too now I'm even more confused 

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3 minutes ago, neo velvet said:

off topic but i've realized most of the nct members have really large heads proportionally to their bodies, and these pics drive home that point cause jaehyun's head looks massive in that first pic next to the girls with normal sized heads, but small next to yuta

Knetzification of us I thought same lol 

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5 minutes ago, itsokayman said:

Let's start a debate about seventeen's height too. I don't know much about them but I swear there's always gotta be a few members  with fake heights. I think the one of the far left (to jae's right) is about 180ish. We can't see their legs so I'll assume they're not wearing platforms. Either I'm wrong about the jae post or both of them are adding cms to their heights.

I think back then we discussed svt too °^° in his official profile DK is noted as 179 (one at left) , if Jaehyun is less than 180, automatically it reduces his height too, tho I think Pledis didn't exaggerate their height to level of SM lol, I am only pretty sure Mingyu is honest about his height (at least largely so), he previously said he is 187 and with insoles goes up around 192-195 (it was from a VLIVE but I don't remember where rip) 

I personally think more or less every idol fake their height a little tho lol 

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12 minutes ago, Owlet said:

I read somewhere that tall idols sometimes reduce their heights so the other members of their group don't seem as short as they actually are (therefore the short members don't have to fake their heights as much)

I feel like Rosé could be one of those, but maybe not for the sake of her members, just to seem a bit shorter probably.

TBh Mingyu insisted he is 183 till admitting he is 187, because he obviously (very obviously) grew since debut. I found this picture, from around debut era I believe? It was from a football match as well so insoles etc are not possible 

Mingyu at debut was registered as 183 if I'm not mistaken. I don't know how tall was Jaehyun at that time but I would say it's impossible for them to only have 3 cm difference there, it's at least 5-6 cm or more difference

Wait everyone how tall is a vending machine, I'm gonna use them as measurement 

 

ALRIGHT a normal vending machine in general is 182.9 cm 

Mingyu is definitely over 183 by this logic °^° , now it's time to put Mingyu next to others 

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5 hours ago, itsokayman said:

Let's start a debate about seventeen's height too. I don't know much about them but I swear there's always gotta be a few members  with fake heights. I think the one of the far left (to jae's right) is about 180ish. We can't see their legs so I'll assume they're not wearing platforms. Either I'm wrong about the jae post or both of them are adding cms to their heights.

 Been hours and I only JUST realized you are talking about Baekho!! He is 175!!

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5 hours ago, Rei sakuma said:

Jungkook's 173cm, if true, is really obvious here.

MCs stand closer to camera, so they tend to look huge next to others just to let you know, i watched absolute ton of Inkigayo stages when Mingyu was MC o.o 

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6 minutes ago, UrmiUndone said:

Dunno about others but Jimin looks really short.

Oh he is probably short lol, im just saying mc pictures are bit fooling unless you can clearly see they stand next to each other (even then we have another topic to consider, insoles)

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4 hours ago, loveablejoy said:

That photo looks edited. There is no way that photo is real

 

1 hour ago, rananicolee said:

This picture is edited. He looks under 5' here so yeah. Edited.

Found, 2:48

https://www.vlive.tv/video/114087 

Either slightly edited or perfectly timed, around 2:25  you can see bigger size difference but its due to one slumping, other puffing his chest out a bit, its not due to height. 

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3 hours ago, loveablejoy said:

Oh my...Take, Jin & Rm look so big and JK, Suga & JM look so small....I didn't even notice...

tbh i dont like comparing sitting poses, torso and leg lenghts are different, so if you have long legs you will look damn short sitting down, even if your total is like 185 etc

 

3 hours ago, rananicolee said:

Exactly. It might be both but Yoongi was slumping. 

hardcore slumping, he also put his legs further in when sitting so it looks like his legs are short too lol