Official Plastic Surgery Thread

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Here's a quick history of Yoongi's ever-changing jaw/chin, as told by pictures of the left side of his face.

 

First, we have some predebut bby yoongis. This was the period before I suspect he ever touched his face. 

 

 

In both images, the chin is more flat- almost pushed inward due to his overbite (if you don't believe me about the overbite, just look at images of his gummy smile and you can see his see are pushed inward). 

 

 

Next, we move onto INU/Dope Era Yoongi, AKA the time which Yoongi was at his tiniest. 

 

Due to the dramatic weight loss, his facial bones are very prominent. Here, we see an unsmooth jawbone, which makes me believe it is natural @ this point, in other words, he didn't have a jaw shave. However, his chin seems to be protruding more here than predebut. I think he had a chin implant placed right before he debuted to give of illusion of a narrow face without getting a big surgery.  

 

 

Fast forward to BS&T era, and if you didn't believe me before about his chin implant, YOU SEE IT HERE FOLKS. 

Compared to the previous photo, Yoongi looked healthier during BS&T than INU era, so his cheeks are more filled out and his jaw bone looks straighter, but if you look closely, his jaw still has the dip/curve in the middle of it. 

 

 

 

Now we are here, to Fake Love era. Compared to all the other photos, Yoongi's jaw bone is not only smooth, but his jawline is now curved. He might also of had another chin implant to compliment his new narrow jaw, not for sure tho, but it looks for curved and soft.

 

late response but this is a GREAT post as far as picture choices and pointing out why you suspect what you do.

everyone take notes! lol

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really ? tiffany looks like she age for 10 years since leaving SM  , she  no longer look cute like she was before.

 

taeyeon looks fine imo

 

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She looks 46

 

 

Yuri failed to maintain her physical shape in 2014, she got overweight and after that it's not possible to revert her shape like it was before which of course affect her overall look badly

yuri gained weight, but she has never been overweight. never. not since she debuted at least.

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Yoona's recent airport pics showcased just how delicate her features and especially her jaw are

 

 

 

I don't want anyone to take this the wrong way, but I kind of love how cute and average she looks in the last picture lol

 

it's also the picture where her jaw looks best

Edited July 18, 2018 by seokii

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Is that a chin implant or just her bone structure? I've never noticed it before but the crease kinda threw me off for a moment

the crease on her chin?

quite sure it's natural. I see it very often on skinny people- models in particular.

 

her lips look the same predebut vs now in all the photos where they're closed, and since we don't have a predebut of her pouting with her mouth open, the comparison image is of no use, but from what I've seen of her, they seem natural

 

 

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can someone help me pinpoint, what's different about Daisy predebut/early debut vs now? I mean, she looks great but not the same to me

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I was looking at old pics and her and Jane look the most different to me

 

 

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I'm not saying Daisy didn't have any procedures (because I dont really know) but styling is huge for her. how her hair and makeup is done makes a woooorld of difference.

Jane does look different to me too and I can't place why. I'm leaning towards eyes? but I really don't know.

she gained some weight (she was very skinny at debut) and lost her bangs. and then lost some weight again.

so maybe that's all? or maybe those other changes are masking a procedure.

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chungha's chin is super distracting in love u, if it's a filler, i hope it settles down quickly bc right now it looks bad

it settled! she looks good in her lives.

 

 

 

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Idk what happened but Dawon from WJSN looks so different, and not in a great way.

This is what she looked like in 2016:

honestly I think a lot of it is the styling.

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I don't think there's anything weird about that predebut pic of Chuu honestly. between her hair color change, the 1kg of makeup the loona stylists like to use, and the camera difference between a phone cam and a TV camera, I think the minor difference are not likely to be plastic surgery.

 

on a second thought, I'm not sure. her jaw/chin is kinda suspicious. it looks a whole lot longer now.

maybe fillers? I don't think she had a jaw shave but I wouldn't be surprised if she has fillers or maybe maaaaaaybe a chin implant

 

what do you guys think of nayoung from pristin(past ioi)? did she just loose alot of face weight or did she do something with her jaw?

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nope. that first picture is just edited. if you actually watch her performance, her head is very round. like, I was honestly surprised because it was so round lol (I'm sorry)

 

 

 

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Edited September 25, 2018 by seokii

[seokii]

What I've noticed with Daisy is that she always edits her selfies a lot, like a whole lot, so the first photo is not a good comparison image. 

 

Some selfies as examples: 

 

 

 

 

However, I do think she had work done, when I saw her predebuts - Finding Momoland era photos, I was surprised at how different she seemed. 

 

 

 

 

 

vs nowadays

 

 

 

here's her 2018 ISAC performance

 

 

 

skip to about 17-19 seconds in. personally I think she strongly resembles her predebut appearance.

if she did get anything done, it must have been minor as hell.

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sorry for a triple post! but if anyone has pictures/videos of obvious carboxy shot bruises, please send/link them!

 

I'm trying to put together a little collection so it'll be easier to educate ppl on carboxy shots. a shocking amount of people don't believe idols actually do them lol

 

here's the best example I have:

these are a little faded so they're not as small and round like they usually look, but look how fucking many there are! :(

 

for those that don't know, carboxy leaves little round bruises from the injection site. you see them a lot on female idols' legs, although theoretically they can be done on arms and stomachs as well (much more rare to see though)

Edited September 25, 2018 by seokii

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about her nose not to defend her because a nose job is not a big deal for me but I really think she only gets nose fillers sometimes the shape of her nose it's not that much different ^ the pic you posted is photoshopped as hell and the rest of her face is natural btw.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I also disagree about her bleaching her skin she is tanned it's just that many pics are photoshopped and also keep in mind the makeup

 

 

can people stop negging? just because I don't think she got a nose job and just fillers I really want to know your opinion I think people easily over exaggerate how different she looks 

 

oh my jesus when will blinks stop using pics of her smiling to "prove" she didn't get a nose jobs.

 

if any of you ACTUALLY paid attention to Lisa's face, you'd realize her nose looks different when she has a resting/neutral face and when she's smiling (which PULLS HER NOSE WIDE)

 

find a recent picture of her with a neutral expression and then come back and tell me she didn't get a nose job.

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Oh worm? What do you mean by this because the fandom consensus is that she only got double eyelid surgery? Also like Jinsoul we have like no good predebut pics of her, so what is is that you think she's done I'd like to hear it.

 

I don't know about her surgery, but I saw somewhere recently a pic of her with less makeup than usual and holy shit she looks different.

like. the real praise needs to go to her makeup artist...

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Rosé's face shape...

 

? what about it

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i don't understand  why some idols get so much chin fillers to the point where their chin become disproportionately large compared to the rest of their face. aren't large chins (especially on women) perceived as unattractive? like i thought small chins are more considered ideal? maybe they were going for a more dainty pointy chin but tzuyu is always praised for her small face + chin and her chin is not pointy

I think you underestimate the Korean V-line obsession lol

for one thing, it lengthens the face. vertically. which makes it less... horizonal/wide looking. which is for some reason considered much more undesirable.

 

also, fillers kind of deflate over time. or they "settle". I kinda think they overdo fillers for this reason- to maximize the effect for their money.

this leaves idols with this horrible bloated phase before the fillers settle, but it does mean that the period of time where they look nice is longer.

that's just my theory though.

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Her V-line reminds me of Wendy's one but that might just be my opinion

...I don't think it looks anything like Wendy's jaw lol. maybe before she got that infamous jaw shave?

but it's true natural dramatic V-lines are pretty rare.

I don't know for sure but I thought the general consensus was that Rosé only had double eyelid surgery.

 

edit: for one thing, you can see that the edge/corner of her jaw is below her ear. THAT is natural. usually when a jaw shave is performed they remove that little corner bit.

if you look at Wendy's jaw, it's like... floating away from her ear. it's not even connected anymore. that corner bit is entirely gone.

so either she (rose) had something ridiculously minor done or her v-line is natural.

Edited September 27, 2018 by seokii

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imo Chungha looks better in Wow Thing than Love U.

 

I don't really know what happens in the Love U MV because I've never noticed anything but her chin. it's horrible! she's so pretty but her chin looked like it'll explode. at least in Wow Thing it looks a tiny bit better.

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wow predebut Minnie. she's so gorgeous.

 

the only difference I see is her eyes. and... chin?

Shuhua doesnt really look that different to me either.

Edited October 5, 2018 by seokii

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also, about Yves:

 

 

her forehead looks pretty flat to me.

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They both look the same to me, just... A LOT whiter. These photos aside, even in unedited fan pics of them or in fancams, their skin is just so paper white compared to what they were before. And not only on their face, but their neck, arms, legs, hands, etc. I doubt they put makeup on their whole bodies... so like... how do they even get that white? It seems like a lot of idols just magically turn 3 shades lighter after debuting. Is there some kind of full body skin whitening procedure or something?

I'm sure they put makeup on their bodies. korea really loves their whitening bb creams, i bet all they need is a bulk order of matte ones to get the girls through a round of promotions.

 

it's pretty common knowledge they wake them up at the ass crack of dawn to do their makeup and hair and shit, so I don't think its unlikely that they have them slather on some leg and arm makeup.

 

not to be cynical but I'm also sure they penalize or punish them for tanning at all, the same way you hear idols being punished for eating something that's not allowed on their strict diets

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Does anyone else remember this girl from SMTM? I don't know her but anyway my friend pointed this out

 

This was her original face I think

 

 

She looks like this now

https://instagram.com/p/BozMtthAT9S/

wow those smile corners...

 

btw. does anyone know of an idol that for sure got that smile corner surgery? It seems VERY pronounced on a lot of instagram stars.

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I know this is completely K-pop unrelated but bear with me! I've been thinking about this a lot lol.

Do you guys think that Olivia Munn had jaw surgery? Her face shape changed a lot. I don't think I have ever seen any Western celeb having this sort of procedure so I am a bit skeptical. What I find interesting as well is that in the West people actually like square jaws (at least in celebs) like Angelina Jolie's or Olivia Wilde's, so it's surprising to see a Western actress changing her jaw (if she actually did it) from a "chiseled" square one to a more rounded oval one. Could it be botox? Or perhaps she has cheekbone fillers that make her jaw in comparison look smaller? But the shape changed too. I am confusion...

Before

After

looks like botox to me. botox can do that, plus it's way more common in the US, plus the lower half of her face just has that look to it. if that makes sense?

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But also is weird that 2 days before she was looking like this

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dpeyt63VAAE6ryI?format=jpg

A nose filler? The angle? I don’t know

now THIS looks like angle/lens thing to me. was this cropped from a group photo? some lenses really warp people on the sides.

I don't know if momo has been touching her face but I'm sure that's not why she looks strange here lol

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i remember i watched one of her videos and thought her nose is very distracting, i couldn't stop looking at it.

 

definitely one of the worst nosejobs i've seen, she's fighting for number 1 with sinb, serri, and namjoo

sinb's nose looks like a really bad nosejob but I've seen predebut pictures of her as a child and she had that same fuckin nose

it's confused me so much I try not to think about it lol...

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I'm thoroughly disgusted that your comment got more upvotes than mine.

*slides you my upvote* u deserve this

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another prime candidate for the premature eyelid *staring* lift. it's not a subtle procedure, like it makes you look like a goat so idk why fans decide to go so hard on denying it. it's not possible to go from a subtle o eye shape to an O eye shape without your forehead wrinkling   

 

do you know of any other idols with this procedure? this is the first time im hearing about it in the context of korean* idols.

 

*or Japanese. Sana. you know what I mean.

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Yeah that chin  

 

But didn't she say she's natural and had an x-ray?

that was early in her career before she had plastic surgery. it was probably true at the time but it certainly isn't now lol