Official Plastic Surgery Thread

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Just now, igotaboyonmychin said:

Okay, I see a little bit of foundation in the 1st one and I mentioned that in the 3rd one he had foundation/concealer on, still it's clearly obvious that his upper lip got much bigger and now has this shape that only filled lips have. And I'm still convinced Hoshi's lips are done too, even with edited pictures the difference was very clear 

Even with edited pictures T^T? His whole face shape was changed, that was how much they photoshopped him. I am happy to discuss any procedure and even argue, but your main evidence picture was so wildly edited when that picture was first out I didn't even recognize him o.o anyway I don't want to discuss this again when I already said my opinion lol.  For Minghao, again I already shared photoshoot images where you can see his naturally thick lip. So idk what else to tell you tbh, for MV it is even very clear to me he has no fillers ATM. Mind you what I am saying is not he never had fillers!!!!1!2!1 it's me saying his lips are natural in MV, I think there is a mixture there. 

4 minutes ago, Eirene29 said:

Btw since we're talking Seventeen members, looks like Jun always had double eyelids. I was on the fence with him, bc he's honestly so good-looking but it looks like at least he never did anything to his eyes. 
Maybe at most some small fillers on his nose bridge? But i'm also unsure about that to be very honest.

He is one of my natural list lol even at childhood he has crazy deep double eyelids, next picture are bit smoothed out but you can see his nose bridge 

His eyes 

 

His nose 

If he does nose fillers it's probably very light? Because his bump is very light on its own, and seems pretty easy to ignore tbh, so it's hard for me to determine if he does have one or not, since if he does have one it should be so light and hard to notice ;-;

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1 minute ago, Eirene29 said:

Yeah, he's definitely on my list of Seventeen's most natural members. I only noticed that his nose bump seems to appear and disappear often? But whatever he did/does it's extremely minimal, it's good and it's what PS should be tbh. Enhancing what you got.

It's crazy but he was really born with great features! Some idols look nothing like their childhood pics but he hasn't changed much.

That's exactly what confuses me. He either uses really short term fillers or he doesn't use fillers at all and it's all editing. So it's so hard to pinpoint TAT 

He was always gorgeous tho, even as what 3? I can recognize Jun lol 

Like this is predebut 

And under spoiler there is some baby pics BCS I couldn't resist 

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18 minutes ago, UrmiUndone said:

The last pic is his father I guess? He looks like him

I don't think Jun knows his father properly or even has a picture shared with him. It's from set, he was acting in a historical drama if I recall correctly. 

That's why he and his brother looks so different as well

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5 hours ago, UrmiUndone said:

His mother is single mom? The dude kinda looks like him lmao.

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Divorced when he was like 2-3. Apparently he would accidentally think actors as his father since he often had to act like a son and BCS he was too young to act honestly, I remember I was so angry at his mom when I first read it. From reading, it sounded like he never communicated with his father after divorce. 

OOT 

Hm? Did i say something wrong? I am refencing a very old interview if anyone is curious

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35 minutes ago, Eirene29 said:

Who the heck negged you....wth people! SPEAK if you think she said something that's not true!

Idk why, its not like i said something new, baby carats like urmi wouldnt really know that's why i explained, but otherwise his family info is quite known, with interviews etc as well, not with anything creepy lol

Anyway, maybe some people are annoyed by oot or divorce etc, i will just link the original interview if they think I'm lying

oot (again)

 

9 hours ago, yoohyeons pie said:

Has Purple Kiss gotten any work done?

 

I looked around for them but not many previous pictures are out, are there? Only ones i can find are when they were having kindmof debuted but not really era

Otherwise ones that look sus to me is Yuki, Jieun, Goeun, Goeun and Yuki for nose, Jieun for eyes. Goeun for nose tip reduction, Yuki for nosejob, Jieun for double eyelids (they are very deep)

But its assumption based on current pics nothing from past, so it might be wrong as well

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4 minutes ago, good_morning said:

As someone who watched pd48 i can tell that Goeun (one of my picks btw) looks quite different 

I didnt knew she was ar pd48!! 

alright checking again i add lateral canthoplasty to tip reduction, i also find her jaw really sus, but might be botox etc instead of shave

Alsot this pic

Really makes her look like namjoo

 

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19 minutes ago, Lolly21 said:

Not kpop related but I watched this video of Nikola Peltz that came out recently and her face looks so stiff! She's an actress and engaged to Brooklyn Beckham.

People in the comments were mentioning it as well, like a lot of comments and her eyebrows don't move at all. Why being that stiff at 26?

 

I just hope she gains more elasticity as time goes by...

OOT but that lip mask is amazing would suggest 

Girlie can't even move her lips tho I hope she cuts down a little

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6 hours ago, meeeplet said:

I was watching a webdrama and was shocked to see obviously "altered," for lack of a better word, the main three actresses looked:

I couldn't find any predebuts, but I see noticeable signs of certain procedures on their faces.

Two of them look like they may have had jaw shaves to me:

The second girl also seems to have had a nose job (there's even visible scarring):

The first girl's eyes are majorly suspicious to me too:

Her nose seems suspicious as well and I think I see alarplasty scars.

She's very pretty, of course, but her over all aesthetic is just so jarringly doll like to me:

The third girl has strong bone structure which is honestly very refreshing imo:

However, her nose and maybe eyes and lips as well seem suspicious to me.

It's likely there's other stuff I'm not catching because I don't have the predebuts to reference.

All three of them are beautiful, but I find their possible procedures really distracting. It's just so obvious to me that they've all had work done and I can't help wondering: do Koreans not notice or do they just not care?

From what I see don't notice. They seriously think some absurd features as natural. It is always surprising to me, considering its a very popular country for PS, they more often than not, have no idea and think every change as weight or hair cut (or maybe it's denial who knows) 

Especially for actresses and actors, they are so stubborn about them being naturally gorgeous. 

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3 minutes ago, UrmiUndone said:

Name of the drama?

Google said it's okay to be sensitive 

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1 minute ago, UrmiUndone said:

For some reason I always thought every aspect of celebrities was fake. Maybe I am being nihilistic. But I mostly assume all celebrities regardless of gender and nationality having had some sort of cosmetic procedure.

Tbh, depends, some never touch their face because their face is what gives them personality, this is especially applicable for western celebs, where similar features would make you blend in and you would want uniqueness instead, which means you accept your imperfections. But after certain age celebs tend to get ps, due to age concerns tbh, which in my humble opinion, better to not touch at all 

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1 hour ago, Eremit said:

good point on Western celebs preferring uniqueness - kinda plays into the whole individuality vs fitting in thing that's been discussed a lot. Like Anne Hathaway has a big mouth, and Jennifer Lawrence has small-ish eyes and Keira Knightley has a strong jaw - I feel like in Korea they would have made them all get surgery, although idk if you can "fix" a large mouth. But JLaw would have done her eyes and Keira gotten a jaw shave most likely.

Exactly, and honestly they are all considered pretty, if they were raised in Korean standards, it's really likely they would try to kill that uniqueness, because that's what Korea beauty standards are, very specific features, rest are considered ugly or undesirable. You can see comments like "she is so pretty but..." in almost every non standard Korean celeb article. Which is where it really differs from Western culture of standing out. 

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12 minutes ago, SamuhaMe said:

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I was just wondering if blackpink members did any ps because everytime I look at them, I feel so bad looking at my reflection in the mirror 

 

Short answer, they did. You can also search on thread using "Thread Name" Jennie etc in search bar (just copy paste this thread's name) 

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14 minutes ago, sooa_t said:

wow he used to look more 'natural', now what is this? that's a tragedy, is this photo new? we need to see more photos to check if his face looks botched

210328 I found the date 

Then it's very new, I found more pictures from that date as well 

 

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2 hours ago, meeeplet said:

Oh I was saying I'm not sure about her jaw, but if she did it, it was before any of the like two predebut pics I could find. There's really no way to know for sure and she has the kind of jaw that could go either way (be naturally occurring or the result of a jaw shave). I think a jaw shave is possible for her just because she does have a steep jaw that's narrow and pointed from the front with a high mandible angle (it's definitely there tho). This is often the outcome of a jaw shave but definitely doesn't have to be, and in Yeoreum's case it may not be, though without proper predebuts it's impossible to really say.

She just has a weak mandible for me, I don't think she had jaw shave. You can see in some of the pics you shared her mandible is there, it's just small and weak, from the very start I believe. 

But her jaw, I guess I can say corners, juts out more predebut. While I don't think she did jaw shave, she either touched her jaw with something less strong (like masseter Botox) or made a change at her cheekbones. 

 

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3 minutes ago, Bbaeby78 said:

He did Even now when it kinda settled down it’s still obvious. But since he has his nose done I feel like he is more confident and glow so, good for him.

It looks great on hitori janai tbh, i was worried but it settled well even if it took its time, tho i still think it was very unnecessary

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I dont see any scars on v and jin, can you circle for me @EmptyWaterBottle? I also cant really see what i am seeing is scar or not with jimin, so if you are not busy, i i would love to see where is scar exactly? 

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5 minutes ago, loveablejoy said:

He does have a scar. I know because I spent everyday analysis his gorgeous face 

I didn't realize until this photo tho, zoom up on his nostrils.

Thanks!! I can see in this one, i am just bad spotting scars for this procedure T^T

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14 hours ago, EmptyWaterBottle said:

I don't know how to circle or crop, but if you look by the nostrils, it's the shiny line by each nostril

As for Taehyung, you can see by the nostrils where there is a sort of 'dip', his scars are pretty faint, to the point where now I'm unsure whether he has or not

I'm trying to explain it as best as I can, but it's really difficult since I don't know how to do much on this website

 

Oh and btw, I have looked at more photos of Jimin and tbh I don't think he's had an alarplasty, sorry guys, I jumped to that conclusion way too quick without actually thinking about it. I do think he has touched his nose, but not an alarplasty

I still can't see for Jin rip, maybe it's too faded, that shiny part looks like natural oil of nose to me (yes that is a thing) rather than any ps, even in other pics multiple people shared rip (thank you btw!! You all are very helpful )

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7 hours ago, lilymul said:

Jimin definitely had one on the right side in the picture. Idk about everyone else need to see clearer pictures. But after spending a good 10 minutes staring at their noses, i do notice they all have same nostrils LOL

So only at one side? Wouldn't it be imbalanced, why exactly? Did he pick his nose and widened his nostrils accidentally? (Yes this is a thing) I can't think of any other reason o.o

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30 minutes ago, Flybrds said:

 

I think Jin has definitely had epicantoplasty. His eyes weren't that big in the past.

lateral canthoplasty is more likely tho i need to search up some no make up pics 

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1 hour ago, Eirene29 said:

Yup exactly, he just got rid of the bump and got fillers around the same time Joshua did, I think. Also pretty unnecessary. I mean, I get it, if the bump bothered him, genuinely bothered him, it's cool but I hope nobody 'suggested' to him that he should have a taller nose bridge or whatever. 

I think Wonwoo's nose is natural bc he does have a bump too. At most he might get filler to smooth it out but I'm not sure. I never really payed much attention to his pre debut pics! Curiously, everyone in here seemed to be dead sure that he got his nostrils tucked in and botox to keep his nostrils from flaring??? But I never believed any of that tbh. I just don't see a substantial change in his nostrils that would suggest he got surgery.  

wonwoo is fully natural, they edit his nose alot tho, he is one of those classically handsome dudes and he didnt touch his face tbh, he is also in my natural list

otherwise i just got my gose magazine and they edited features even there, which is a bit sad, some things like nose bumps etc are smoothed out and i was very surprised when i first saw it 

 

50 minutes ago, Eirene29 said:

I've looked through some pics from Mansae to Home Run era and I have to say it's really hard to tell whether he got that thread nose job procedure or just fillers...Although the thread nose job does seem a strong possibility. 
Do you think Seungkwan might have done a thread nose job too or does he just uses fillers sporadically? 

Btw since we're talking Seventeen, looks like Minghao got fillers again for the filming of the music video of Side by side. So I don't think he ever did that nose job everyone was talking about like a year ago. Unless he did the thread thing Dino allegedly did. 

his nose was not suitable for threading, rather button nose does it, but for minghao we theorised non surgical fillers as well as nose job, as time passes i lean towards non surgical option? however his nostrils look a bit shiny, tho i cant recognise alarplasty scars etc, so idk maybe its natural oil (but threading is maybe possible too?? i am not doctor afterall)

For seungkwan i doubt its fillers, his whole aim was making his face look less puffy it would be exact opposite not to mention i didnt saw anything that signs a filler tbh 

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3 minutes ago, Eirene29 said:

Oh nooooo, they edited Wonwoo on the GOSE magazine too...damn. Yeah I also believe he's one of the natural or close to natural members btw

Yeah I also do believe Minghao just went really hard on fillers that time and right now it looks like he got fillers again. I haven't really looked at his nostrils, I haven't noticed any size differenze though. Unfortunately I'm not good at finding scars.

Oh yeah I guess Seungkwan's nose wasn't suitable for threading...how do you determine that though? 

For Seungkwan, you mean fillers in his jaw or something? Bc during Fear he looked sooo skinny and I'm not sure, he could have done botox or something. Or it was simply extreme diet...I hope he didn't get adivce from Yesung

not only wonwoo, cheol too, its very weird since in video you can see their bump easily, but in magazine its like they have perfect skii slope nose

for threading usually focus is minimal change, and you need a nose type that is easy to shape, seungkwan's is not really? at least thats how i read as, maybe i am completely wrong as its a procedure that is not talked much

for seungkwan i think its fat removal, rather than fillers, over the years, his cheeks completely went away, for fear i think he did extreme diet considering his ankle was bad, i think he gained weight since he couldnt move and you know how badly those affect faces, sometimes hoshi yooyoos hardcore too, fortunately he doesnt now that he started working out 

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3 hours ago, sakira said:

What's everyones take on TXT's Yeonjun?

that dude needs to leave his lips alone

otherwise seems like he did fat reducing at his eyelids, and i suspect his nose as well honestly something about its shape is really off not to mention you can see in predebut his nose was not that sharp

I think there might be lateral canthoplasty as well? but keep in mind it seems like bh had him do surgery really early, maybe years before his debut but i dont know his training time 

he also should leave fillers as a whole alone. because dude you are young af what are you doing to your skin

from the way his nose moves i suspect some type of implant, but like i said, his surgeries seem like they were done a WHILe ago so even predebut pics are not too trustworthy

2 minutes ago, plastichearts said:

hi i have a question because i only started noticing this recently, but would you guys consider forehead botox a common procedure within kpop idols?

i see implants or fillers more, why,did you notice it at someone? it is highly possible tho and wouldnt surprise me one bit if they do botox 

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39 minutes ago, plastichearts said:

i noticed the opposite actually lol, i saw a picture of an idol and noticed he had forehead lines and i was wondering if all idols had them and i just never noticed them. because i actually thought most idols tended to "freeze" that area. 

sorry if this is a dumb question

tbh i think idols kind of ugh left the area after a while? koreans in general prioritise skin care like crazy, honestly most of them probably have any lines there pretty late unless they have some serious stress

27 minutes ago, Eirene29 said:

Yeah...they probably edit them all the time though, like for album's pictures, magazines pics even selfies. It's a sad sad world...I hope they don't think they need to have surgery to look like their edited versions. 

Honestly I've never heard about threading until I read it in this thread, so yeah thanks for the info!

Oh you think Seungkwan did actual fat removal for his cheeks? I thought he just dieted and worked out hella hard. Anyway yeah him and Hoshi are the two members that struggled with weight, diet etc. I'm glad Seungcheol never went through that. He's naturally a stocky guy and he looks amazing just as he is. 

 

honestly i think seungkwan either did fat removal or facial contouring, issue is facial contouring's full heal time is quite long, a year? technically you are good to go after a month, but you are still puffy afterwards, with normal people it wouldnt be noticed but with someone like seungkwan who is infront of cameras it would be noticed i assume. Thats why i am at my plan b now, fat removal. But honestly his case might be extreme diet as well, he is pretty health crazy, and it wouldnt surprise me if he did something tbh, Cheol is lucky his fat just turns into muscle so when he gains weight he gets bugg, mingyu is like that too, hoshi and seungkwan show directly at face, hoshi from the sound of it tbh diets pretty much all the time he can at the moment because he determined he was unhealthy before from the sound of it, which i hope he was just exaggerating or something tbh 

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8 minutes ago, hshlhb said:

hello! i've seen that nu'est don't get mentioned here too much so i wanted to ask if you think baekho has done anything to his face. I think he looks really natural and different to most male idols and that makes him stand out a lot 

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pre debut:

debut:

special mention to his nose lol i really like it

I think his change was thanks to better styling and weight loss but maybe you're able see things that I don't...

Seems like he widened his forehead (augmentation) , I didn't realize before, it was a lot smaller before, you can see it in the picture where he is blonde.