Official Plastic Surgery Thread

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2 hours ago, sooa_t said:

speaking of seventeen...is dokyeom's nose really his or he did something there? for me his nose is really beautiful and is perfect for his face, same with wonwoo

Wonwoo is natural, you can see his bump at times as well, Seokmin had breathing issues and had his done predebut. We talked about them alot at past, you search it up as well. 

 

51 minutes ago, luvhjihan said:

hey i am new here!! just wanted to ask if you see any cosmetic surgery in shuhua gidle.
I really think it's natural but this is kpop industry so there must be something

I will leave photos of predebut and now

She seems natural to me, almost insistently so. Who knows we might get a change in future however, Korean idols tend to resist temptation to be perfect for years only to suddenly make a big change. 

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20 minutes ago, Eirene29 said:

To me it looks like it's just different hair styling? I don't see a big difference. It could be that they cut his baby hair or shave it off. I think it's pretty common.

Maybe? Its just here, as a before/after, it really reminded me Suzy. It might be haircut, hair transplant... There is alot of things that can make you get same effect. Men dont really have baby hair tho, baby hair exists due to having long hair at childhood usually, so most men dont really have one Read next post !!

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10 minutes ago, Eirene29 said:

Uh...man don't have baby hair???? I'm shocked lol

They technically do but lets say females show around %50 men around %10, usually with men what they think as baby hair is actually just short newly growing hair, i remember reading a study about it but god knows where rip

Edit: Rip couldnt find the study, till i manage to find assume it as not factual, as there are too many varied human types

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23 minutes ago, hshlhb said:

i can see it, it's kinda what mingyu did (i think? i'm not too familiar with him) and it definitely suits baekho

Yeah, for Mingyu it seems like he had his widow peak transplanted somewhere else, so i am curious if thats what baekho did as well to open his forehead up a bit? Tho it would be in a bigger scale. Like hairline revision rather? Maybe i am thinking it wrong, rather than changing his forehead, maybe he wanted to change his hairline, like Mingyu, you can see it was pretty uneven before. Usually people assume hairline revision is pretty drastic but it might be smallest of stuff as well. 

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7 hours ago, Metrico said:

Quite frankly it could have just been natural receding or maturing too (same with Mingyu more or less) and they decided to "even it out" with the straighter full line across his head. I think at one point there was rumblings that Baekho had some hair loss going on which I wouldn't doubt. I remember seeing a bald spot in the middle of his cowlick when he leaned over once on a vlive (or the like). His hair is naturally very curly like tight curl curly he's been straightening it for years I'd imagine that plus the regular dying and bleaching has been pretty harsh. Whatever their solution it did give him a more elegant mature look.

Other than hairline to answer that other question about Baekho having any work done I honestly think he's nearly or entirely natural (maybe minor nose work if at all) and he absolutely looks different (and better) because of it. If it was work it was very well done or something minor like occasional filler (on nose?). But generally he just seems very hands off and has looked the same just with varied weight and body composition.  He nearly never wears colored contacts because his eyes are naturally a very saturated brown too. 

I feel like a lot of other idols had they had his face shape would have gotten buccal fat reduction by now but Baekho hasn't and seems to flux all the time. He has a unique full face but also smaller lower face so he also has these sharp and handsome top-heavy 3/4 angles going on. So distinct. Weird comparison but I think he resembles like gold statues of Buddha lol especially with his ears.  

Make style hair loss is losing hair from corners first, you wont lose onky hair from widow peak and keep everything same

 

Like here, starts from corners first, they can lose hair female style too ofc but it means opening a bit behind, still not an area covers widowpeak. Hairloss has a system, many dont know, so i wanted to explain

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2 hours ago, Metrico said:

Some men lose temples and then the widows peak recedes taking the entire hairline back, since Baekho has a farther back hairline I imagine it might have just receeded entirely or or he got electrolysis? 

They're absolutely one of the most natural looking groups. I dont think Aron has done much at all either he's got an atypical handsomeness I feel like if they were to really "beautify" him they would have done it long ago. 

I think Ren would be out of this world handsome with his original nose with how he looks and dresses now, being larger it added forward projection to his face which he lacks now but he absolutely looks amazing in their recent MV. 

honestly maybe? i am not the biggest expert in hair procedures honestly, its such a hard topic for me, i am happy to listen if someone can explain what they think tho o.o 

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3 minutes ago, UrmiUndone said:

Eyes of Asian people usually become smaller with age

Yeah most celebrities also try to look like their childhood. That's why thread does not really consider childhood pictures unless they are big enough. 

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11 minutes ago, Jikrytae said:

Unless they want to say people look different than they did in childhood. Then childhood photos are suddenly fair game. 

I am just explaining honestly, this is a case for Yoona too for example

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20 minutes ago, TaeYerin_sss... said:

In celebration of me never shutting the fuck up about Yerin, is anyone familiar as to whether or not she's had any procedures? 15& always seemed like the duo that JYP left cosmetically untouched but I'm not entirely sure.

seems like she did her eyes(maybe) and nose!! I remember knetz were confused about it too? I remember she said eyelids appeared naturally, but current ones look more refined and a bit deeper, for her nose, its more narrow, unless pictures i found are very edited, I think these two only

I found some pictures of her as well, i hope they are all correct, because honestly i am not an avid follower T^T forgive me if i made a mistake

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(these two are from 2016, for you to see the nose)

After

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(for nose^)

 

 

 

Her current nose is alot sharper, her face slimmed down alot too, butI think it is more of a natural process than anything, as she grew as well. Her jawline seems interesting but I didnt find anything else. For her eyes, I think she got something done to fix previous one, however for this I might be wrong, double eyelids can develop later and my comment about her eyes depend on her eyeshape change. 

I definitely like what she did, it gave her a very dreamy feeling, like mixture of Rose and Pristin Xiyeon, with more dreamyness. 

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45 minutes ago, TaeYerin_sss... said:

Yes all the photos you linked are of her! Thanks for them too btw that black and white one I did not have!

Ooh yeah that makes sense. She does have this dreamy vibe and the difference between her then and now is not too jarring, I like how they went about her procedures. Age and growth is definitely a factor too cause she debuted at 15 and is now 23, lol.

Thanks for the answer!

Her biggest change is making changes at T zone tbh, so it is not much to start, nose and eyebrows. Especially cosndiering they are very key features. And no problem!! I am glad i found a picture you didnt have lol

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15 hours ago, purplefrancis said:

i agree with you!! her nose tip looks a lot slimmer and more defined.

after:

i haaaaaaaate using selfies as evidence since so many apps can change your features but i still see a little change to straighten her nose and make it a little smaller compared to the above photo.

her tip looks different in profile too

a little more raised and small

 

her eyes + chin maybe saw little changes too, again she just looks a little more 'idolified'.
(i'm glad to see fellow fans of her on this thread *__*)

Yeah face shape has something different as well, she had a weak mandible from the start I think, but there might be some fat removal?? But since she started at young age, it can weight loss and hell even growing up too, so I couldn't determine what exactly it is T^T

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3 hours ago, sawarin said:

did yeji from itzy get lipfillers? they look off in the recent showcase pictures or is she looking weird because of that terrible eye makeup

Yes, we previously discussed when she released Studio Choom as well. She also seems to do buccal fat removal. 

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14 hours ago, tomorrowseemssofaraway said:

Did the members of Enhypen get plastic surgery? 

 

 

Short answer is a yes. We discussed them before and determined they got it before iland, maybe even more at past as well. Considering they are quite young (very young tbh) I remember us discussing extensively. 

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I honestly couldn't recognise Ong seongwoo for a second 

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27 minutes ago, igotaboyonmychin said:

Here's the behind the scenes of this photoshoot:

I don't know, he doesn't look anything different from Seongwoo that I remember. If anything, he looks older and more tired which makes absolute sense. Maybe not as bony as he was on Produce but this man is just as fine.  

 

his nose its alot more buttonish than i remember, keep in mind i saw him only with w1 so differences i notice are compared to that

his nose tip looks like there is filler oddly enough certainly looks alot thicker than i remember

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Just now, Eirene29 said:

I did recognise him, but something definitely happened there. It's hard to pin point though... His jaw is a little softer maybe? and his face is fuller? UGH it's hard

his nose was looking different to me rather than his face line, its something very small tho, so its hard, i can see something is differnet but change is small enough for me to not properly name it 

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22 minutes ago, Eirene29 said:

Tbh he could already have done a nose job before Produce and now he could have done some fillers in the tip? or maybe that was his original nose...it's a little bit too tall and perfect to be his natural nose, but mmm, it could be!
I noticed he looks less skinny so that's why his face if fuller!

yeah i noticed his weight as well, tho his nose would be unaffected by any weight flactuation, unless its extreme, his bump is still there so i assume if anything is done its to nose tip, whether by surgery or fillers. I do think there is a difference tho definitely doesnt look same to me. Because it is T zone too, it is very noticeable, at least for me. 

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4 hours ago, TataBoo said:

Holy shit he looks like a completely different person here. I know the hair isn't doing him any favors, but it also looks like he's overdoing some procedure/fillers. If someone could analyze what exactly is going on with him that would be helpful. 

few pages ago i talked about him, but i think he played around with his nose again after the pictures i found, it is very thinned out compared to those

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2 hours ago, ihaigah said:

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Seventeen got a lot more work done than The Boyz, so if there is a feeling to you that they all look the same it might be because of just how they look? 

 

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I won't comment rest of the things as I don't think I need to discuss them, but svt didn't do more works than tbz. We just discuss Svt here alot because people keep asking them and for some reason there is a lot of carats on this thread including me, but among big groups hell even among general they are a group that is mostly natural to not much change in features with fillers etc despite being in their 6th year, at this point you usually see really drastic works. I just wanted to add this as an addition. 

Oot

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53 minutes ago, Hexox said:

The length of her philtrum is too long and ruins the overall harmony of her face. That's why you should avoid unnecessary nose jobs at all cost, her newer nose is too tiny for her face ://

Before:

After her second nose job:

The difference is very clear to me. Such a shame ! Apink's surgeons are awful :// her face lost her uniqueness and natural feeling

She wanted sexy look, but if there is one thing I noticed it's Korean surgeons uncaring attitude about philtrum, when in Western surgeries they try to fix nose to philtrum 

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Knetz noticed Naeun too it seems 

https://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2021/05/teens-stories-why-did-son-naeun-change.html?m=1

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5 hours ago, Lolly21 said:

I started following ASTRO a few months ago (thank you Youtube algorithm) and they must be one of the groups that don't look the same at all, which is odd. They look pretty distinct, which is not the norm. But is refreshing and so easy on my eyes!

And on that topic, is there something that Cha Eunwoo did to his teeth or face besides fillers or maintenance? When he debuted his cheeks were so round, full and chubby but he wasn't like that pre-debut (and there is a lot of pre-debut content from ASTRO). For their 2nd comeback with Breathless in 2016 his face looked more chiseled... What happened?

Back in 2016 (around March)

 

 

 

But then here's Eunwoo on the same year, around June for ASTRO's 2nd comeback:

 

He never looked overweight or anything like that to me. Did he get buccal fat removal? Can you lose that much fat in your face just by losing weight in like 3 months? I don't think idols loose THAT much weight with them already being thin. Was it another non-invasive procedure? Is it botox? Am I tripping? LOL. 

But his teeth do look different. Could they be veneers? I really don't know anything about veneers but it looks like a similar procedure. His teeth look a bit longer but still real and we are able to see more of his smile. This did wonders for that "out of the world" look that he's know for. 

This is from 2017. For me, his best look/era so far. 

2018:

 

2019:

2020:

He seemed to get a bit more muscular on this year but I think it's obvious that he gets fillers, which could add to the shape of his face.

2021:

All in all, I think he doesn't look drastically different. 

What do you guys think?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He did something to his jaw line tbh like you said, but alot later I remember us discussing but couldn't find what. I am not talking about his weight btw, his jawline used to jut out a bit, then bam it smoothed out

I think it was this pic we discussed. He probably did something not permanent like Botox and fillers to give a stronger vline definition at that time. I checked his recent pics and he seems to focus only on fillers now. 

About weight, tbh maybe he can lose that much weight? Is old lose weight in very harmful styles mind you, so they can find a fast one

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4 minutes ago, KentasGlittery EyeMakeup said:

How do Korean men get such good lip fillers? Half of the time I don't even notice because it looks so natural. Meanwhile where I live people love getting exaggerated and obvious looking lip fillers to show off the money they invested in their face.

doctor and beauty standards if you have thin lips doctor is not gonna insist on filling them to fullest, people usually themselves want the fullest look

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23 minutes ago, KentasGlittery EyeMakeup said:

Yup it's true. In the Balkans the PS standard is to get the obvious looking surgeries and fillers so people would know you got them, they're like a status and wealth symbol. There are still people who get good surgeries (usually the actually rich people do that, while the ones that want to look rich get the obvious one) but so many people get really obvious fillers and ski slope noses and so on and show them off. Don't even get me started on implants.

https://www.instagram.com/pravo_vip_lice/?hl=hr

I like looking at this account as a warning to myself if I ever want to get fillers or anything like that. All of them are pretty famous Serbian celebrities and they showcase just how much the beauty standard is twisted there. I previously mentioned that things are luckily way less severe among Croatian celebrities and there's maybe a few celebrities who look exaggerated while everyone else looks natural and have successful work done, but young girls are striving to look like Serbian celebrities more and more because that music is very popular here and it's not odd to see copy+paste faces in trendy cafes and wherever fashion streetstyle photographers operate.

it is especially weird to me Balkans have that type of fashion because i have been in countries in Balkan multiple times, almost everyone was drop dead gorgeous in a natural way, especially Serbia if i had balls i was about to hit on passport checker

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6 minutes ago, KentasGlittery EyeMakeup said:

We have naturally beautiful women but at every corner and it's true, but the recent trends have been so weird to me because that fake aesthetic has become such a standard for some. Not everyone, maybe not even the majority, but it's growing and I hate seeing it, especially in young people.

i think it will pass with time, like every ps trend, but current people will regret in future i guess, which is honestly sad for me