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lol are you kidding me? 1st of all Sunny isn't wearing tape in the bottom  pic, those are both cut double eyelids. 2nd yes one of the best ways to tell is if someone closing/squinting still has visible lids because tape/glue cannot restrict the skin of the eye so much that it causes the pinching affect, since in reality the skin would just fold over the tape since the basic form/affect is practically if someone took a thin  string and did this to your lid when your eyes are closed/squinted in picture 2

 

 

 

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tape/glue does not in anyway have that much strength to fold the eye like that at all. 

 

this pic is taken legit around the same era if not before the dancing queen cap. Like you really don't know much about double eyelids, since there is legit one sign there that makes one be able to tell whether or not they have glue/tape  :p

 

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   First of all yes, you can have a crease when you close your eyes if you wear tape or have a thin fiber of somekind like an eyelah fiber, dental floss, or just a very thin fiber. Second if you always wear tape that will wear out your eyes so the skin may lose some elasticity thus causing a crease to show.  

 

look at this video for the last example of using the fiber

see how the end of the crease has that weird cut, that is how most times you will know someone is using tape or a thin fiber, the end of the crease looks funny and sort of cuts off..

 

 

 

 

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"My point isn't to prove she is natural, however mostly i discuss inconsistencies. Sunny doesn't always have a crease exposed, and her nose shape isn't consistent either."

 

1. When she winks you don't always see a crease

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2. Her nose depending on the angle look really straight or really "fat".  I have doubts she did her nose because the tip of her nose makes that little round dip and that has been consistent since her ealiest pics.

 

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I am not trying to prove she is natural, I believe if she did do anything its her eyes, however since I feel like no one will dicuss the inconsistencies about Sunny I will be the one to bring them up. I don't think she is natural but I also don't ignore inconsistencies either. Sunny when she squints her right eye there is no crease, but there may be one when she winks with her left, or sometimes not at all. There are airport shots and selca of her nose being bulbous and round however on tv where she is wearing makeup or has good lighting it looks slimmer around the tip.   Do these inconsistencies mean she may be natural, not really. However they can shed some light on the fact that its not always clean cut. Plus it can make great conversations

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Skin Whitening For Those Wondering: (These are the things I know that are available in Philippines and my take on Whitening products)

 

For the people wondering, Its not just Kpop groups that uses whitening products but almost everyone uses whitening products. But really though genes are the defining factor to your skin color. Either they're bleaching their skin or gluta shots. Some people use skin whitening soap.

 

Gluta shots are like once a month shots that people get to get that whitening effect. And the effects takes aout 2-3 days (4days maximum, depending wh\at you're skin color is) for it to show. Glutathione is also great to boosting immune system. Actually the real effect of Glutathione is an antioxidant and the whitening effect is just a side effect.

 

Soap:

If any of these soap reacted badly to you then stop immediately. Each individual has different skin and will react to any soap. 

 

 

(Soap that are available in Philippines, which is where I'm living at the moment.)

 

Cyleina: Black Pearl or Organic Rice Bran  (Rice Bran exfoliates your skin)

Kojie San (Some people made their skin drier so try putting lotion afterwards. And If you get redness and itchiness stop using it.)

Likas Papaya Whitening Soap

Tokyo Love Soap

Asian Secrets Lulur Whitening Body Scrub (Reviews says it exfoliates your skin well.)

Olay Natural White Bar

Belo Pink Bar (it somewhat leaves your skin smooth) blue bar 

 

 

Lotions: (These lotions have mostly chemical ingredients so be careful to read the ingredients. Also after using the soap try to use these lotions to get a better whitening effect.)

Nivea Lotion

Silka Skin 

Gluta Lotion

Kojie San Lotion

 

 

DO:

Look for natural ingredients such as Kojic acid, Vitamin C (lemons, limes, calamansi, and any citrus fruits are good for whitening), Azelaic acid, Arbutin.

 

If you can, try to avoid Hydroquinone and mercury whiteners unless you have talked with a dermatologist/physician. 

 

Go to a dermatologist to get better results

 

If you've been using whitening soap for about 2-3 months then stop using them. If it's not showing any signs then its not going to change it anytime soon or later.

 

If you're unsure about whitening products, ACTUALLY RESEARCH for the side effects and long lasting effects of the soap before you use it. It'll damage your skin if you're careless. 

 

DON'T:

Use any whitening products that's NOT APPROVE BY THE FDA!

 

Use different whitening soap at once because if you react to any of the soap, you won't know which one. (Wait for at least 2 weeks before using another brand of whitening soap. Same applies towards lotions.)

 

 

That's it. I didn't put creams and gels because usually you need a professional dermatologists and physicians for those kinds of things and I'm not a derma/physician. Good luck.

 

If a skin whitening agent is from a soap or lotion, I personally don't consider it as anything like surgery.

Correct me if I'm wrong but don't most skin whitening soap just remove dead skin cells faster which allows your skin to be lighter. I don't personally use it myself but I know someone who does and its not something that happens super quickly, it takes time.

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If a skin whitening agent is from a soap or lotion, I personally don't consider it as anything like surgery.

Correct me if I'm wrong but don't most skin whitening soap just remove dead skin cells faster which allows your skin to be lighter. I don't personally use it myself but I know someone who does and its not something that happens super quickly, it takes time.

 

I know, but I put it here since some people ask about whitening their skin and stuff.

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From what I've gotten

SNSD- none are natural

2NE1- Bom and Minzy(she had a nose job)

4minute- Gayoon, Jiyoon and Hyuna 

Kara- Seungyeon  and  Hara

F(x)- Luna, Sulli and Krystal

Apink- dat chick banging taemin, and few other girls forgot there names

BEG- all of dem

Sistar- Dasom and Hyorin

Crayon pop- da twins, and Gumni I think 

Boa- jaw surgery

After School- Kahi and Nana for sure most of them had ps but that new chick

Secret- Sunhwa and Ji Eun

Nine muses- all of dem

Wonder girls - Yubin and Yenny(most ppl don't notice she had her eyes done)

jiyoon :o

can you especify what 4minute did

I am curious

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Skin Whitening For Those Wondering: (These are the things I know that are available in Philippines and my take on Whitening products)

 

For the people wondering, Its not just Kpop groups that uses whitening products but almost everyone uses whitening products. But really though genes are the defining factor to your skin color. Either they're bleaching their skin or gluta shots. Some people use skin whitening soap.

 

Gluta shots are like once a month shots that people get to get that whitening effect. And the effects takes aout 2-3 days (4days maximum, depending wh\at you're skin color is) for it to show. Glutathione is also great to boosting immune system. Actually the real effect of Glutathione is an antioxidant and the whitening effect is just a side effect.

 

Soap:

If any of these soap reacted badly to you then stop immediately. Each individual has different skin and will react to any soap. 

 

 

(Soap that are available in Philippines, which is where I'm living at the moment.)

 

Cyleina: Black Pearl or Organic Rice Bran  (Rice Bran exfoliates your skin)

Kojie San (Some people made their skin drier so try putting lotion afterwards. And If you get redness and itchiness stop using it.)

Likas Papaya Whitening Soap

Tokyo Love Soap

Asian Secrets Lulur Whitening Body Scrub (Reviews says it exfoliates your skin well.)

Olay Natural White Bar

Belo Pink Bar (it somewhat leaves your skin smooth) blue bar 

 

 

Lotions: (These lotions have mostly chemical ingredients so be careful to read the ingredients. Also after using the soap try to use these lotions to get a better whitening effect.)

Nivea Lotion

Silka Skin 

Gluta Lotion

Kojie San Lotion

 

 

DO:

Look for natural ingredients such as Kojic acid, Vitamin C (lemons, limes, calamansi, and any citrus fruits are good for whitening), Azelaic acid, Arbutin.

 

If you can, try to avoid Hydroquinone and mercury whiteners unless you have talked with a dermatologist/physician. 

 

Go to a dermatologist to get better results

 

If you've been using whitening soap for about 2-3 months then stop using them. If it's not showing any signs then its not going to change it anytime soon or later.

 

If you're unsure about whitening products, ACTUALLY RESEARCH for the side effects and long lasting effects of the soap before you use it. It'll damage your skin if you're careless. 

 

DON'T:

Use any whitening products that's NOT APPROVE BY THE FDA!

 

Use different whitening soap at once because if you react to any of the soap, you won't know which one. (Wait for at least 2 weeks before using another brand of whitening soap. Same applies towards lotions.)

 

 

That's it. I didn't put creams and gels because usually you need a professional dermatologists and physicians for those kinds of things and I'm not a derma/physician. Good luck.

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Wait do you even know the difference between parralel and tapered lids? Because if you look at seo's eyes the are legit in the middle of tappered and parralel and that loosing weight makes your double eyelids more similar. The pic I used doesn't change anything. It's hard to explain but most Asians when having double eyelids on part of the crease would show but the rest usually at the beginning is folder under skin, before Seo's crease was covered under the fold and now it isn't

 

This only applies to full Asians, right? Because this is what Kiko Mizuhara's eyes look like, and she's half Korean half white.

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I'm guessing this would look like artificial if a full Asian had eyes like that, or at least that's how I understood it.

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This only applies to full Asians, right? Because this is what Kiko Mizuhara's eyes look like, and she's half Korean half white.

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I'm guessing this would look like artificial if a full Asian had eyes like that, or at least that's how I understood it.

    well the eyelid crease rules are a little different for whites or really anyone who have think eyelids. You know how some asian have monolids, its because thier eyelids have some fat (i think that is what it is) in them which prevents the lid from folding, hense why there is a general rule that if you see a crease when the eyelid is closed that means its double eyelid surgery,however not all asian have a fatty eyelid, so this rule isn't appliciable to everyone. Asians that wear tape, glue, or put on those thin fibers can (not all) develop a small crease naturally weither thier eyes are open or closed, probably from the wear and losening of the elasticity of their eyelid.

 

With that being said, the girl in that image, that doesn't look like fibers, glue or tape since the crease goes all the way to the inner parts of her eye, that could be surgery from what it looks like.

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    well the eyelid crease rules are a little different for whites or really anyone who have think eyelids. You know how some asian have monolids, its because thier eyelids have some fat (i think that is what it is) in them which prevents the lid from folding, hense why there is a general rule that if you see a crease when the eyelid is closed that means its double eyelid surgery,however not all asian have a fatty eyelid, so this rule isn't appliciable to everyone. Asians that wear tape, glue, or put on those thin fibers can (not all) develop a small crease naturally weither thier eyes are open or closed, probably from the wear and losening of the elasticity of their eyelid.

 

With that being said, the girl in that image, that doesn't look like fibers, glue or tape since the crease goes all the way to the inner parts of her eye, that could be surgery from what it looks like.

Well, like I said, Kiko is half white so that could definitely play a role in why her eyes look like that. I highly doubt she had plastic surgery, this is what she looked like when she was 14/15 (she's 22 in that photo above):

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But yeah, anyway, this isn't about Kiko. I remember the owner of kpsurgery had a post on how to differentiate actual Asian double eyelids from double eyelid surgery, I should go find it.

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Well, like I said, Kiko is half white so that could definitely play a role in why her eyes look like that. I highly doubt she had plastic surgery, this is what she looked like when she was 14/15 (she's 22 in that photo above):

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But yeah, anyway, this isn't about Kiko. I remember the owner of kpsurgery had a post on how to differentiate actual Asian double eyelids from double eyelid surgery, I should go find it.

    well I don't follow her but I think the fact that her crease entends all the way to the inner parts of her eye is reason to believe possible surgery since none of her younger year photos show that behavior.  She sure is a pretty mixed girl. I know there are different types of double eyelids surgeries for different affects of what you want done with your eyelid.

 

 

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  My point isn't to prove she is natural, however mostly i discuss inconsistencies. Sunny doesn't always have a crease exposed, and her nose shape isn't consistent either.

 

 

 

But back to Seohyun, I can agree about the possiblilty of some tapering of her eye, possble botox, but that is about it.

I agree on that she possibly had fat grafts like Yoona and Jessica did, probably nose as well since it's super common like other than Yuri i'm pretty sure that all of SNSD has had work done on there noses sooyoung,jessica,yoona,taeyeon and Hyoyeon being the most obvious of the girls. Like I said nose job and eyes are extremely common and most people do it even when they don't need to at all.

 

Idk you always try to proove that what people are saying isn't right and making the outcome come of as Sunny is natural when like I said when all you're bandmates, label mates and friends have had work done the chances of you being natural are slim. Also this just comes back to my main point that people who get there eyes done are always likely to do nose especially when sunny had an undefined/flat nose pre debut why is it easy to beleive she her eyes done but nose?  :._.:

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I agree on that she possibly had fat grafts like Yoona and Jessica did, probably nose as well since it's super common like other than Yuri i'm pretty sure that all of SNSD has had work done on there noses sooyoung,jessica,yoona,taeyeon and Hyoyeon being the most obvious of the girls. Like I said nose job and eyes are extremely common and most people do it even when they don't need to at all.

 

Idk you always try to proove that what people are saying isn't right and making the outcome come of as Sunny is natural when like I said when all you're bandmates, label mates and friends have had work done the chances of you being natural are slim. Also this just comes back to my main point that people who get there eyes done are always likely to do nose especially when sunny had an undefined/flat nose pre debut why is it easy to beleive she her eyes done but nose:._.:

     I guess because her nose doesn't look flat and undefined to me, it just look round.

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When you see her without makeup her nose is kinda round and wide, nothing like what I see when she has makeup on. Also the fact that unlike her eyes, I can't pin what she could have done with her nose. Her nose isn't stiff, most times you can tell if someone got thier nose done because certain parts of the nose don't move when the face doesn't certain guestures. I remember watching some show were she was eating, and her whole nose moved tip and all. I have seen her push the tip of her nose up....just little things like that make me doubt a nose job from her, also the fact she hasnt' done anything since debut.

 

   Her eyes are easier to believe because of how small they were for her predebut shots, but even then I have doubts since on more than one ccasion I have seen her wear tape on her eyes. However with her nose from what I have seen (i feel like a creeper now) behaves like a normal nose, when she smile the whole nose moves, when her pushes the tip its not stiff, so I have doubts on her getting implants or some kinda of incesion on her nose.

 

 

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    well I don't follow her but I think the fact that her crease entends all the way to the inner parts of her eye is reason to believe possible surgery since none of her younger year photos show that behavior.  She sure is a pretty mixed girl. I know there are different types of double eyelids surgeries for different affects of what you want done with your eyelid.

 

:happy:  so you do know, I was staying at a hostel with this med student when I was in Korea this is the main way to tell someone has had ps and there crease is surgically cut or tape. Since with tape it will fold under at one point a good example being Secrets JiEun who even though she had double eyelids she still put tape and it would fold under

 

how her crease looks like on the left is how most natural or cut lids look like the crease is higher up and is deeper, while the one of the right is more realistic to natural double eyelids and the affects of tape. Which is the frustrating part about when fans use tape with lids like that. Almost all my friends were Korean and I met a shit ton of Koreans who wore tape and they all complained about how tape didn't make there double eyelids big enough.

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funny thing is her eyes look similar on the left compared to now, which shows she was insecure about her crease for a very long time.

 

Suzy is one of the best examples of natural double eyelids

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compared to someone like bom or even seohyun, after a while it's really easy to spot

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note if you look at her crease in the left eye, that is another sign of no tape, double eyelid tape can't make that shape because it can't go that far into your eyelid sunny's eyes do the same a lot of the times, hence she doesn't have tape, the skin in her eye probably got looser making her crease less visible because the same thing happened to Yuri.

 

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     I guess because her nose doesn't look flat and undefined to me, it just look round. When you see her without makeup her nose is kinda round and wide, nothing like what I see when she has makeup on. Also the fact that unlike her eyes, I can't pin what she could have done with her nose. Her nose isn't stiff, most times you can tell if someone got thier nose done because certain parts of the nose don't move when the face doesn't certain guestures. I remember watching some show were she was eating, and her whole nose moved tip and all. I have seen her push the tip of her nose up....just little things like that make me doubt a nose job from her, also the fact she hasnt' done anything since debut.

 

   Her eyes are easier to believe because of how small they were for her predebut shots, but even then I have doubts since on more than one ccasion I have seen her wear tape on her eyes. However with her nose from what I have seen (i feel like a creeper now) behaves like a normal nose, when she smile the whole nose moves, when her pushes the tip its not stiff, so I have doubts on her getting implants or some kinda of incesion on her nose.

 

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I never said she had a rib or silicone implant,you do know that surgeons can and do take cartilage from the ear when doing nose jobs, which would give natural shape,feel and results?

what you explained happens to yoona's nose if you have an implant you're nose will still move because of the skin. I'm friends with a girl who had a nose job and she can do pig nose, actually in Korea girls will get nose jobs and use pig nose to deny ps but that's not the case. You can have a nose job and get a nose defined nose but it won't always be an implant it's fact that people who have higher noses have denser nose bridges so it's hurts more to touch and move it than someone with a flat nose. So someone with a with a natural nose can do the exact opposite of what you described.

 

Yoona's nose ain't stiff at all

 

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on different angles soo's nose doesn't looking prominent, does that mean no nose job?

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probably my most valid example chanyeol

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he can do that which "every natural" nose can yet

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Yeah sunny's nose could also easily be a filler. Either you don't know ps much or you're pretty biased.

 

Well, like I said, Kiko is half white so that could definitely play a role in why her eyes look like that. I highly doubt she had plastic surgery, this is what she looked like when she was 14/15 (she's 22 in that photo above):

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But yeah, anyway, this isn't about Kiko. I remember the owner of kpsurgery had a post on how to differentiate actual Asian double eyelids from double eyelid surgery, I should go find it.

i'm sorry but how can you not see she got her eyes tweaked it's so obvious, like i'm pretty sure she's had a nose job as well  :._.:  

 

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definetely got them tweaked.

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   First of all yes, you can have a crease when you close your eyes if you wear tape or have a thin fiber of somekind like an eyelah fiber, dental floss, or just a very thin fiber. Second if you always wear tape that will wear out your eyes so the skin may lose some elasticity thus causing a crease to show.  

 

look at this video for the last example of using the fiber

see how the end of the crease has that weird cut, that is how most times you will know someone is using tape or a thin fiber, the end of the crease looks funny and sort of cuts off..

 

 

 

 

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"My point isn't to prove she is natural, however mostly i discuss inconsistencies. Sunny doesn't always have a crease exposed, and her nose shape isn't consistent either."

 

1. When she winks you don't always see a crease

 

 

2. Her nose depending on the angle look really straight or really "fat".  I have doubts she did her nose because the tip of her nose makes that little round dip and that has been consistent since her ealiest pics.

 

 

 

 

I am not trying to prove she is natural, I believe if she did do anything its her eyes, however since I feel like no one will dicuss the inconsistencies about Sunny I will be the one to bring them up. I don't think she is natural but I also don't ignore inconsistencies either. Sunny when she squints her right eye there is no crease, but there may be one when she winks with her left, or sometimes not at all. There are airport shots and selca of her nose being bulbous and round however on tv where she is wearing makeup or has good lighting it looks slimmer around the tip.   Do these inconsistencies mean she may be natural, not really. However they can shed some light on the fact that its not always clean cut. Plus it can make great conversations

I do know that you can get double eyelids from tape, but you do know that just like grown ones over time your eyes will look noticeable uneven especially with tape.I am saying wearing tape will NOT make the crease show when you're eyes a slightly closed or winking and won't give it a deep crease. Also the gif you used of sunny clearly shows she's not wearing tape by how close the crease is to the inner corner of her eyes and how deep it is too. Also have you never seen lids? that have had surgery done on them you do know most surgeons make the crease end like that right?

 

look at the 2nd pic

 

 

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 let alone tape, the crease does not show if you're eyes are closed. The pic of Sunny with Heechul shows it, you would either see this

 

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or this

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not this

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also if you read what I told you before I clearly said that skin folds over the eyelids when you wink this doesn't happen to all eyes it depends on how deep your double eyelids are, that's clearly happening to sunny when she winks example here, since with yoru logic everyone in snsd either where tape and dont have double eyelids

 

 

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Best bet for you to get them are to go to any Asian store and find them, if you live in the states. Try Korean or Chinese supermarket/stores. They might have Asian secrets because it's a product of Thailand or Singaporean or Malaysian (not sure which one.) and Olay, I think you can find them in any CVS/Drugstore/Wallmart store. The others I've not mentioned. You most likely wont find them. But try going to a Filipino store and check if they have it. Likas Papaya and Kojie san I'm sure you'll find them. Not so sure about that though.

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Skin Whitening For Those Wondering: (These are the things I know that are available in Philippines and my take on Whitening products)

 

For the people wondering, Its not just Kpop groups that uses whitening products but almost everyone uses whitening products. But really though genes are the defining factor to your skin color. Either they're bleaching their skin or gluta shots. Some people use skin whitening soap.

 

Gluta shots are like once a month shots that people get to get that whitening effect. And the effects takes aout 2-3 days (4days maximum, depending wh\at you're skin color is) for it to show. Glutathione is also great to boosting immune system. Actually the real effect of Glutathione is an antioxidant and the whitening effect is just a side effect.

 

Soap:

If any of these soap reacted badly to you then stop immediately. Each individual has different skin and will react to any soap. 

 

 

(Soap that are available in Philippines, which is where I'm living at the moment.)

 

Cyleina: Black Pearl or Organic Rice Bran  (Rice Bran exfoliates your skin)

Kojie San (Some people made their skin drier so try putting lotion afterwards. And If you get redness and itchiness stop using it.)

Likas Papaya Whitening Soap

Tokyo Love Soap

Asian Secrets Lulur Whitening Body Scrub (Reviews says it exfoliates your skin well.)

Olay Natural White Bar

Belo Pink Bar (it somewhat leaves your skin smooth) blue bar 

 

 

Lotions: (These lotions have mostly chemical ingredients so be careful to read the ingredients. Also after using the soap try to use these lotions to get a better whitening effect.)

Nivea Lotion

Silka Skin 

Gluta Lotion

Kojie San Lotion

 

 

DO:

Look for natural ingredients such as Kojic acid, Vitamin C (lemons, limes, calamansi, and any citrus fruits are good for whitening), Azelaic acid, Arbutin.

 

If you can, try to avoid Hydroquinone and mercury whiteners unless you have talked with a dermatologist/physician. 

 

Go to a dermatologist to get better results

 

If you've been using whitening soap for about 2-3 months then stop using them. If it's not showing any signs then its not going to change it anytime soon or later.

 

If you're unsure about whitening products, ACTUALLY RESEARCH for the side effects and long lasting effects of the soap before you use it. It'll damage your skin if you're careless. 

 

DON'T:

Use any whitening products that's NOT APPROVE BY THE FDA!

 

Use different whitening soap at once because if you react to any of the soap, you won't know which one. (Wait for at least 2 weeks before using another brand of whitening soap. Same applies towards lotions.)

 

 

That's it. I didn't put creams and gels because usually you need a professional dermatologists and physicians for those kinds of things and I'm not a derma/physician. Good luck.

 

i had a soap but my skin didnt like it very much around the second time i used it but it works quick imo 

 

i really need to find something that gets rid of freckles from sun damage baaaadly living in the carbbiean has been horrible on my skin >:-( 

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more double eyelid pics, with your logic sunny has been wering tape for over 7 years which is unlikely since it costs more to wear tape than to just get surgery and have it over with. Like others have said double eyelid surgery is practically like makeup.  

 

sorry for the spam everyone

zoom into this one

 

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her crease in the left starts/attaches almost if not right at the eyelash line, double eyelid tape does not do that all it does is make fold over skin.

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Not too forget sunny has posted no makeup selca's where she has the crease, like how obvious does it have to get it? Hunny you're getting past delusional  :wth:

 

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i had a soap but my skin didnt like it very much around the second time i used it but it works quick imo 

 

i really need to find something that gets rid of freckles from sun damage baaaadly living in the carbbiean has been horrible on my skin >:-( 

 

Are your freckles big or little? Because it's okay to have freckles. But if you still want to them gone then I'd suggest get the Olay one, because of where you live. And if there's no local whitening bars you have then try ordering online. There's tons in Ebay. And if you want to know more you should do more research and do stop using the soap. It'll destroy your skin even more.

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:happy:  so you do know, I was staying at a hostel with this med student when I was in Korea this is the main way to tell someone has had ps and there crease is surgically cut or tape. Since with tape it will fold under at one point a good example being Secrets JiEun who even though she had double eyelids she still put tape and it would fold under

 

how her crease looks like on the left is how most natural or cut lids look like the crease is higher up and is deeper, while the one of the right is more realistic to natural double eyelids and the affects of tape. Which is the frustrating part about when fans use tape with lids like that. Almost all my friends were Korean and I met a shit ton of Koreans who wore tape and they all complained about how tape didn't make there double eyelids big enough.

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funny thing is her eyes look similar on the left compared to now, which shows she was insecure about her crease for a very long time.

 

Suzy is one of the best examples of natural double eyelids

 

compared to someone like bom or even seohyun, after a while it's really easy to spot

 

note if you look at her crease in the left eye, that is another sign of no tape, double eyelid tape can't make that shape because it can't go that far into your eyelid sunny's eyes do the same a lot of the times, hence she doesn't have tape, the skin in her eye probably got looser making her crease less visible because the same thing happened to Yuri.

 

 

 

 

 

I never said she had a rib or silicone implant,you do know that surgeons can and do take cartilage from the ear when doing nose jobs, which would give natural shape,feel and results?

what you explained happens to yoona's nose if you have an implant you're nose will still move because of the skin. I'm friends with a girl who had a nose job and she can do pig nose, actually in Korea girls will get nose jobs and use pig nose to deny ps but that's not the case. You can have a nose job and get a nose defined nose but it won't always be an implant it's fact that people who have higher noses have denser nose bridges so it's hurts more to touch and move it than someone with a flat nose. So someone with a with a natural nose can do the exact opposite of what you described.

 

Yoona's nose ain't stiff at all

 

 

 

on different angles soo's nose doesn't looking prominent, does that mean no nose job?

 

 

probably my most valid example chanyeol

 

he can do that which "every natural" nose can yet

 

 

 

Yeah sunny's nose could also easily be a filler. Either you don't know ps much or you're pretty biased.

 

i'm sorry but how can you not see she got her eyes tweaked it's so obvious, like i'm pretty sure she's had a nose job as well  :._.:  

 

 

 

 

definetely got them tweaked.

 

 

 

I do know that you can get double eyelids from tape, but you do know that just like grown ones over time your eyes will look noticeable uneven especially with tape.I am saying wearing tape will NOT make the crease show when you're eyes a slightly closed or winking and won't give it a deep crease. Also the gif you used of sunny clearly shows she's not wearing tape by how close the crease is to the inner corner of her eyes and how deep it is too. Also have you never seen lids? that have had surgery done on them you do know most surgeons make the crease end like that right?

 

look at the 2nd pic

 

 

 

 

 let alone tape, the crease does not show if you're eyes are closed. The pic of Sunny with Heechul shows it, you would either see this

 

 

or this

 

not this

 

 

also if you read what I told you before I clearly said that skin folds over the eyelids when you wink this doesn't happen to all eyes it depends on how deep your double eyelids are, that's clearly happening to sunny when she winks example here, since with yoru logic everyone in snsd either where tape and dont have double eyelids

 

 

 

 

 

more double eyelid pics, with your logic sunny has been wering tape for over 7 years which is unlikely since it costs more to wear tape than to just get surgery and have it over with. Like others have said double eyelid surgery is practically like makeup.  

 

sorry for the spam everyone

zoom into this one

 

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her crease in the left starts/attaches almost if not right at the eyelash line, double eyelid tape does not do that all it does is make fold over skin.

 

Not too forget sunny has posted no makeup selca's where she has the crease, like how obvious does it have to get it? Hunny you're getting past delusional  :wth:

 

 

    how am i supposed to reply when you have comments all over the place?  My brain isn't that big, please keep it in one comment not four.

 

On the subject of creases not being seen when you eyes are closed, that isn't always true and i explained that already using a video. I never said everyone can but it is possible. Plus here is one you can see

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vWdNS-VUQI:59 you can see the light reflecting off the tape

 

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 I don't understand where you were going with Yoona, Sooyoung, or Taeyeon winking, I posted a video talking about different types of surgery that don't show a crease or ccan show a crease when the eye. its the Essential video.

 

On the subject of noses, what I meant by a stiff nose is one that doesn't change during facial guesture like smiling, eating, laughing or pursing of the lips. I found this as an example of what I am talking about

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"You can see Yoon Shi Yoon laughing, curious, and flaring his nostrils, the width of the nose tip doesn’t change much. Some people when they smile their nose tip dips down, or tends to be a little wider/flatter."

 

link:http://livelovedream.ca/how-to-tell-if-someone-has-a-nose-jo/

 

granted this is for a implant but i mean the same basic principle of the flexiblity of the nose, it can make the difference if someone tampered with it.

 

We know what Sunny looks like without makeup already. But I get what you mean, and again I believe if Sunny got anything done it was her eyes. I am not denying that fact, i have doubts on her nose and find a lot of inconsitencies with her, because I can't tell if her eyes are parallel or tapered since the crease size and length aren't always the same. Sunny debuted with a "double eyelid" and her eyes from way predebut ( i think highschool or middle school) showed she had a small crease. However again, there are also fanpics of her without make and there is no crease at all niether at the end of her eyes.

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i'm sorry but how can you not see she got her eyes tweaked it's so obvious, like i'm pretty sure she's had a nose job as well  :._.:  

 

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definetely got them tweaked.

Yeah, you're right. Her double eyelid surgery is pretty obvious. I have no problem admitting my faves had ps, I never understood why people can't cope with it.  :._.:

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