Official Plastic Surgery Thread

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On 10/12/2020 at 5:48 AM, Maurizio Sarri said:

JooE needs to stop.
Did Ahin get a boobjob btw? 
and Jane doesn’t look like she got fillers, but sth is definitely different, bc it took me some time to recognize her.

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Jeongyeon, Nayeon and Dahyun look overly photoshopped or got sth done like fillers. Tell me im wrong pls

This picture looks overly edited,  even mina and chae look different. 

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On 10/19/2020 at 12:43 AM, KentasGlittery EyeMakeup said:

She doesn't really and I don't think it's just lip filler like others mentioned. There's something else different. What she also doesn't look like are her Instagram photos, she looks better and they're so badly edited.

Imo she did something to her eyes (other than lips). She seems to have a more mature or stronger eye shape compared to when she first debuted(even though its slight). There could also be a slight reduction in check bones.

Watching lorry hill's videos,  she explains how celebrity surgeons literally make millimetre size changes overtime, so that they don't come as drastic, or just looks like 'natural' facial changes to some. Sometimes it also leaves us questioning whether a person would do surgery for something so minimal.  But it really is minimal changes overtime for most celebrities.  And looking at yeri's past photos,  I can  personally see this example in her. Imo it wasn't all 'growth'. 

Edited October 21, 2020 by StanSatan

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So... why are ya'll talking about talented/ can't sing/akgae and all that in a plastic surgery thread again? Im lost 

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If someone has gotten surgeries on their face,  can they do sports where the ball hits their face or like boxing?

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On 10/29/2020 at 5:14 AM, wap said:

Pick one idol who you guys think is "natural"

Hongbin but he isnt an idol anymore rip

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aespa ningning before and after

They nearly didnt keep any of her natural traits rip

She looks really pretty now but imo her eyes kinda look unrealistic. They should've expanded a little less for a natural look.

The lenses are prolly adding to this effect tho.

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On 11/6/2020 at 5:38 PM, Shads said:

Honestly some of y’all are dragging it with aespa ps some of y’all going as far as saying they got more ps then their seniors which is..they definitely got work done but not as much as some of y’all claim, I’ll insert some more accurate pics of them since the pics used here are the worst pre debut pics from when they were in elementary school and in winter’s Case not even her.

karina:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CHO5Oa8AWAp/?igshid=j7vb7oq105b4

https://www.instagram.com/p/CG6MCgxgFrx/?igshid=1afnu0dfby8u2

This was her in late middle school/early high school, she looks similar but probably got her eyes and nose done even though she already had a very nice nose so idk what that was for, as for her jaw karina naturally has a small v shaped face as you can see in her pre debut pics but when she was in middle school she got veneers which would explain the slight change

Giselle:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CHMv7pdla53/?igshid=fxyquei4pno0

https://www.instagram.com/p/CHAClkCFa1I/?igshid=1urfgpo2ts8e0

not gonna comment on her much because I can’t pinpoint her changes yet but I think she might’ve gotten her jaw done

winter:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CHPLKmOgsUA/?igshid=17pqi9y0tpavb

https://www.instagram.com/p/CHJY9arAqil/?igshid=1jjlbajjmwpye

winter looks the same as she did when she was a kid but she might’ve gotten her nose done if anything other then that I don’t see changes, The pre debut pics linked was her elementary school graduation pic and some baby pics we don’t have any other pics yet

ningning:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CGNJ5b6B2SE/?igshid=p12nv1d66zhw

Fyi Ningning was 13 when she entered sm so all her pre-sm pics were when she was 12 and younger, most of Ningning’s Changes were thanks to getting rid of her bangs and braces and idol styling, as you can see from her pics from my smt when she was 13/14 she looks pretty similar but I think she might’ve touched up her nose but not lips as people claim I think that’s just makeup and photoshop she already had pretty decent sized lips

i think it’s mostly editing and photoshop that makes the ps look bad or extreme to some people even though I personally don’t see it I though we were over using teaser pics as proof

some of the photos here already look like after surgery pics (specially giselle). Many who aspire to become idols get ps very young too (pre-teens even), that's what its seems like with ningning in those pics. 

But I do agree that their teaser pics had a lot of photoshopping. 

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9 minutes ago, lighterxx said:

at least i love what they did with her lips tbh, i suits her somehow, tho i agree maybe her eyes could be more natural rip

me too. her lips don't look too pouty. I like the shape!

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I think the thing about "aespa looking too obvious" has to do with their eyes. Their eyes stand out too much on their faces + the lenses on the teaser pics add to it. Meanwhile winter looked great to me bc her eyes don't look as  overdone as the other's imo. Tho her v-line edit in the teaser pic was tragic.

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29 minutes ago, lighterxx said:

I honest to god thought she is Chuu for a sec she definitely did something to her jaw, but I can't tell rip

It's possible its jawshave but it can be fat reduction too I guess o.o

But this is such a heavily edited gif, I agree waiting for more content tho. Still Ningning and Giselle is very obvious, when Winter and Karina is harder to tell, so I understand people wanting to discuss it 

I used that gif to show her eye size, which I think fits her face nicely.

Karina is also obvious imo

Edited November 8, 2020 by StanSatan

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1 minute ago, lighterxx said:

Oh I think her eyes are natural, if it helps so I never even thought about questioning her lol, only her nose perhaps but so far SM seems to do ALOT of contouring on her so I need more pics

Hmm idk about natural tbh. I'd suspect the aegyosal and mayhaps cut corners.  But tbh as long as it looks naturalish I wouldn't care much to dig deeper lol 

Yea I think variety shows would be the best resort atm!

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On 11/4/2020 at 7:08 AM, Owlet said:

I remember seeing a couple people online suspecting that chaeryeong might've gotten something done (most likely eyes and/or nose) but I can't say for sure.

I really can't tell if she got something done to her nose or not since it looks natural and any differences could simply be due to puberty but I'm pretty convinced that she did get double eyelid surgery, she had monolids up until after SIXTEEN I'd say and now she's got an "in-line" type of double eyelids where you only see a little bit of the "double lid" near the outer corner of the eye, which looks super natural in my opinion.

(Chaeryeong on the left/Chaeyeon (IZ*ONE) on the right)

 

After

 

Sometimes her nose looks similar to her predebut nose (pic below) and sometimes it looks much slimmer but still not too thin.

Either way, if she really did get ps, it was really well done and subtle imo.

 

I feel like its makeup that makes it look slimmer, bc in that one after pic, her nose looks the same as before

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43 minutes ago, lighterxx said:

Aegyosal maybe but I didn't notice much change in eye size,.so I'm not sure about cut corners

I suspect of inner sculpting tho, they deepen area between eyes by filling up that part of nose a bit, it creates illusion of bigger eyes o.o I forgot its real name tho, its a surgery I rarely suspect since few get it

Cut corners not so much for the size but for the eye shape (?)

I always thought people got inner eye corner cuts for a pretty shape,  but welp idk much about the ps terms

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3 hours ago, tgog said:

 I thought Suzy only removed her baby hair a while back? I noticed the baby hair is back in her recent photoshoot though.

I actually meant to ask about Suzy. Her styling at events is pretty terrible, but she looked like a completely different person at her latest press conference. Almost resembles Momo without bangs.

vs how she looks in her currently airing drama

I like her press conference look more lol

And somehow that looks more like Suzy to me than in that drama gif?

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1 hour ago, Maurizio Sarri said:

okay guys, who are they

Wait is this edited?? That don't look like what we saw thus far. I actually like Giselle a lot more here tho. 

Edited November 15, 2020 by StanSatan

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9 hours ago, lighterxx said:

I took this from a fan account sharing her pics, not my ss or anything

She looks better here but definitely not like her teasers o.o did they overly edit her before?

Winter looks really different here too

Wow they look like normal people.  Karina specially, she looked robotic in her previous videos.  But she looks much more natural here. Even lingling. I like this better!

Giselle has a lil bit rose vibes

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If this is how Karina used to look like before, daang SM you botched her up. Just like they did to wendy's naturally stunning jawlines, and yuta's chin.

I don't understand SM's obsession with narrow v-lines or sharp chins...like at all.

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1 hour ago, KentasGlittery EyeMakeup said:

Well, yeah. Their concept is the avatar thing or something like that, so I just assumed their photos were edited to suit that and maybe resemble avatars a little. They looked too uncanny to me to believe that they got that much ps and the mv teaser proves that they didn't. They all look way more natural in that. And in the group photo with the avatars, they look as if they could be avatars themselves, which sort of proves to me that's why they're edited like that. I could be wrong, but I think it's edited like that for those reasons. I'm not saying they were edited well, the photo below looks strange to me and in the first photos released they all looked to me as if they all went to the same surgeon and got exactly the same face, but I do think it was just made to look like that for this concept.

Of course that their real faces are way better and some of their photos seem weirdly edited, but if their concept was, lets say, a Dalmatian dog and they were wearing Dalmatian dog makeup and clothes, and were edited to resemble them a little or something like that, I feel like nobody would be saying anything about naturalness looking better and would be able to separate the concept from the real artists, but the lines are skewed here. 

That all aside, Ningning is so pretty! 

Tbh, from the mv, karina still looked very unnatural. Like her jaws were shaved down too much + the eyes. For ningning, its the eyes that are slightly off, but she still looks very natural in the mv (and very cute cheeks!)

Winter and giselle have naturalesque looks even in this ai concept (in the mv)

 

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On 11/19/2020 at 9:23 PM, KentasGlittery EyeMakeup said:

Karina did not need that jaw shave whatsoever. Her face is no longer balanced as it was in this photo.

It feels like she's missing the lower half of her face, while she was so pretty and natural looking before the surgery. She's pretty now, as well, but her chin and jaw look so weak. I can't believe anyone would tell her that she needs one. I wonder if she had a jaw shave and chin filler, or just a jaw shave. 

Exactly my point. I can't understand why anyone would tell her she isn't already gorgeous and perfect.  Which is why I find this Jaw shave thing to be an sm obsession,  like they so often do it unnecessarily...

If they think this is the only way to be considered a 'visial',  then they should consider it girls like tzuyu, jennie, nana, apink naeun, who have a more squarish jawline. In fact, I think more of the popular visuals have a more rounded or square face? But its really about what looks most natural with your features. 

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21 hours ago, purupurin said:

vivi was often shaded for looking ''too plastic'' but she's been looking really great these days imo

her face used to look really tight and bloated during so what era it was painful to see. somehow she looks younger and more expressive now.

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She looks so sweet here! 

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24 minutes ago, KentasGlittery EyeMakeup said:

After a bad initial nose job, horrible styling, bad hair colors/hair styles and eyebrows, excessive and unnecessary fillers in all the wrong places, JooE is thriving! Finally! With all my heart, I hope knetizens are kind to her and don't comment too much about it, they've already bullied her enough about her looks, when all she does is work hard, sound good and spread happiness. They need to stick with dark hair for her, she slays it so much. She looks so confident and happy. 

She looks amazing<3 Specially glad they could fix the initial nose job.

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On 11/21/2020 at 8:07 AM, Nctyleggo said:

Onto AESPA’s Visual, Winter.

Upon searching for her predebut (and pre ps, of course) pictures, I was stunned by this girl’s natural beauty. It isn’t far-fetched to assume that SM planned for her to be their next Original Visual from early on. I also think she might actually be the one with the least procedures in her group. This doesn’t mean that she’s been left untouched whatsoever, and she most certainly doesn’t seem to have escaped the KpopCombo.

NOSE

 

BEFORE

AFTER

Sorry to break it to you, but this isn’t yet another case of a child growing into her face and getting drastically new features by the magical effects of late-onset puberty. Winter got a completely new nose, and did so with the help of a rhinoplasty (which I suspect might have been performed twice to get her to the state where she is today, but I’ll discard it due to lack of proof). Her before nose was rather flat, low bridged, with a moderately bulbous tip that pointed downwards and flared-out alars. She’s had an alarplasty that brought them back in and gave her those dainty, although a bit disturbingly sharp looking nostrils. The tip has been shaved down and raised upwards, and an implant of some sort has been inserted to get her bridge to its current height and shape. I also suspect she’s had the sides of her previously wide bridge scraped off just a bit, but I’ll have to see more of her to form an opinion.

 

EYES

BEFORE

 

Winter’s eyes have always been large and horizontally long. She had, however, uneven eyelids, which she may have fixed through what seems to have been a poorly done upper blepharoplasty. SM seems to be into tear glands exposure lately, because they had her undergo an epicanthoplasty to give her gaze a “clearer” look (her inner eye corners are obviously cut)

 

EYEBROWS

If you compare the before and after fotos, Winter has very clearly done some snip snip shit to her eyebrows. They sit at an almost unnatural height, and they are much more raised than they originally were. If we add in her prior blepharoplasty, the distance between her eyes and  brows would appear slightly decreased,if anything. These, appart from an obvious reshaping, are tell-tale signs for a browlift.

 

LOWER FACE HALF CONTOURING WITH THE HELP OF FILLERS.

Her jaw seems to be untouched (heavens be praised), but she might have indeed had the help of fillers to give her a slightly more defined chin, which was a bit blunt and short before, adding to her softer and natural V line. The rest is most likely loss of baby fat.

 

Welp, that’s it for today. Feel free to discuss and point out where I might be tripping. I’ll be analysing some NCT members after I’m done with NingNing. Peace.

 

 

 

 

 

Previously her eyes had a more round shape, now its more stretched out. This could be the work of make up. Tho her eyes seem wider to me, even in the non photoshoot pics (stage screenshots)

I'd suspect she cut her inner eye corners.

Also about her brows, it already seemed really high up in the before pictures. 

Edited November 22, 2020 by StanSatan

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3 hours ago, Nctyleggo said:

 

Her inner eye corners are obviously cut... different shape, longer, more tear gland more exposure...

Yup, I’m dubious about her brows now...

And seeing her now onstage without too much ps makes me 100% sure about that agressive nosejob. Like, girl is super pretty, but you can tell her nose isn‘t natural by any means (I mean the finish of it. Something about it looks off. I think it is the alars).

I actually like her nose job because it doesn't look too thin.  I usually see noses being too thinned out in kpop. But yes I can understand which part seems off to you.  The alars seem uneven at times. But I kinda dig flaws lol 

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Come to think of it, jooey low-key resembles sunmi now.  

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1 hour ago, KentasGlittery EyeMakeup said:

Not even Sunmi resembles Sunmi. But I think, most of the stuff she did before Gashina was good, afterwards she overdid the fillers, but she's still so beautiful.

Well I mean the the enhanced sunmi lol. So think they got similar procedures done. But I do think sunmi resembles herself without the bangs: