Official Plastic Surgery Thread

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Okay so I have been wanting to know once and for all what this girl really has gotten done. There are only two possibilities: nose or eyes

 

The thing with Sunny is that no one really agrees on what she got. Some
people say her nose or just her eyes. I being just one person am not sure based
on inconsistencies with her selcas (which I base most of my deductive reasoning
from).

Predebut nose:

 

 

 

Current:

 

to me (I could be wrong) all these noses look like this one

Eyes:

Her eyes are kinda funny...there is a picture of her eyes that we all know
which is this one

 

but there are pictures of her eyes where her eyes aren't so...idk

Now I saw a pic of Sunny when she closed her eyes and sometimes she will have a crease line

but other times it won't be there at all

 

so really I don't know what she got done to her eyes since sometimes its hard to determine where her crease is.

 

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It's impossible to say what Sunny had because different angles show different things. I DO believe she had double eyelid surgery though because of her makeup less face photos but I'm not sure about anything else. It could be a sticker though, Asia has different ways of getting double eyelids: Surgery, makeup and stickers.

 

  i think if she got anything it would be her eyes, but predebut she did show "double eyelids" ( ), so it hard to say if she puts tape, eyelash fibers, glue or whatever to make the crease look different everytime. Remember IY when she showed her no makeup face and we saw this

(look at the upper right hand side)

 

then in 2011 we saw her "no makeup" face with no double eyelids in sight

Edited September 18, 2013 by Monotrack20

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Your Leonardo Dicaprio example is the perfect example of why many idols get jaw shaving. Some are harder to identify but if you look closely and it at different angles. Your example proves my point perfectly. Your jaw will get squarer and broader as you age, it will not magically turn into a v-line and get smaller and slimmer. Also your nose will always get bigger and flatter, not small and more up-right.

 

To sum up my answer. Your features always get broader, sharper and more angular as you age and not smaller, slimmer, and up-right. Most of the time you cannot blame "puberty" as an excuse for why an idol did not get ps.

  I think that has more to do with the condition of your skin as you age. For Leo his jaw didn't get bigger he has looser skin, so it hangs down making it look bigger

 

This clip shows a women whose nose an jaw didn't change, but as she aged and her skin wasn't as tight as she was when she was younger hung down making her face look bigger

 

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Women and men age slightly differently. Leo's jaw definitely matured/became more square. It's not just his skin... lol.

 

  i beg to differ, this man's jaw has stayed the same for 12 years, the only difference was that as he aged he gained weight thus his face appeared wider. 

 

Leo has always had a square jaw

 

he just gained weight and now the weight makes his skin sag a little

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I would say she did get double eyelid surgery. I wouldn't suggest using tape daily or regularly because it could result in your lids sagging and a hassle to fix (though surgery). Surgery would be the most logical choice. It might be loss of fat/water in the lids but very unlikely and water retention is so unreliable because you never know when your lids will flip out on you :/.

 

I would say that the reason why her lids aren't showing is because of lighting, makeup, and photo quality. Unless light is hitting her face 'directly', the top part of her lids will be emphasized more. I can still tell that she has a lower lid and not a monolid with crazy amount of eyeliner in all the photos except one in your examples

 

As for her nose, it looks like she made it higher and sharpened her tip (I'll try to find pictures later for comparison). I like how with SM plastic surgery, they keep some of the characteristics of your original nose or feature.

interesting go one...this could be fun

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Of course not everyone is the same and there will be exceptions, but I personally know people that have more square jaws now than they did when they were younger...

 

It's not really something that can be argued imo. Hormones and puberty are going to change your face. ;;;;;

 

As for Leo... his face got fuller as he got older and again, I really don't think it's just his skin.

 

 

  i am sorry I don't see the difference in pics except that the later pic his face is fuller but not nearly as tight looking. His face looks aged hense why i don't think its "maturity" its weight gain. I could be wrong but I don't think people's faces mature after the age of 25 when they should have stopped growing.

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Exactly. He was 22 during the Titanic. I was comparing from the Titanic to more recent pictures~

  like this one

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thought this might be education

 

 

start from 2:33

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Anyone here got stuff done? Please tell me what you think about my nose job and injections lol

 

Before

 

 

After

 

 

 it looks cute, not to mention very natural

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I know Jessica had braces before her debut, and wore retainers throughout her debut and still wears retainers. Braces and retainers can cause the position of your jaw to shift and reset. However, if she did get her jaw shaven it doesn't really bother me because she doesn't look drastically different. However, I don't believe she got her jaw position changed via surgery, that happened with the braces because her teeth were so mucked up the position and evenness of her jaw was bound to change with braces. The same thing happened to my sister and best friend.

 

My sister used to have a really jutting out jaw and it was uneven, but ever since she got her braces, her jaw changed position and is now even.

     To be honest I would agree if photos like these never came out. This doesn't look weight gain because its only her face (notice her neck is still slim), it looks like post surgical swelling

 

I don't think braces are supposed to change your jawline unless you had some intensive dental surgery. Braces deal with your teeth which isn't the same as changing the shape of your mandible (jaw bone). I know someone who had braces in SK, her jawline didn't change...the most that happens is her face looked slimmer because of weight lose (your practically on a diet when you have braces). But this is just my opinion on the matter.

 

Jessica jaw surgery is best seen from her profile not a frontal view.

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In Sooyoung's case, is it only the miracle of braces? or some PS? what do you think?

 

before

 

 

 

 

 

after

 

 

 

 

  braces don't in normal cases shift your jaw line. In fact most people lose weight after braces so thier jaw may appear slimmer. However I think Sooyoung has done some reduction to her jaw line. Her jaw surgery is weird because while it is obvious its gotten slimmer, she has the same thing as Hyoyeon where they get that bloated inflated airballon look once in a while

 

 

 

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Does anyone else freak out when they see this pic

 

her face looks swollen as heck like she got some botox or something....or is it just me

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Seohyun easily gains weight and it especially shows on her face. When TTS were promoting she was really skinny and her face was slimmer.

But, she definitely did something to her face since IGAB. Her face is so weird recently.

 

As for Sooyoung, I don't understand people who deny the fact that she did PS. During Hoot, her face was so weird, especially her jaw. She looked uncomfortable whenever she smiled. I remember someone saying that all the girls did something before their Japanese debut which could be true, as I remember thinking that Tiffany and Sooyoung looked really weird in the Gee music video.

 

 

 

 

 

 

   i guess its hard becaue Sooyoung face can look really large and then other times very slim

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Seohyun's face has been interesting me a lot lately. We know for one she's known to be natural

 

 

Yet her face has definitely seemed strangely chubbier since IGAB:

 

 

 

Most of 2012 her face was pretty slim:

 

 

buuuuut. she was A LOT skinnier during those days too:

 

 

 

And her face has been similarly chubby in the past before. During Gee, then again Oh, Run Devil Run, Cabi era.

 

 

 

 

And, even now, her face goes up and down almost daily. There's too little consistency, plus the fact she's photographed nearly ever 2 days, to seriously consider she's had something done. Case in point, all recent pictures:

 

some days puffy 

 

  

 

then some days her face is tiny again

 

  

 

 

i could add a million more recent ones to both since it really does vary every day. she said recently she hardly sleeps anymore or gets to eat regularly, and if you consider her schedule it's no surprise. i think her face gets the brunt of the stress.

 

consider the jakarta concert a few days ago where she looked totally fine, and her presscon today where her face was worn, breaking out, and bloated. the only thing in between was round-the-clock drama filming on top of a bunch of other schedules. 

 

 

 

 

then there's this:

 

 

 

conclusion?

 

it's hard to tell and i don't rule out anything, but i doubt it. if i have to look that hard and there's a number of reasonable explanations, then i give her the benefit of the doubt. knowing what i know about her strictness with herself (wouldn't even pierce her ears until this year), how protective she is of her "correct" image, and how insecure she is about looking chubby in the face, it doesn't make sense she'd do it on purpose. the last thing she would go for are her cheeks especially. on a good day where she's rested she still looks exactly like she always has. either way, ps/botox or not, she still looks like a carbon copy of her childhood self which is more than i can say even for most natural people.

  you make a good point

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Warning! Some very graphic stuff here. Since we're all mature here I decided to post this. (I love talking about this because I know something about how anatomy and physiology of our body works.)

 

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1z84WECoec

 

 

 

Now with Seohyun, 

 

 

 

In the 2013, Seohyun's eyelids became more prominent thru blepharoplasty. You can still get double eyelid surgery even if you already have one to achieve a more prominent double eyelid. I'm not saying she god blepharoplasty but she could have or it's because of botox. There is no way that your face gets bloated and not your whole body. This happens a lot to Hollywood stars too, check out there photos. SM should stop giving the girls botox. On the long run they're faces is gonna sag and it wont look good once they stop. 

 

Some examples: 

 

 

 

 

 

But we have to ask ourselves if they really are real photos or fakes one. 

 

 

Fake

 

Real

  you think that is Sooyoung problem when her face get bloated and then slim at other times

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Another funny SNSD Occurance..look at this

  her right eye and her crease...straight up glue....but then her left eye same situation........then what is this no glue...can anyone help me out on this one

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Uhhh....Tape? BEG Gain's Eyeliner kit?

 for the last gif?....what is this eyeliner kit

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You can only bloat in your face just like you can only bloat in your stomach. It's caused by a lot of different things, birth control, antibiotics, or water retention. Also, it's possible that she in fact does bloat in other areas of her body yet we can't tell. Another thing is that botox is only injected a few times year, while Seohyun's face swells and slims very very often. It is possible the girls are getting botox, but I don't think that's necessarily the cause of Seohyun's face swelling. Botox can also be used to round out your jawline a bit, so that may be one reason to get it, if the girls are getting it. I don't know about the blephantanosplasty thing, that's a good guess. I don't know what to make of this photo, whether it confirms any eye surgery or not.

 

   looks like makeup

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Seohyun's didn't do anything to her eyes but I do think she wears eyelid tape lately though, which is why they've been looking more significant on occasion. The reason it can't be surgery is because there's occasions her fold goes back to normal.

 

This is her natural fold, for reference. She's always had a deep crease:

 

 

 

 

Once again, recent pics in consecutive order:

 

With tape, a higher fold:

 

 

Then afterwards without (her lower natural fold):

 

 

 

 

 

Then again, a higher fold. Except this time it's so obvious it's tape just from the weird shape.

 

 

 

But without makeup or tape, fold is back to normal:

 

 

 

She didn't get her eyes done.

   you think its makeup throws people off? But I did notice that lots of idols (SNSD) look different when they are truly not wearing makeup.

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I could dig for closed eyed pictures of the same events if I had nothing better to do, but one, the top makeup artists in the world are not going to leave residuals, and two, I think the point I made is pretty clear. You don't go back and forth from having a high to low to high crease over and over all year like Seohyun's case if there was a surgical procedure involved. They would just stay one way.  

 

In any case, 2002 vs. 2013, same face. 

 

    is there a difference in the noses or am i seeing things

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can we just move on and talk about someone else? 

 

I thought Suho was natural, but  supposedly he had something done to the bridge of his nose.

What do you guys think natural or not natural?

 

 

 

 

 

 

hmm it looks like they slimmed his tip, I can't tell from that predebut photo what his bridge really looked like but what I see

 

looks like they just did the tip of the nose since it looked his nose the bridge started at his eyes predebut and is still there, it may look different because the tip of his nose has changed

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seriously? When was she ever chubby enough to get a liposuction?!

  her armpits I think is the rumor

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she just got carboxy shots not lipo 

 

 

What's wrong with Taemin's face? too much botox?

  that is just makeup but his "enhanced" nose +plus his feminine makeup make him looks so unreal

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Never heard a jaw shaving rumor, or anything about her legs. Sulli's was the first I've ever heard.

 

 

 

  its from the kpopplasticsurgery tumblr has luna undergoing some leg procedure to make her muscular legs look slimmer

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Oh okay I do remember Luna getting her leg muscle removed.

 

EDIT: when i first saw those taemin photos i had the same reaction lmao it kinda scared me. but he was at the airport that very same day and looked normal so

 

...I wish he never touched his nose