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I will just gladly let everyone know that fan site admins often edit their pictures. And with often I mean 99% of the time. They whiten the skin, make a smaller nose and a smaller jaw/v-line. I think nowadays only selfies might be trustworthy, since everything else is edited. Video evidence should exist. If you ever see a fansite with pictures without idols looking pale like they're dead, it is trustworthy! As for that Jeonghan pic, he looks pale af, so he has obviously already been edited, so ''why not work on his nose too?'' - fansite noona.

 

Never use photoshoots, official pictures and fansite pictures as evidence. All of them are undoubtedly edited, except there are some fansite that do not edit; but it is hard to find those.

 

I honestly dont want to keep discussing this,everyone can have their own opinions 

But his nose in the fansite pics i posted look the same as in this screenshots of a show champ video or was the video also retouched to make his nose sharper and more straight??

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I honestly dont want to keep discussing this,everyone can have their own opinions 

But his nose in the fansite pics i posted look the same as in this screenshots of a show champ video or was the video also retouched to make his nose sharper and more straight??

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I will never understand how dense fans can be when it comes to this kind of stuff. Like, if they stan him like I do then they spend a chunk of their time sifting through their tags on tumblr, twitter, sites like onehallyu, for hours on end, they see every single picture of him that has been released since before they debuted... I know they see that his nose is different. And why jump through hoops to try and explain it away when no one was judging him for it in the first place?

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I will never understand how dense fans can be when it comes to this kind of stuff. Like, if they stan him like I do then they spend a chunk of their time sifting through their tags on tumblr, twitter, sites like onehallyu, for hours on end, they see every single picture of him that has been released since before they debuted... I know they see that his nose is different. And why jump through hoops to try and explain it away when no one was judging him for it in the first place?

 

Well I mean, this is a discussion thread for these things... the reason people will feel the need to continue to find pictures of him is because the first photos used as "evidence" were dismissed as possibly edited. With the possibility that they were edited, I don't see why there should be a problem for people to go find more trustworthy pictures.

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I will just gladly let everyone know that fan site admins often edit their pictures. And with often I mean 99% of the time. They whiten the skin, make a smaller nose and a smaller jaw/v-line. I think nowadays only selfies might be trustworthy, since everything else is edited. Video evidence should exist. If you ever see a fansite with pictures without idols looking pale like they're dead, it is trustworthy! As for that Jeonghan pic, he looks pale af, so he has obviously already been edited, so ''why not work on his nose too?'' - fansite noona.

 

Never use photoshoots, official pictures and fansite pictures as evidence. All of them are undoubtedly edited, except there are some fansite that do not edit; but it is hard to find those.

Well, honestly, I haven't come across any fansites that photoshop noses. Only skin tone and eye color and most idols are pretty fair. Just sayin' and it's possible to edit selfies these days too. Video evidence exists but it's hard work. Plus people will say it's not hq enough.

 

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the shadow is really weird?

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Anyway i'm not saying he must have done it. It just looks suspect to me. there's a clear dent and then the two flesh below his lips pops out

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there's a faint line around under his lip area? although it could be wrinkling or something, idk.

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I will never understand how dense fans can be when it comes to this kind of stuff. Like, if they stan him like I do then they spend a chunk of their time sifting through their tags on tumblr, twitter, sites like onehallyu, for hours on end, they see every single picture of him that has been released since before they debuted... I know they see that his nose is different. And why jump through hoops to try and explain it away when no one was judging him for it in the first place?

 

Well maybe because this is the plastic surgery thread and we can discuss any idol and post photos that support our opinions??

I will never understand people who come to post here to defend their biases because they cant bear seeing their bias being discussed.

I am not judging on him i like Seventeen and i was giving my opinion,if some people think he did PS or not it is not going to ruin his career it is just a discussion dont get so butthurt.

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I honestly dont want to keep discussing this,everyone can have their own opinions

But his nose in the fansite pics i posted look the same as in this screenshots of a show champ video or was the video also retouched to make his nose sharper and more straight??tumblr_o7p0i1qGgl1sq99wto4_1280.jpg

 

 

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Searched seventeen in the search bar and found this (I haven't looked through the previous posts here sorry)

 

I've been following 17 for a while now (now my main bias group) and if there's one thing that's been confusing me about him since mansae era it's his nose, so I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed.

 

I've been checking through official pictures/fantakens since then and I get what people mean by I think sometimes they edit his nose? Like it looks different in every picture out there. I think his nose was edited in the boys be/mansae photo book (since that was pre PS).

 

But I think he's definitely had changes to his nose after mansae era and pretty u era has made it obvious since.

 

And if we think about their agency's track record with PS, UEE and Ren are other idols (who were prominent visuals within their groups too) who've gone through their fair share of noticeable PS. So it's not surprising if Jeonghan has had changes.

 

this is a gif of jeonghan just before debut. Not sure when the change happened

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he's handsome either way tbh but I liked his old nose. There was really no need and I hope the PS stops there for seventeen (unless they want to/aren't pressured by their agency then idk)

 

But I know 17 are an insecure bunch so idk

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Well, honestly, I haven't come across any fansites that photoshop noses. Only skin tone and eye color and most idols are pretty fair. Just sayin' and it's possible to edit selfies these days too. Video evidence exists but it's hard work. Plus people will say it's not hq enough.

 

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the shadow is really weird?

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Anyway i'm not saying he must have done it. It just looks suspect to me. there's a clear dent and then the two flesh below his lips pops out

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there's a faint line around under his lip area? although it could be wrinkling or something, idk.

some sites edit more than others. Who is this and what are you trying to prove? Lip injection?

I honestly dont want to keep discussing this,everyone can have their own opinions

But his nose in the fansite pics i posted look the same as in this screenshots of a show champ video or was the video also retouched to make his nose sharper and more straight??

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it is touched up (his eyebrows are blurry compared to his hair), but I don't know the extent. I still see a nose bump but it is straighter.

 

Edit: when was this?

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You don't know how video works do you :derp:

:imstupid: then please enlighten me on how a camera can pick up hundreds of strands of hair on his head yet the eyebrows look like a blurry mess

 

Skin blurring is a very common practice. A few years before Meredith Vieira retired from the Today show, I met her in real life. That show definitely edited her skin from hell to back. On TV, maybe she had 5 shallow wrinkles. In real life, she had at least 30. This was 6 or 7 years ago and for non americans the Today show airs everyday. I'd be shocked if the skin wasn't blurred.

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:imstupid: then please enlighten me on how a camera can pick up hundreds of strands of hair on his head yet the eyebrows look like a blurry mess

Skin blurring is a very common practice. A few years before Meredith Vieira retired from the Today show, I met her in real life. That show definitely edited her skin from hell to back. On TV, maybe she had 5 shallow wrinkles. In real life, she had at least 30. This was 6 or 7 years ago and for non americans the Today show airs everyday. I'd be shocked if the skin wasn't blurred.

No one's going to bother editing a backstage video from a music show beyond the very minimum tbh
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Well maybe because this is the plastic surgery thread and we can discuss any idol and post photos that support our opinions??

I will never understand people who come to post here to defend their biases because they cant bear seeing their bias being discussed.

I am not judging on him i like Seventeen and i was giving my opinion,if some people think he did PS or not it is not going to ruin his career it is just a discussion dont get so butthurt.

I might have understood the post I replied to but I was agreeing with you when I wrote this...

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so what exactly did key have done? its such a shame he is actually so beautiful and didn't need anything!!

 

Nose, he had work done on the tip.

 

:imstupid: then please enlighten me on how a camera can pick up hundreds of strands of hair on his head yet the eyebrows look like a blurry mess

 

Skin blurring is a very common practice. A few years before Meredith Vieira retired from the Today show, I met her in real life. That show definitely edited her skin from hell to back. On TV, maybe she had 5 shallow wrinkles. In real life, she had at least 30. This was 6 or 7 years ago and for non americans the Today show airs everyday. I'd be shocked if the skin wasn't blurred.

 

Soft focus isn't special effects editing.

 

This 17 guy has clearly had his nose done. 

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Well, honestly, I haven't come across any fansites that photoshop noses. Only skin tone and eye color and most idols are pretty fair. Just sayin' and it's possible to edit selfies these days too. Video evidence exists but it's hard work. Plus people will say it's not hq enough.

 

8FHfcr1.png

dpiXxWD.png

the shadow is really weird?

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Anyway i'm not saying he must have done it. It just looks suspect to me. there's a clear dent and then the two flesh below his lips pops out

fdvVBOU.png

there's a faint line around under his lip area? although it could be wrinkling or something, idk.

Jhope and rapmonster fansites edit their noses a shit ton. One day jhopes nose is 1 cm long and the next it looks natural, same goes for other bts members. It seems like every fansite has a different nose shape.

 

I think that is pretty normal, my whole family has that too and so do I. Not saying that just bc some other people have it, he could not have gotten surgery. But it seems kind of natural to me.

 

I will never understand how dense fans can be when it comes to this kind of stuff. Like, if they stan him like I do then they spend a chunk of their time sifting through their tags on tumblr, twitter, sites like onehallyu, for hours on end, they see every single picture of him that has been released since before they debuted... I know they see that his nose is different. And why jump through hoops to try and explain it away when no one was judging him for it in the first place?

First off, I'm not a fan of him so do not jump to conclusions. Second, I am only stating the obvious. It's pretty well known that fan sites edit their pictures to make the idols look better.

 

He might have gotten a nose job, but he also might not have. There is a youtuber named Taylor R whom always edits her videos. She makes her jawline smaller, her eyes bigger and her nose pointier. So, yes, videos can be edited too. It's kind of hard to tell a nosejob unless it is super obvious the nose shape changed; for example: from a roman to a pointed nose, like Ren from nu'est. His nose job is obvious. See the pictures below.

 

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Right now, I'm not sure if jeonghan has been under the knife.

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some sites edit more than others. Who is this and what are you trying to prove? Lip injection? it is touched up (his eyebrows are blurry compared to his hair), but I don't know the extent. I still see a nose bump but it is straighter.

chin implant

 

this is just speculation. if ps looks natural not even plastic surgeons can tell sometimes unless you did work on the person.

 

also...can people stop believe in lies like fan bing bing/ angelababy being natural because they had x rays to prove it? I mean, I don't think eyelid jobs show up on X-rays.

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Btw you can see Dara's new nose pretty good here:

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I wonder when she got it done.

 

Oh it looks nice, really subtle and still keeping the impression of her old nose. Is there any other pictures that show her nose well? I've never looked into her much...

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Tell me about Jonghyun

I honestly don't think he got as much as most people think he did. He obviously got his nose done twice, once was due to a car accident. This composite is old but still applies since he hasn't gotten his nose done since (as far as I can tell)

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Getting into fuzzier territory, I personally think he got his jaw done some time before Sherlock. When that comeback happened, Jonghyun looked so different but for a while I just chalked it up to the wildly different styling they were giving him. But then I realized he probably did his jaw, and you can tell because 2012 on, much more of his neck is visible when his head is at the same angle. You can see this in the composite above, third row 2009 vs third row 2012. This doesn't mean he got a straight up bone shave, but imo it's likely. From 2012 on, his cheekbones started looking a lot larger proportionally because his jaw got slightly narrower (which then became even more noticeable once he started losing a ton of weight in 2013) 

 

I have my suspicions he had his eye corners cut too (not his eyelids because they look exactly the same) but I'm much less confident in this compared to the jaw.

 

Now all of his invasive surgeries were done by 2013, most of them were done before Sherlock in 2012, yet people only started calling him 'ugly' and a 'plastic surgery monster' starting from late 2014 or so. And my theory is that it was mostly because of aging skin. For whatever reason, his skin started getting much looser on his face, leading to sagging and a generally much less youthful (and less attractive) appearance. You can start to see the beginning of this in the 2013 column, his face skin is generally a lot less tight than in earlier years, especially in the lower jaw area around his mouth. The question is why exactly this happened. One factor could be constant fluctuations in weight, it's no secret that Jonghyun has constantly lost and gained large amounts throughout his career and the period he looked the worst was also when he was at his thinnest (and also apparently had severe insomnia at the time). Another factor is probably the rapid aging that can be associated with fillers and botox. It's a pretty common pattern where a celebrity looks 21 for years and years up until they suddenly start looking 40. Fucking with your face does weird things to it long term. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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