Official Plastic Surgery Thread

[Owlet]

9 hours ago, Nottasushi. said:

Nayeon needs to sue her new surgeon. It was fine before, why..

Speaking of her; i noticed on one of her latest instagram selfies that she got some type of... skin-colored band-aid on her nose? I'm not sure that's what it is tho. It just looked a little bit sus to me but it could just be that she's trying to hide a scratch or something like that.

Also first time seeing those veins/marks on her forehead, it's probably nothing though

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Edited August 13, 2020 by Owlet

[Owlet]

6 hours ago, babysnowflake said:

Wendy looks very pretty, maybe a slight difference with her nose? but she looks pretty and healthy!!

I think she looks a little bit swollen here but that's probably due to her having surgery on her broken cheekbone/medication which can make you swell up sometimes from my experience, or just a slight weight gain probably.

Whatever she might've done, I'm just glad she's healthy again, god knows how much pain she must've been in for a while. 

[Owlet]

4 hours ago, jngshlm said:

I really dont trust Yeri's picturea on insta because its heavily filtered. When you watch her in motion or videos you'd know that she doesnt look that far from her predebut face. I think the most obvious is her lips.3

That's actually a screenshot taken from a video she posted on her story, was about to post it here cause I was so taken aback by it. But I agree that she heavily edits her photos on insta.

[Owlet]

18 minutes ago, todoripril said:

Nayeon nose looks fake sometimes like it's too small i can't believe someone can have a nose like that naturally 

That's the thing, I doubt it's natural tbh. I think it was discussed here a while ago but I'm pretty sure her nose bridge isn't natural since, if i recall correctly, she used to have a bump there. Not sure about the tip though.

 

Although I don't really know if this is related in anyway to any potential rhinoplasty she might've done, but she can somehow "wink" (?) with her nostrils. I'm not sure if this is something that even people who've never went under the knife can do or what but it's a pretty cool ability to have either way lol.

 

[Owlet]

1 hour ago, wap said:

Pick one idol who you guys think is "natural"

Maybe NCT's mark? or Jisung? I can't see any difference between their older pictures and how they currently look unlike most members, but you never know. 

I was also about to mention Seulgi but I think she might've played with fillers/botox a few years ago but I'm not so certain about that...

[Owlet]

23 minutes ago, UrmiUndone said:

Jisung nose is suspect.

Possibly Mark has double eyelid surgery as well so only Amber At this point I believe .

Yeah I agree that amber is most likely all natural. I can see why Jisung's nose could be sus, however, I never really questionned mark's eyes, but I'm usually sus of double eyelids since it's one of those simpler procedures that can give a very natural result if done right so you could be right on that as well.

I was also gonna say sulli but I could've sworn people were speculating about her getting a boobjob at some point but I'm not sure, I usually focus on the face more.

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[Owlet]

2 hours ago, fullofjoy said:

Where member in Itzy got something done? 

I remember seeing a couple people online suspecting that chaeryeong might've gotten something done (most likely eyes and/or nose) but I can't say for sure.

I really can't tell if she got something done to her nose or not since it looks natural and any differences could simply be due to puberty but I'm pretty convinced that she did get double eyelid surgery, she had monolids up until after SIXTEEN I'd say and now she's got an "in-line" type of double eyelids where you only see a little bit of the "double lid" near the outer corner of the eye, which looks super natural in my opinion.

(Chaeryeong on the left/Chaeyeon (IZ*ONE) on the right)

 

After

 

Sometimes her nose looks similar to her predebut nose (pic below) and sometimes it looks much slimmer but still not too thin.

Either way, if she really did get ps, it was really well done and subtle imo.

 

[Owlet]

34 minutes ago, tgog said:

Hi, I'm making my very first comment to ask what Doyoung might've gotten done on his eyes? Pre-debut they were looked smaller, SMRookies they were unnaturally large, but right now they look smaller and continue have the distinctive shape that makes him resemble a bunny. 

 

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I really can't exactly tell what he did specifically but it looks like they cut the outer and/or the inner corner of the eye (Lateral canthoplasty) but I'm not certain about that.

I'm saying that because his before and after kind of reminds me of this example:

I just realized that I never payed much attention to his eyes because the work he got on his jaw is so drastic it's always the first thing that I notice whenever I see his predebut pics lol

[Owlet]

48 minutes ago, StanSatan said:

I feel like its makeup that makes it look slimmer, bc in that one after pic, her nose looks the same as before

Yeah I agree; it's probably just some simple nose contouring.

I also hope she doesn't ever feel the need to get that stereotypical tall, slim and "pinched" nose that a lot of idols seem to have gotten, especially since she's constantly getting shit for her looks.

Her current nose looks so good on her and really suits her face.

[Owlet]

1 hour ago, Maurizio Sarri said:

okay guys, who are they

They...look REALLY different compared to how they looked in their individual videos or am I tripping? Especially Karina..

Might've been the eye makeup they did on those previous videos but damn, what a difference.

[Owlet]

At least they look a bit more "human" and less like their virtual counterparts here... damn, they really didn't hold back on the editing before this teaser came out.

I also like Giselle and NingNing a lot more like this.

[Owlet]

3 minutes ago, Maurizio Sarri said:

I find Giselle to be the prettiest, just saw their tik tok videos, she looks the most natural to me too

I'm honestly relieved that they look better (to me) without all the heavy photoshop and makeup, was kinda nervous about them getting THAT much ps at such a young age and right at the start of their career.

I find Winter and Karina beautiful but they're the most shocking to me considering how different they made them look in their previous teasers.

Giselle and NingNing man.. SM did them dirty with the concept photos/videos, they're so much prettier like this..

[Owlet]

1 hour ago, Nctyleggo said:

As for the AESPA members, after taking a look at their predebut photos and less retouched recent photos:

Onto the group’s main rapper.

Giselle:

EYES

Before

After.

I know it’s airbrushed into oblivion, and she’s wearing makeup, but pay attention to her eyes. They’re much larger, with more sclerar show on both sides. This is the result of a lateral canthoplasty, that allowed a bigger portion of the whites to be exposed, thus resulting into a longer, more open gaze. Then look at her tear glans. The skin that was covering them was cut and retired, and they are now exposed. She had an epicanthoplasty. 
I’m not entirely sold on a double eyelid surgery, because, well, she doesn’t have ‘em, but rather a small hood she appears to always have had.

NOSE

(I belive she may have worn tape here)

 

Before

 

After

I’m about 101% percent convinced she had typoplasty. Her nosetip was much more bulbous before, and it was sagging downwards. It’s been refined into a “cleaner”, pointier shape. As for her nose bridge, it’s never been particularly low, so, if anything, it has been enhanced with the help of fillers. The campture from her teaser makes me think some sort of implant has been introduced, wich has then become warped, but I’d have to see more of her from different angles.

 

JAW
Aeri’s had some sort of procedure done to her jaw. I think that, compared to what we’re used to seeing in Kpop, it has a reasonably natural and not overdone finish. Her jaw bone seemed to sit lower and had some protruding angularity, as well as a more squarish shape. While it hasn’t aquired a drastic “V” shape, it is indeed softer, higher, seemingly longer and doesn’t jut out anymore. 
Now, hear me out, I’m 90% sold on a jaw shave. The other 10% goes to an otherwise 100% likely botox injection into the masseter muscle. Could be the angle or editing, or her hair narrowing down her overall face shape as well as a skillfully taken selca, who knows.

 

SKIN

Whilst not IU level of white, she seems to be much fairer, which might be the result of skin whitening injections.

 

Welp, that’s it. Feel free to discuss. I’ll be doing the next members as I feel bored troughout the day. Peace.

 

I think this is pretty much spot on and accurate. I had some doubts about her eyes but now I'm convinced because of that first predebut picture.

[Owlet]

I know STAYC has been getting a lot of praise for their looks (and rightfully so because they're all very pretty) but I've been wondering about Yoon, she looks very much like a human sized porcelaine doll but I feel like she might've gotten her eyes done. I'm thinking of a lateral canthoplasty and maybe a good old double eyelid cut. I'm also suspicious of her nose but I feel like there's a good chance it's natural.

It's hard to tell because there are only very few (blurry) predebut pictures of her so I'm kinda waiting for more to come out

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AFTER

I'm not against people getting plastic surgery if they feel like they need it but I'm kinda hoping I'm wrong here because she's only 16...

[Owlet]

47 minutes ago, Nctyleggo said:

At first sight: double eyelid surgery, possible lateral canthoplasty for a more open look, obvious rhinoplasty where every boulbous remnant of the nose has been shaven down and the tip has been upraised, and i’m suspecting it’s either implants of fillers regarding her newly high and thin nosebridge. Her jaw looks sus indeed, but until I see more pictures, imma go for masseter botox injections since I kinda refuse to believe a literal child has been made to undergo such an invasive, painful procedure, and the after doesn’t look too drastic. 
I legit thought she was half white at first.

For real I also thought she was half white (and half japanese) at first!

And yeah I agree with what you said about the work she's possibly had done and I'm also hoping for more predebut pics to come out because I'm kinda mind blown and concerned at the possibility that she may have gone through those invasive surgeries at an even younger age than she is now...

This might be a bit messed up of me to say but I'm really curious of how people who've had all these surgeries end up looking like when they're much older. I feel like people like Jaehyun (NCT) who had such a drastic jaw shave have it the worst since (I'm assuming) it requires a lot of maintenance.

EDIT2:

Yo my bad, that's actually Seeun in the predebut picture, not Isa lol. I was so confused by it since someone labelled it as Isa even though it didn't look like her.

In Seeun's case I really can't tell what she might've gotten.. Maybe some work done on her eyes? They look natural though. Same with Yoon's case, her nose looks a bit altered to me but I'm not sure.

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[Owlet]

24 minutes ago, lighterxx said:

I spoke too early lol found bunch of pics as soon as I talked

Her eyes are natural

Nose I'm not sure, but seems natural from.even older pics?

(Check the whole thread!!)

 

From this thread, now I feel like she's naturally born with double lids but they're somehow more defined now? Also her inner/outer eye corners look much bigger/more open.

Closed eyelid

 

Edited November 18, 2020 by Owlet

[Owlet]

4 hours ago, pjihoon said:

made an account to say that i hope the treasure members won’t get anything done, especially since most of them are underage. 

haruto and jeongwoo have great hook noses. i’ll be so mad if they ever get rid of the bump

I mean, Renjun had a slight bump on his nose and now 4 years after his debut it's straighter than ever..

I'd also be kinda sad if they feel pressured to get the typical straight nose bridge most idols have because their natural noses are so charming and rare to find in this industry.

[Owlet]

3 hours ago, Maurizio Sarri said:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CH-TzOlAb9i/?igshid=idqs42p7sd3g
 

all right, she’d overdone her boobs in photoshop, right? 
 

Not to mention her lips🥲

I was gonna post that here too! I was kinda taken aback by her chest size in this picture ngl but I'm thinking that it could be either:

- that's an optical illusion from the top itself, like it just makes it look like you have a bigger chest (I'm saying that cause I have a similar top and it does that with me), that and maybe she's wearing a padded bra that just added onto that.

- that she's photoshopped her chest to be bigger which I would definitely not be surprised if she actually did...

 

 Actually, I feel like her face looks a little bit off in this picture? like it looks like CGI or something. I feel like it looks too... smooth(?) in places where it doesn't really have to be. Or maybe the colors on her face look a bit out of place?

[Owlet]

1 hour ago, hshlhb said:

any thoughts on the verivery members? I really hope jellyfish doesn't touch kangmin's face in the future  he's so young and is already very charming 

this is minchan btw 

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i do think all of the members look really good tho

Something with his eyes I think, they look a bit more "open" now. Also I feel like there's something going on on his chin? I'm not sure though...

but I think he's always had a charm to him even back then.

[Owlet]

1 hour ago, Nctyleggo said:

99% of successful and public-exposed idol have had at least minor tweaks. Most of the features many of them portray are actually quite rare in Koreans, so ps is the only way to go.

Something most K-pop stans always seem to forget/pretend it's not true and are very defensive and in denial about lol

I never understood how they so passionately try to convince others that their precious faves are all natural beauties/ god's favorites and are too good for plastic surgery and then say that there's nothing wrong with getting ps in the same breath

[Owlet]

9 hours ago, wap said:

I pray Hendery does not fall under the hands of dr kim..we all know SM wont leave his nose untouched. His nose is not big but for idol standards they will tell him to get a nose job or something. SM will never let people be great smh 

In my opinion, out of anyone in this industry , I'd say he's the last person that should get anything done.

SM would actually want to purposely fuck him up if they ever decide to give him a nose job or anything else major for that matter.

Also, I feel like if they haven't touched Kun's nose then they probably won't mess with Hendery's either... Hopefully...

[Owlet]

5 hours ago, Lolly21 said:

Guys, please check her out. I love her content. She did a video on Blackpink's Lisa:

I loved that video. Very informative, respectful and most likely accurate I'd say.

I really hope she starts doing analyses on other K-pop Idols but seeing how a lot of Blinks/solo Lisa stans reacted to her video, I doubt she will...

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[Owlet]

23 hours ago, chanyeolears said:

 

I've only noticed that now but what's up with that strange dashed line that's above her double lid?

I've never seen that on anyone before so I doubt it's just a simple crease, it follows her actual eye shape so to me it looks a bit too "man-made" to be natural.

[Owlet]

1 hour ago, lighterxx said:

btw i saw someone respond thinking reaction to HD fied pictures thing. Basically some apps, have an AI based system where is tries to make low quality pictures HD. Its usually easy to spot like for Winter's case, her side face is weirdly distorted due to that, you can see it from her lashes. 

To give example, it assumes features, like here, programme assumed Mingyu to be monolid, when infact he is not

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I gave him as an example since he is one of the idols that has a natural very deep double eyelids

I'm the one who did the haha, I would've never thought that these types of programmes could do that so thank you for explaining it!!

1 hour ago, lighterxx said:

why does some members of enyphen seems to have nose job o.o it looks so unnatural, i watched the mv and i think jake? and one of them too (first one appeared i think), those two have such weirdly shaped and unfitting to their face noses, i cant help but notice it rip maybe they are natural but i feel like they had some fillers there, as shape is really off compared to face size at certain angles. is there anyone who has opinion about this?

I don't really know the members very well and I've only looked at a few of Jay and Jake's predebut pictures, but I think you might be onto something when it comes to them possibly messing with their noses.

Jake has quite a few predebut pictures but they're either: predebut but not necessarily pre-surgery or from when he was a kid so I can't exactly tell what he might've done, but I'm glad I found pictures of jay doing the same facial expression in the before and after so the changes are a bit more obvious with him.

JAKE

BEFORE:

AFTER:

 

JAY

BEFORE:

AFTER:

[Owlet]

52 minutes ago, lighterxx said:

No problem!! Feel free to ask too, if I didn't checked past page I wouldn't even see it rip  

Jake seems natural, I was talking about another member but wow Jay looked nothing like his current look?? Which is surprising for me because he is considered Jun alike, and Jun barely changed at all

I feel like he had fillers or maybe implant for chin looking here?? And even jaw shave perhaps? I did not expect that considering he looks fairly natural o.o maybe I thought that because Jun is natural rip

I was talking about Heeseung btw, I googled and found about him!! I'm pretty sure he relies heavily on fillers and maybe nosejob (I need more predebut pics) 

Current:

Predebut:

(I hope these are all him btw) 

Currently his nose is overly perky, I suspect fillers at tip, and fillers at chin 

He is too young to overly rely on fillers rip, its a shame

Oh yeah he does look like jun! was wondering who he was reminding of lol.

But yeah I highly doubt Heeseung didn't make alterations to his nose, whatever they were (most likely fillers but who knows, could be an implant too). And it might just be me but I feel like his nose looks different in every picture.

Also, I think jay's eyelids got somehow smaller over the years? Like I know that can happen as you get older but the difference between the before and after pictures just looked a bit odd to me..