Official Plastic Surgery Thread

[Lolly21]

36 minutes ago, Zaralei said:

How do you guys differentiate buccal fat removal from natural weightloss? I'd normally look at the rest of the body for changes in weight too, but some weight changes aren't exactly that noticeable and people gain and lose fat differently -- not to mention how bone structure also plays a part on how one would look in different levels of weight. Then there's also some non surgical procedures/practices that could depuff the face as well. I looked up before and after pics right now and while there are some cases where the change is pretty obvious, I honestly became confused because a lot of the sample pictures aren't even that drastic?

One person who got it removed is apparently Bella Hadid. While I agree that her face looks a lot more hollow and angular now, I didn't immediately think that she had her buccal fats removed since the "before" pics that were used were taken when she was a bit heavier than she is now. Sure she wasn't exactly chubby, but if you'd look up pictures of her or watch videos, she definitely had more meat in her bones and wasn't as skinny as she is today. My initial thought was that along with contouring and her other surgeries (apparently a pony tail lift along with others) resulted to her present looks, so now I'm just plain confused lol. There are also tons of pics of other people where I could barely spot a difference as well if any at all does this procedure have some tell tale signs that I'm not aware of?? 

Hmmm, I am no expert but at least with Bella, her face has gotten slimmer throughout the years, but not in a natural way.

I think checking the space located between the cheek and the chin may help...

For example, my face is slimmer than in my teens because I am in my late 20's.

Now, Bella's face has gotten slimmer in the span of a few years, which is not enough excuse to name it as a consequence of "aging"...

Another example is actress Margot Robbie, I think. Hers may be not as natural and it ages her a bit.

Now, in KPOP, I think SF9 Taeyang and Jaeyoon has buccal fat removal; they have been mentioned in the thread.

Quite a lot of idols seem to have it as well, of course, but I cannot think of many names now, lol.

 

[Lolly21]

9 hours ago, Zaralei said:

Help I'm not all too familiar with sf9 so I searched them up and their predebut pictures -- yet I still couldn't particularly tell if they had their buccal fats removed or it's just losing baby fat rip. I think this is might be one of the harder procedures to spot for me unless the change is too drastic. Thank you though! 

Hahaha, I get it, it's hard.

I mean, with SF9, those members that I mentioned were already so skinny.

If anything, Jaeyoon is more muscular now so is obvious he has more weight and Yoo Taeyang is slightly muscular.

Also, the first one was born in 1994 and the other one in 1997 so, it's not like they are teenagers, lol.

You could take how they look and maybe their body type (easier to notice if it's a girl) into consideration to speculate if someone has buccal fat removal.

[Lolly21]

On 1/4/2022 at 7:47 PM, doongie said:

He got it done after Side Effects, before Double Knot era.

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Unrelated, but do you have the video link where your signature is from? I LOVE IT.

I know it's TWICE but is that from their recent tour?

They are giving "Britney Spears Dream from Within A Dream tour" and "Do Something" vibes and I am living.

 

Edited January 6, 2022 by Lolly21

[Lolly21]

5 hours ago, Zaralei said:

I don't think this has been discussed or is discussed as often here as other procedures, but which idols do you think have undergone liposuction? 

I was watching a Lorry Hill video about Kendall Jenner and she expressed that Kendall might have gotten that procedure even though she started out fairly skinny already. Now I know a lot of idols who were criticized before and then had a "glow up" after losing weight, mostly women because of the double standards as usual, so it made me wonder how many of these cases just get passed up. Liposuction could also target specific places such as the waist, thighs, calves, arms, etc to achieve a certain look, so even already skinny idols could get it done if they have "stubborn areas" where they can't lose fat. This might be true for those who initially have a straighter waist but then suddenly look "carved in" but were already skinny to begin with. Yuna comes to mind here. Even if you cover her hip area, the top of her waist dips in more now. 

Dalla Dalla:

Icy:

Now:

However, to be fair, Yuna was also very young when she debuted so it might just be her shedding baby fat and growing into her body more.

The ones at the top of my head that netizens praise for losing weight  though are Red Velvet's Joy, Gfriend's Umji, Twice's Jihyo, and Aespa's Ningning and Giselle. 

Joy - bodyshamed until Dumb Dumb (September 2015), dropped weight in One of These Nights (March 2016). Mostly maintained her weight with minimal gain or loss occasionally. 

Umji - maintained weight until Navillera (July 2016), pulled out of promotions in October for the rest of the year because of an injury, lost weight in Fingertip (March 2017), gained back the weight, lost weight again in April 2018 along with plastic surgery rumors (would love to hear what you guys think about this too). I think it's also worth mentioning that she initially struggled to lose weight too. 

Jihyo - kept her sixteen weight until debut, lost weight during Cheer Up (April 2016), but she put on her debut weight again around July/August (?) of the same year, lost the weight again for TT (October 2016). Mostly gradual weight loss since then. 

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Ningning and Giselle - both started getting compliments about looking different because of weight loss since Next Level (May 2021). This continued on more until Savage (October 2021) and the year end awards. Personally however, I think their faces slimmed down a lot – and they may have genuinely lost weight too – but I find it harder to see a big difference in their bodies. I think the issue was with their clothes and general styling in most of black mamba.

Black Mamba:

Next Level:

Savage:

Not saying that I think all of the ones mentioned in this post got the procedure done – I know there are other methods of losing weight such as the ever so popular diet and workout. I'm just curious about what your thoughts might be on whether or not these cases might be the result of lipo (or are there others in the industry rumored to have gotten it done?). 

Hmmm, very interesting!

Although, with Joy, I believe this was a very gradual weight loss.

It wasn't achieved in 3 months or right before a comeback. It looks a like a healthy weight loss overall. 

She looked her thinnest on Red Flavor, then she gained a little weight for Bad Boy, I believe.

[Lolly21]

1 hour ago, Zaralei said:

I'm not that familiar with liposuction yet hence why I made the first post, but tbh I think so too. Dumb Dumb was the era where all of RV got bashed for their weight except for Seulgi, and One of These Nights where she started looking slimmer was released around 6 months after that so it's a pretty reasonable time frame. I agree that Red Flavor was probably her thinnest era, but I think part of it may also be because it's a summer comeback since she has gained the bit of weight she lost prior to that and maintained it since. I don't think she had any rebounds and seemed to lean on exercise a lot to keep her figure based on her muscles, and her outlook (how she views and takes care of herself) also seems very positive to me. Plus, I think her figure still retains the same body type that she had before her weight loss (rectangular) and no other areas normally targeted by liposuction along with her face/neck seem off either (by this I mean only losing fat in those areas), which might be a good indication that she's gone through a natural process of losing weight. 

Yes, she was her thinnest back then because it was a summer comeback.

She seems like someone very positive and healthy, which I really like.

Your post was very interesting though. Do you think the same could be applied in men? Like, for example, with the abs and stomach definition?

I think it's called stomach etching...

[Lolly21]

2 hours ago, doongie said:

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Yes it's from their tour. The girls look so good.. Nayeon in that outfit whew

 

 

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Thank you so much!

 

[Lolly21]

10 hours ago, shia said:

I came across this video and it really made me think twice when I see an idol make an appearance or posts an image or video of themselves with a drastic change. I feel like I have to check out other videos released at similar times to see if it was just a filter or the real deal.

Yes, I know when my fave idols are using a filter in the pictures or videos...

It's super annoying because I think these people are already so beautiful, but all the whitewashing it's, ugh.

I've seen fancams that are truly a godsend because you can see the texture of their skin, redness and they have some spots or zits. Which is reassuring, because, at the end of the day, these idols are people like you and me. The only difference is that they need to take care of their physical appearance more than us people with "regular" jobs. Visuals are very important.

Also, I love the beauty of the unfiltered. 

[Lolly21]

2 hours ago, mEeEeE said:

(HIP) PADDING

The use of hip (also butt and breast) padding by female Kpop idols is rife/commonplace these days 

Sometimes it’s made compulsory for female idols to wear them. A former Kpop idol has talked about how padding is one of the things they must wear before going on stage. 

They starve the girls/women to be very thin then “cheat” by putting padding on certain places to get the “snatched” waist and hourglass body. 

…it’s all an illusion. Most fans don’t known it and ending up complimenting/idolising/comparing themselves to pieces of foam rather than actual idols’ bodies. 

Also male idols are known for using shoulder padding. 

Oh, this reminds me of AOA when they were promoting Heart Attack. They were so skinny but were also using padding and that was super obvious.

I'm sure there are many more idols using it.

Like, the perfection levels are insane: they want them to look sticky thin but also curvaceous with an hourglass body?

That is just not possible, they need to pick one or the other... Or just let them be.

 

[Lolly21]

Chaeryeong's nose looks so different! I didn't notice until I saw this video:

Wow.

[Lolly21]

Do you guys think ASTRO Sanha has lip fillers?

I know that his nose has already been mentioned, but I see fillers on his face, making it look softer and rounder. His lips look plumper as well...

 

[Lolly21]

19 hours ago, miwa201 said:

Did Joy only get her eyelids done?

No. she has been mentioned before: she did something on her teeth, eyes, nose and can't remember what else. 

Nonetheless, she looks fabulous and effortless. I hope she stays that way; some new generation idols need to take notes, lol.

[Lolly21]

4 hours ago, Newton'sApples said:

Does eyelid surgery not fix ptosis? or is another specified surgery? 
 I noticed that her eyes are still uneven 

No idea... Can someone add to this? It is fascinating.

[Lolly21]

18 hours ago, Zaralei said:

Is it just the hair or is Park Hyungsik looking a little different here? 

Ugh, yes.

I have only watched one of his dramas from a few years ago but I instantly noticed how overfilled and round his face is when I watch Soundtrack #1. Why?!

There is no need for this, in my opinion. He had a beautiful bone structure... 

[Lolly21]

On 3/28/2022 at 8:51 AM, chewyandminnie said:

she's not a kpop idol, but i've always been interested in ju jingyi's possible procedures. she keeps on denying that she's had ps (incl her own fans ofc), but i think otherwise. apparently this is what she used to look like:

and now, the after:

and a side by side comparison:

i suspect she's gotten a zygoma reduction (cheekbone reduction), lower blepharoplasty (the lower part of her eyes looks a lot smoother) nose implant (that nose is suspiciously high and pointy), a chin implant (her chin is a lot longer and pointier now, and it has given her face somewhat of an egg shape), and possibly masseter muscle botox (considering her jaw mandible is still there but in front view, her jaw has slimmed down to a v-shape). her eyes look a lot bigger/more open too, compared to her smaller, more foxlike eyes from before, so i suspect epicanthoplasty and lateral canthoplasty. she may have possibly had eyelid surgery too to further enhance the double eyelids she already had.

anyways, i think her work was pretty well done, and she def looks like she could've competed with kpop visuals had she been a kpop idol.

This girl... Wow.

There are some pictures there that look very edited with the whitewashing as well, which makes her look a bit uncanny...

 

Edited March 31, 2022 by Lolly21