Official Plastic Surgery Thread

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I noticed that too, not only in the teasers but also in some fansite pictures from that performance they did a few days after they came back from Los Angeles but i'm still confused... who did you have in mind?

 

 

does you guys think any members of seventeen had something done? In the recent teasers a few members look different but i don't know what

 

 

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make up and photoshop

 

they airbrished hoshi's mouth corners

 

rest of the pics look fine at least...

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eunwoo from pristin had a nosejob right? I'm watching their MV right now and her nose is so distracting. it's so PINCHED looking

Check mansae, it has the most recent predebut look of hers

 

just look at girlies at 1:57

 

 

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They are possible but i think they will be thin. I believe Liu Yifei's eyelids aren't natural but Mingyu's are most likely to be natural.

Natural AND its possible^^

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On 2/6/2020 at 9:49 AM, AiringArt said:

 

Oh, that looks like he got filler in his chin. He had a square-ish chin before and now it looks very oval.

A lot of boys with square jaws do this, I guess it's a trend. Seventeen's Hoshi has been getting fillers in his chin for years now, personally I'm not a fan, but looking at Seventeen's pre-debut videos and photos, it looks like he probably had some issues with his jaw or something.

Pre-debut:

 

After debut:

 

He did get fillers during one Japan magazine, but otherwise he doesnt get fillers for a long long time now. 

....and none of the pics you share are from that magazine rip

He yoyos alot however so i get misunderstanding, but no he only once got a ps, afterwards never seen him get another one

His chin when he loses weight

His chin when he gains weight (booseoksoon and callx3 era if you want to google)

Otherwise he said before he was almost refused to get signed by pledis for refusing PS and added last to line up. Its illogical for him to accept fillers yet refuse everything else. 

Not a defense, I know he did got fillers before, but it was only once, with an Anan photoshoot if you are curious

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23 minutes ago, AiringArt said:

Uhm, well I was watching the last IF videos, the couple game one, and it kind of looks like he still has fillers done. I mean his chin was oval and he doesn't have an oval chin. It could be some leftover effect from the last time he got the fillers, i'm pretty sure the effect lasts about 6 months. 

I also saw someone here speculating that he had done something to the inner corner of his eyes. But I personally can't see that. What do you think? I personally think he might get filler in the nose bridge sometimes, for concerts or other activities.

(I hope you know that I'm not attacking him or anything, I am actually pro-plastic surgery. And i don't think that discussing it is painting any idol in a negative way. I'm a big seventeen fan too, btw <3)

Nahh i did not thought you were insulting at all!! Dont worry its just Hoshi is sensitive about Plastic Surgery, similar to Wonwoo. Pledis requested him to get eye surgery yet with convincing ceo himself he managed to not have one. Even then he was one of the backburner members till mansae (only then they realized huh this dude does have stans)

Are you talking about how it looks pointy in IF video? If that is the case, i see no difference from his usual chin, his get really sharp the second he smiles, i know it sounds weird lol but here

Closed mouth

Open mouth

His get sharper in seconds in same video, it was always like this, only when he got fillers when he smiled his chin would just kind of not move. Thats where I understand when he gets filler now to be honest.

Greatest example is this for example:

Literally seconds apart, changes his whole chin

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On 3/1/2020 at 6:00 PM, AiringArt said:

Is someone here interested in discussing Seventeen ?

Hm Jeonghan and Minghao are most obvious ones for me. Seokmin had rhinoplasty due to broken nose as well, thats probably why you notice his nose, because it was not done as cosmetic job, he had breathing problems. Otherwise I am predebut stan and I dont see any difference between their faces then and now. 

I believe Joshua had a filler for his 1st Look photoshoot however, on his chin.

Otherwise they literally all look same as they were 16-17 to me 

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51 minutes ago, AiringArt said:

As I said in the super long post i wrote, i think Joshua had a nose job, it's way too pointy to be his natural nose. But it's hard to find pre debut photos of him. Haven't seen the 1st Look photoshoot yet. So i don't know.

Oh, didn't know Seokmin had a broken nose, anyway I think he took the occasion to correct his nose. It definitely isn't the same as it was before debut. That pointy nose wasn't there before. 

Joshua o.o? Really? His nose was always same, some fansites edit out his bump on nose tho, when zoomed in you can see his nose is very natural, very round too

Predebut: you can see bump as well

Most recent photos of his

If you zoom in second one, you will see there is still bump as well. 

About seokmin, yeah his nose was lopsided and blocked his breathing, he was fine talking but it created problems singing so during predebut he had a time where they fixed it. He told us about it back then as well. 

Edit: forgot to add, it is a long known talk that SVT is one of the more natural male idols, due to debuting very young and seen very young. Therefore, usually max they get is fillers, which i consider nothing compared some of the whole face changes lol that was also why they were called nicknamed wuite ugly things because people insulted them alot. 

On other hand I just remembered Seokmin has double eyelid surgery too, but otherwise minus fillers I can only pinpoint Seokmin, Jeonghan and Minghao. They are comparably natural for a bg group, which are famous for some of the most extreme chin surgeries, I guess its due to how almost all of them are streetcasted to start with. 

Edited March 5, 2020 by lighterxx

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1 minute ago, AiringArt said:

Even in this photos, doesn't it seem more straight recently ? Maybe it's just me, though! 

As for Seokmin I do believe that he needed it, but I also think he used that opportunity to get a better nose honestly. A lot of idols say they needed the surgery, but also get a rhinoplasty. who knows. 

Anyway I also consider seventeen the most natural boygroup out there! I mean out of 13 member the ps rate is quite low, which is great, they are way more relatable. The boy next door image definitely benefits them! Most boy groups definitely had more obvious ps. Especially SM groups, even older ones. Suju has quite a lot. But honestly I quite like what they had done, the results are good. Except Kyuhun, he ruined his eyes. Plus they are super honest about it, which is always a plus. 

Oh really DK had double eyelid? damn, it's quite subtle. Didn't Seungwan had it too? I saw some pre debut pics. I agree with the most obvious ones being Jeonghan, Seokmin and Minghao. But what about Jun? I can't make up my mind about his nose. 

Jun is extremely natural, literally same nose he has at 15 from what i see o.o besides he had a fandom since what? He was 3? It would definitely be widespread lol

Dk already had a crease, but he got a surgery to make it deeper and more obvious. I find it unnecessary but meh, his eyes,i just find idea of something sharp near my eye disturbing lmao

Seungkwan debuted at 16-17, and he had double eyelids during that time. His baby pics dont have that but yeah i saw people say its quite common for double eyelids to show themselves as you grow up, tho I am not Asian, i dont know how true it is

Here is his underage photo, i can see bit of crease in some childhood photos and from my knowledge everyone in his family has natural double eyelids.

 

About Joshua, he is very similar to his mom, and to be honest he is rich enough to get surgery far before any member, one of the reasons why Jeonghan's surgery was late i think. From what I see he gets chin fillers for this 2020, i didnt see in US concert but saw in japan calendar. Here is pics from highschool as well, you can see its type never changed, I dont think he got nose surgery at all. Not even fillers to there now that I think of. 

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46 minutes ago, AiringArt said:

So, was Jun like super famous or moderately famous lol ? (I only know he starred in some dramas and movies as a child)

I saw this pics of Jun, and it does look like his nose is the same, some people said he had slimmed down the tip, because now it looks less bulbous, but I don't think so. Now i'm wondering if he had those double eyelids made more deep? LOL I'm thinking too deeply about him  He's one of my bias after all ahah 

Nah i think there isnt any change, you are comparing him in childhood with him now with fansite edit and makeup. If there wasnt any change it would be weirder lol

His eyes get swollen easily btw lol the deep times are probably those bcs they come and go constantly lol

46 minutes ago, AiringArt said:

Wow, I've never saw those pre debut photos of Joshua. So, his family is rich?  you know a lot! So, who else has a rich family in Seventeen?? (I assume Jun)

I guess he could have gotten a nosejob before going to Korea if he wanted. OR it is his actual nose, well good for him. He was born a pretty boy, he was blessed lol

Tbh his nose looks exactly same as his childhood to me, I wish he didnt got fillers to his chin tho they look weird lol

Svt in general, unlike sm groups all from middle class families, except Hoshi and Joshua. Hoshi is from quite a poor family, when Joshua is from quite a rich one. If im not mistaken his uncle is journalist in one of the big newspapers in US? I think he didnt named the newspaper tho o.o 

Jun is from middle class family as well, but he did have a steady small fanbase from 3, since his first drama appearance, he is quite a cute baby

Also lol im hitting my 6th year with them now, if I dont know alot who will About seungkwan, not sure why, i never heard him talk about changing his looks etc only mentioned diet, maybe bcs he is Buddhist? 

Spoiler

 

But his sisters too are quite known and famous! One of them is reality show star, and other, last time I checked Seungkwan was jealous Kwill dropped her to home after they practiced together lol

 

Spoiler is very ot lol

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1 hour ago, AiringArt said:

That's interesting! How do you know they are mostly middle class? I could have swore Jun's family was rich because of his childhood acting career lol I guess not. Isn't his little bro a child actor too, right?

They are upper middle class, while Joshua is completely silver spoon lol i even remember him complaining his mom forcing her to drink expensive yucky teas bcs they are "healthy" lol

1 hour ago, AiringArt said:

I've been a fan for 3 years now ahah So Buddhist can't get ps or something? Mmm shouldn't it be the same for Christians? Like Joshua? I don't think he's that religious anymore though...

Buddhism more about accepting everything with love, minus sex changes, i rarely see Buddhist people get ps not gonna lie o.o

 

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33 minutes ago, AiringArt said:

Oh wow upper middle class, that makes sense. So the rest are normal/middle class.

It kind of reminds me of Suju, Seventeen in general reminds me of Suju a lot, the only difference is that there was more people with a very poor background in suju. Sadly. As for Buddhist people i think it probably depends on how religious they are, a lot of people say they are Christian/Buddhist or whatever but in reality they really don't attend mass or follow the 'rules'. 

 

Ah well you are right lol but for Buddhism, it think ps is not banned whatsoever, but instead since they are raised with loving everything mentality, they just dont care. I might be wrong tho who knows o.o

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10 hours ago, Solfa said:

Chungha wasn’t natural when she participated in PD101, but she had found a nice balance between super pretty and unique looking. Now she is starting to look like Park Bom, literally and figuratively:

Goddamnit Korea and their strict beauty standards it makes everyone feel inadequate if they do not tick the boxes of all ideal features

She gets fillers for a while now and im surprised only now people started discussing. Like her chin forehead lips... Most places have too much filler and looks very unnatural honestly

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21 hours ago, canis lupus said:

i was about to post in this thread too when i saw this thumbnail (but i forgot to, lol)

i think she's pretty much at Bom 2011 level now.... 

Forehead lips nose chin even cheeks and cheekbones... Way too many things at once and her eyes look very weird here?? Maybe its just me

 

Also rest of the photos of Joshua got released, no chin filler it seems o.o i appeared like that from video, but photos are very natural

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55 minutes ago, AiringArt said:

So, maybe it was photoshop? I mean we can't really trust official photoshoots...only videos at this point lol

The thing is it is seen as attractive feature? I saw people give pointy chin and.never remove it tbh, thats what confused me o.o

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2 hours ago, AiringArt said:

Yeah, I'm pretty sure in Korea having a pointy chin or as they call it a v-line jaw is considered attractive. I mean apparently telling someone they have a big head is an insult lol Because Koreans in general think they have big faces, and I guess they think having a v shape jawline will make the head look smaller? Honestly it's kind of true, some people have a bigger head ( I mean look at Dino) but I wouldn't say it's un-attractive.

Honest to god everyone looks like they have same head size to me 

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3 hours ago, Metrico said:

Dino is pretty natural and so undervalued for how handsome he is.

All of Seventeen are and are so much less fussed with compared to groups like NCT (sad but true). I think Dino gets fillers on his nose to fill in his bridge so it's less snub - he's gotten it done since Pretty U. He had it touched up (and super contoured) that one concert where he had his hair back and wore the leopard print shirt, it was pretty wedge-y but otherwise it seems to settle and he still has the same otter nose tip and nostrils lol. If it's a nose job it's one of the best in the whole business which is why DK's is actually kinda botched in how beaky and thin it turned out.

He got his eyelids done predebut it's subtle but between his nose and eyes he literally looked like an in-between Wonwu and Joshua 

Mnet released seungkwans predebut video and damn, he did have eyelid surgery, checked now its only double eyelid surgery he did but its very sad considering damn dude had it before too just not as deep

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This thread exists for me to eat my words i swear the god, i saw a boomboom era minghao today, from a press pic rather than fansite ( i will only check those in future i swear the god some fansites play tf out their features) 

And damn, his nose look exactly same, i think i agree with you guys about how he only had fillers

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Just now, AiringArt said:

Really? In some people it's pretty obvious, but I think it's more about proportions than just head size. For example Dino, he has a small body in comparison with his head, so it looks large even if it's normal size. 

He is quite short tho i think its normal 

I find his head fine tho, i dont know if its small or big but its a nice round pretty head o.o

Besides i think the underpining thing for them is weight, i saw alot of koreans complain about how they dont get weight on face like westerners do, do you have any comments about it too? Like personally i believe if you are too thin your head will look big

But Koreans i saw in comment sections say how their head looks big if they gain weight, rather than lose

I was thinking of that too, but could not really see which one is more logical, any idea?

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2 minutes ago, AiringArt said:

Oh, well, I was right ahah It is a bit sad, he always says he's ugly, swollen, fat...which he's not. I mean let's be honest there're more good looking guys in Seventeen but he's by no means ugly or fat. He's cute.

Svt as a whole is very good looming so i guess he is feeling self concious but god kwannie is one of the cutest and prettiest guys i ever saw

He might not be classically handsome as Mingyu, or beautiful like Jeonghan, but Seungkwan is so pretty it makes me sad to see him not notice it rip

Especially when he is not next to svt, i realize again and again how gorgeous he is tbh, svt buries each other alot in that department rip

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11 minutes ago, AiringArt said:

I think he stands out a lot, like his features are unique and memorable. He's not average at all, he's like the cute next door neighbour lol Yup, there's a lot of members so it's easy to get shadowed by the others. I'm glad he has a strong variety sense, some other members can't count on that to stand out. TT 

Sometimes I especially worry about Wonwoo, Jun and The8, they are introverts so I understand them 

Hoshi is introvert too but he loses himself easily i guess. At least all three have considerable fan size despite their quietness

Still seungkwan is such a sweetie, im sad he feels like this when fans literally make cooking competitions with his face as a theme bcs they think its cute enough to bite 

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1 minute ago, AiringArt said:

Oh, really? I would have sworn he was an extrovert! It's good they are handsome, good at dancing/performing(for Jun and The8).

Ahaha awww cooking competitions that's so cute.

It IS so cute they all serve coffee next to their signature seungkwan foods too and most of them have bear drawn at its bubbles its uctest thing i ever saw rio, 

And yep hoshi is very introverted actually but when i gets used to somewhere or he is excited he goes full on crazy lol

....i just realized its ps thread not svt one rip talked alot here ;-; you carats are not active anywhere outaide of here rip

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23 minutes ago, AiringArt said:

Awww, I'd love to see that. Doesn't Seungkwan hate coffee though? lol 

Wow, me and Hoshi have the same personality lol There's not many idols I relate to in terms of personality 

Oh, yes lol we are going off topic  I'm not really the type that comments a lot usually, I guess I only get exited about certain topics lol

Seungkwan hates ALL coffee he says while drinking americano and its one of the most tasteless coffees ever

Hoshi forces himself to be cheerful alot if he is stuck he just shouts AHHHHHHHHHH suddenly thats when you know he is trying to bring life to area lmao, check out dispatch main dancers vlive for it

Other than here i feel so alone every thread only acer comes and visits me once a while  °^°

Edited March 11, 2020 by lighterxx

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15 hours ago, AiringArt said:

Oh, man, as an Italian i can't conceive ever drinking Americano, like EVER.

Oh yes I saw that v live! He was a mess, Shownu was legit scared lol In a good way of course Meh, why aren't carats more active here? Are they all on Twitter or Discord?

Twitter tbh, everyone from carats hang out more at twitter rip and oh you are italian ;-; be careful i saw streets are so empty (in specific places ofc)

AND HERE I AM HERE TO EAT MY WORDS AGAIN, seungkwan naturally HAD double eyelids, he either a. Got nothing done b. Im hallucinating

Zoom in to eyes thats DEFINITELY there

 

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46 minutes ago, AiringArt said:

Yup, the whole country is under quarantine right now, plus in my region there's "only" 300 or so cases, for now it's not too bad. Still I'm not going out, of course.

Yes, it does look like he had little ones, but I'm still thinking he might have done something to deepen it. Doesn't it look more defined now? (this isn't the best photo probably)

Definitely does maybe he did deepen it ugh *shudders* sharp things next to eyes...

Maybe he is still using eyelid tape if he didnt have surgery o.o 

Last is, for some people weight makes your eyelids look different too similar to cheol, his get so vague when he gains weight, and very prominent to point of scary when he loses too much weight

But yeah i think seungkwan did do something to his eyes. He has double eyelids but they look like they are very different from each other, compared to now

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Just now, AiringArt said:

Ahaha, so you don't like contacts either, right? I wear contacts everyday lol 

Eyelid  tape is quite unlikely I think, I've only heard that Minghao used to use it (not sure though) but Seungkwan could have used some filters in that selfie! We need video proof lol 

I do think he did something, I agree.

Minghao? Hehe he was showing of his talent i remember, how if he wants he can give himself double eyelid on a whim, i remember that lol

OMO SAME why cant all videos be 4k HOW HELPFUL IT WOULD BE 

also yeah... Im so scared of using contacts, i can only use glasses, i will get laser in future but till then only glasses, contacts freak me out

Especially when they accidentally move its like you start looking at two different places o.o