Official Plastic Surgery Thread

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22 minutes ago, meeeplet said:

She looks like she may have had some eye corner work as well as fillers to me, but I agree that she looks natural besides that. It’s funny - I’ve always thought she was very beautiful and almost high fashion looking with her strong jaw, high cheekbones, piercing eyes, and her long legs and broader shoulders. In the west, I actually think her stronger,  fierce, more “masculine” kind of beauty is seen as very desirable. I guess the Korean standard favors a more delicate “feminine” look though which is maybe part of why she isn’t as appreciated there as she should be.

I agree with everything but Jeongyeon is more famous in Korea than most Twice members and she has a bigger fandom there than internationally. Korean public seems to like her visuals.

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8 hours ago, pjihoon said:

This is an interesting observation. Who do you think are the oddballs in f(x), rv, and aespa beside Amber?

I don't know much about f(x) so I can only give my opinion on Rv and Aespa. For RV I think Wendy is the oddball and for Aespa I think it could be Ningning. 

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From Brave Girls, Yuna looked the most natural to me. Eunji's plastic surgery was obvious and Yujeong's chin stuck out as well as Minyoung's nose.

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1 hour ago, seola said:

this is really unfortunate. was never a fan of astro but i knew their names and i remember he had a really striking and masculine face (similar to like 2009 jonghyun). and it's almost completely redone. where his jaw mandible used to be now there is just excess skin that ages him, this seems so common with jaw shaves. the hair is reminding me of when the8 had a "glowup" which was attributed to his mullet lol. only this is not as subtle

Considering this is what Rocky used to look like, I'd say while this was an unnecessary surgery, he seems to want to go for a sharper bad boy look.

He was really handsome before and his old look reminded me of the Thai star Third Kamikaze:

Edited April 11, 2021 by TataBoo

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Just now, pjihoon said:

i think rocky is looking more feminine tbh with the shaved jaw, longer hair, that hairclip, and thinner nose

Yeah true, but I meant he probably wanted an eboy/bad boy look. I felt this way about Jungkook when he started changing his style and getting more stuff done as well, like he wants to have a bad boy image but ended up looking more feminine and softer to me.

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5 hours ago, tastyfruity said:

I have to ask, is there any chance that karina can look like this again? It's all about the make-up or we already lost her? This was Karina as trainee, she already got PS, right? Not sure about jaw.

Tbh I'm seeing more difference in her eyes than jaw. I think she did something to them because here she looks cute and now her vibe is totally different.

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1 minute ago, tastyfruity said:

What do you mean with her vibe is different? Karina usually changes her vibe depending on her hairstyle and make-up

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She is quite gorgeous for real, anyways I meant that her eyes look a bit different now than from before debut. I don't know why though.

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41 minutes ago, itzyclub said:

let’s talk about itzy (my ults)!! it’s become more obvious to me that itzy yuna’s nose looks different lately. she used to have such a distinct and pretty nose, large and really angular nostrils but super cute looking imo. but recently her nose suddenly looks much thinner and less bulbous.

before:

now:

 

the width of the nostrils have definitely been reduced and they also seemed to have shaved the overhanging tip. must have happened between wannabe and not shy era.

i know that most itzy members have had subtle predebut procedures like yeji’s nose job to make her tip smaller and bridge longer/straighter as well as v line jaw surgery. lia’s had fillers and possible nose job as well etc. but this just makes me sad coz even tho the procedure was done well and not botched, yuna’s nose was already super cute before and one of her defining features for me, and i don’t think this nose suits her too well because she has large features in general.

all the members recently got lip fillers as well which just ..... i really hate lip fillers on anyone ;—; i wish the kpop industry would stop the ps addiction and leave idols’ faces alone when they’re all already so stunning!

I really wish she didn't get the nose job because her face during Icy era was peak charming and pretty.

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Gotta say a few idols have gotten near to perfect plastic surgeries. Examples:

Taehyung, Jaehyun, Soobin, Jennie, Yeji, Ryujin, Tzuyu, etc.

I would have thought they were completely natural if I didn't see this thread. Maybe it's because they didn't overdo it.

Edited April 23, 2021 by TataBoo

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18 hours ago, itzyclub said:

SO TRUE!! i’m honestly gutted about what’s happening to rowoon’s face. i think beforehand he only had his nose done predebut, but recently idek what’s going on... on kingdom, he looked familiar but slightly different, like just something kinda uncanny abt his face that tells me it’s not the same face as before but i couldn’t pinpoint on what it is. 

but yes, a lot of the times, it’s the really good looking idols who fall into the ps spiral. rowoon, hyunjin, lisa, stayc yoon, joshua, karina...

Joshua? What has he done? I thought he was natural tbh. 

Edited April 23, 2021 by TataBoo

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I'm pretty sure I got clowned for saying those idols looked natural. Well excuse me for expressing my honest thoughts lmao.

Edited April 23, 2021 by TataBoo

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Am I the only one who thinks buccal fat removal is dumb and shouldn't be a common procedure among idols? I don't know if they're aware, but their cheek fat is what's going to keep them looking youthful later when they start aging. Seeing people state that they think Yeji(for example) had a buccal fat removal is really sad considering she's so young.

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8 hours ago, sakira said:

What's everyones take on TXT's Yeonjun?

Yeonjun  was peak handsome during Run Away era. I think he shouldn't have touched his face after that. It was obvious he got plastic surgery predebut anyways. I think he got his nose done and then his lips to give a plumper look. He alway had fox eyes even looking at his predebut pictures, so I'm one the fence for eye/eyelid surgery. I also suspect he had buccal fat removal. Not the best example, but you can sort of see in these pictures how different his cheeks look.

Edited April 24, 2021 by TataBoo

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46 minutes ago, kaleidostar said:

 

I should have made my self more clearer, most of them still look natural like Soobin, Kai, Beomgyu, Jay and Sunghoon even though they had work on them.

But I agree Taehyun and Heesung's ps are so obvious

 

I think the most 'natural' member from Enhypen is Jungwon. For TXT it's Soobin and/or Hueningkai.

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20 minutes ago, Jikrytae said:

Read between the lines. A backhanded compliment isn't a compliment at all, but because she and a few others come here pretending to be "plastic surgery positive," they expect everyone to take that declaration at face value & just ignore the obvious contrary motives behind their posts, to say nothing of how wildly wrong their speculation usually is. I may be biased, but at least I'm not lying about it. Too often this thread is used as a bashing thread, just with a clever work-around so they can pretend that's not what they're doing. I know better. Not that it's difficult to figure out when you're mentioning the same person every other page. You don't have to believe me, the post history speaks for itself.

I actually agree because the way people talk about the Aespa girls(for example) is sometimes disturbing and down right bullying.  I know their plastic surgery is obvious, but it wouldn't hurt to address them with more respect given they are people/not robots and also the fact they are pretty young.

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2 minutes ago, Jikrytae said:

It's funny, I myself have mentioned them in the past and been accused of bashing them just for pointing out how obvious their PS is, but unlike so many here, I recognize that they're still pretty women who just have some very obvious & unnecessary PS & haven't said anything since. Because why would you? We really don't need a hundredth discussion on Karina's jaw shave. 

Yeah I know most people aren't trying to be rude in this thread. I really enjoy the discussions, but it seems like there is still negative judgements towards idols who may have gotten one too many procedures done. I don't know if this word is right, but I find it slightly dehumanizing.

Edited April 24, 2021 by TataBoo

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16 hours ago, neila said:

Something I've learnt over the years is that people always stress over one thing about themselves, when in reality they have so many good things going for them. Having "cheeks" is not necessarily a bad thing, Jennie is famous even though she has chubby cheeks, there are idols who loved by some people with "unwanted features" like chubby cheeks, round face, square jaw. We can't choose what genetic attributes we are born with.

If you want the easy way out, yes you can have buccal fat removal / jaw surgery / masseter reduction botox to make your face look "slimmer". But the main reason why people get so stressed out about their "ugly features" is really they are not happy with who they are they want to be like <insert-famous-beautiful-person-here> because their life is so perfect they must be so happy and carefree, and they have so many people who love and swoon over them. Sometimes stressing over an "ugly feature" is a symptom of the problem, and not the problem itself.

Like I said... that's my guess... I don't know what other people think or feel.

Even though Jennie enhanced her features, I still think the admiration for her visuals especially during debut made me feel better about kpop. My facial structure and skin tone is similar to hers during debut(minus the cat eyes). I think it's amazing that there are idols who kept their unique looks even if they don't fit the Korean beauty standards. 

Edited April 28, 2021 by TataBoo

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Yeji seems to have gone through a drastic weight loss this comeback, so I'm not sure if she did buccal fat removal.

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I'm watching mafia and some of the changes in Itzy are really standing out to me idk why. Yeji's chin, Yuna's nose, and Chaeryeong's nose to be specific. Yuna especially, the nose job was so unecesssary. 

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8 minutes ago, Flywithsica said:

Yeonjun nose has always looked like that? 

 

Holy shit he looks like a completely different person here. I know the hair isn't doing him any favors, but it also looks like he's overdoing some procedure/fillers. If someone could analyze what exactly is going on with him that would be helpful. 

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58 minutes ago, Rei sakuma said:

Damn Bighit left no one untouched. I have a feeling their gonna do something to Jungwon's nose next. Why do they hate normal looking noses? have they not learn their lesson with Taehyun's and Heeseung's noses?

I'm so glad they left their eyes untouched at least...I think Wonie fits the Korean standards almost entirely so I don't think so.

Edited May 6, 2021 by TataBoo

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I'm not surprised that the amount of plastic surgery in newer groups increased. There is a lot of pressure and competition for them I feel a little bad. 

Edited May 7, 2021 by TataBoo

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On 5/11/2021 at 10:44 AM, meeeplet said:

I honestly feel the same way. I think BH is becoming like the new SM when it comes to PS (tho SM is still going strong, ofc). It's like they just slapped the same nose on every member without considering their facial structure or trying to preserve their uniqueness whatsoever. (Not to mention how young they are. They haven't even fully grow into their faces yet). Pretty much every Enhypen nose job was unnecessary in my opinion and only succeeds in making the members look more generic. The only one I'm a fan of is Jay's because I think it's harmonious with his other features. Heeseung's is gratingly obvious and Sunghoon's and Sunoo's look sort of out of place on their faces. Jake's was just plain pointless. He had a very nice (and honestly close to ideal) nose to begin with. Sunghoon's and Sunoo's original noses weren't cookie cutter but I think they fit their faces much better than the ones they have now. The only point I'll give BH is that they don't have SM's obsession with v-lines (thank god).

I agree with everything except I think Jay's nose doesn't suit his features at all while Sunghoon and Sunoo's do.

Edited May 13, 2021 by TataBoo

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Lol everyone is worrying about Sunoo when I think his nose job came out great tbh.

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On 1/11/2021 at 11:56 PM, UrmiUndone said:

Height is related to masculinity and it is worse for asian men since they are universally ridiculed for being short so they feel extra insecure+East Asian beauty ideals are pretty brutal.

Also I think The heights of male idol given depend on their image as well- like Doyoung is probably taller than Jaehyun but Jaehyun has official taller height because of his projected image As visual and future idol actor.

Haechan is also supposed to be very short(I have heard he was 1.64 m at one point) but has been given an average height like 5'9" because the company wants him to be a more promoted member and short height might be a detriment for popularity (I don't mind though)

People here are saying Lucas has fake height too but I don't think he lied that much if he did because his height is a huge part of his image as model/actor.

Ps: who is universally considered the least physically attractive member in 127?

I have heard it is usually Johnny<Yuta<Taeil<Haechan(< indicates more handsome) in that order but I would like more opinions on this.

Going back to this post because this is definitely true. While companies can't exaggerate too much about an idol's height, they definitely do give heights based on image. Unfortunately, fans don't use proper judgment as they find it more appealing to follow the heights that the company gives depending on the image the members have. For example in Enhypen, most fans' perception of Sunoo is that he's tiny compared to the members, however I've seen several pictures of him and Jay standing side by side with similar shoes and they are literally the same height. Jay is rumored to be around 6'0 ft, but I really doubt that because he looks more like Sunoo's height. The reason why Jay was said to be 6'0 ft is because he has the boyfriend image while Sunoo has the cute image.

Edited September 3, 2021 by TataBoo