DOOLY 33,373 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 This pann post was translated by @BTS0222. I just want to be clear upfront that I, too, am a BTS fan and I’m not translating this to throw shade on BTS fans, nor towards foreign fans. the reason behind my translation is that I want foreign fans to understand that sometimes, the way we behave toward BTS on Twitter and their other SNS (including the official fancafe) reflects poorly on us and creates a bad reputation among Korean fans. all I want to do is encourage fans to exercise discretion and good sense in their responses. so, with that said, here’s the PANN post I was asked to translate. PANN: Ah really, foreigner ARMY… Originally, I tried to view them nicely since they’re also ARMY, but as it is, I really hate seeing on YouTube the way they connect [bTS] with girl groups they’ve never had a connection with, and just among themselves say things like “ohh they’re so cute :’(†I also really don’t like seeing the way that they make sex jokes about the kids, to the extent that it makes me think it’s sexual harassment… I also really hate how they leave meaningless comments in response to their SNS updates, just because they want to be the first comment… Ahh…. could this be a cultural difference? Ha… in conclusion, let’s become pure BTS stansã… ã… ã… [+12, -1] Me too;; It seems like there are a lot of people who don’t bother to understand the situation and just think whatever they want about it. [+6, -0] Rather than being annoyed by the delusional fans, the sexual comments they make toward Jungkook are really severe… and those kinds of comments get more than 100 likes and the comments are all like ‘euhahah’ [+5, -0] Right?? Holy shit, I really agree with the one about SNS, every day it’s just “hey†“hi†fuck [+3, -0] I heard that some of them photoshopped a condom into that picture that Yoongi posted with the Tank Boy… when I heard that, I thought, wow, it’s really that serious… [+1, -0] Agree, totally agree, why are all the words I want to say right here… ha [+0, -0] Even so, I think it’s kinda cute how some of them even go to the dictionary so they can express their feelings [to BTS]… like ‘I oppa love’… But I seriously hate those types of fans. source: http://friedeggkingdom.tumblr.com/post/130464681121/i-just-want-to-be-clear-upfront-that-i-too-am-a ---- /// This isn't a thread to bash ARMYs. If you clicked here with the intention to leave comments like "BTS fans are trash" and other stuff like that you can kindly click out because that adds nothing to the discussion and i can't be bothered with stuff like that. I'm posting this here because i know stuff like this happen a lot on twitter, not only with BTS but a lot of other groups too, and it is indeed annoying and kinda disgusting when sexual comments are directed to underage idols. The OP talks about cultural difference but i don't it's because of that. It's just people being nasty and inconsiderate. I myself, as a foreign fan, find this stuff pretty annoying and stupid... I know this won't change anytime soon, which is sad... i just wish people would be more considerate about it. I know some people get overly excited sometimes and write in caps and all that stuff. I just wish they wouldn't do it under these idols posts and keep their 18+ comments either for themselves or post them in more appropriate places... and yeah, my rant is over. Feel free to discuss this... /// Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crescent 8,578 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Most of these sounds like average early teenagers that love to post about their favorite groups everywhere tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AYOSHIARI 10,391 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 [+12, -1] Me too;; It seems like there are a lot of people who don’t bother to understand the situation and just think whatever they want about it. really? what's the point of translating 12 upvotes tho? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evergreen 5,548 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 So even kfans know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonSone 30,138 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Yup, I can see that international ARMY is everywhere in Youtube. :P On topic, I hope people can tone down the sexual joke or do it in the other medium rather than the public one since there are many elementary school kids that like KPop too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bendtner 232 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 · Hidden Hidden This pann post was translated by @BTS0222. PANN: Ah really, foreigner ARMY… Originally, I tried to view them nicely since they’re also ARMY, but as it is, I really hate seeing on YouTube the way they connect [bTS] with girl groups they’ve never had a connection with, and just among themselves say things like “ohh they’re so cute :’(†I also really don’t like seeing the way that they make sex jokes about the kids, to the extent that it makes me think it’s sexual harassment… I also really hate how they leave meaningless comments in response to their SNS updates, just because they want to be the first comment… Ahh…. could this be a cultural difference? Ha… in conclusion, let’s become pure BTS stansã… ã… ã… Stay away from Irene you retarded fucking peasants Link to comment
Brittany 8,837 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 The sexual comments thing makes me embarrassed. I mean, it's okay to think that way, but keep it to yourselves and don't talk about them on public media. It makes me wonder what BTS would think of them should they ever come across them. With that being said, about the girl group thing, are they talking about shipping? I don't see anything wrong with it. It's pretty harmless, though k-fans are known to really hate that (there was this post on here one time about what k-fans thought of stupid i-fans, and making crack ships was one of their problems with us). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charmy 6,317 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 These are things i-fans also complain about :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOOLY 33,373 Posted October 4, 2015 Author Share Posted October 4, 2015 [+12, -1] Me too;; It seems like there are a lot of people who don’t bother to understand the situation and just think whatever they want about it. really? what's the point of translating 12 upvotes tho? It's not a popular pann post and it was not translated by a site like Pann Choa and co. The point of why it was translated it's in the OP... it's not hard to read tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviandrepepe 6,559 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I think i-army complain more about it tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebbula 4,051 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I'm glad that this has been addressed, the sexual remarks on SNS are basically because BTS are so active on twitter and fans feel the need to grab their attention or something. Some are just too young and overexcited, that's what we get when we have a fairly new fandom but regardless it's uncomfortable for anyone to read. I also saw a bunch of ARMY's on random videos just saying stuff like "the video mentioned dope, hahaha any bts fans here?"...those kinds of comments have no relation to the the actual video itself, making them unnecessary. They just need to tone it down and keep some of that shit to themselves, cause it's just like spamming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogwai 15,203 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 [+6, -0] Rather than being annoyed by the delusional fans, the sexual comments they make toward Jungkook are really severe… and those kinds of comments get more than 100 likes and the comments are all like ‘euhahah’ ngl they make me feel a little uncomfortable too... he's just a baby. but then i hope that the ones who leave those comments are his age and not... you know. the creepy sort. i'll be fine with stuff like "OH HE'S SO CUTEEE" because lbr kookie is cute but /: i just kinda hope they're not older [+0, -0] Even so, I think it’s kinda cute how some of them even go to the dictionary so they can express their feelings [to BTS]… like ‘I oppa love’… lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuuu 239 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Spoiled kids. You can't stop people from saying what they want....acting like they don't do it or even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOOLY 33,373 Posted October 4, 2015 Author Share Posted October 4, 2015 I think i-army complain more about it tbh I can see why, and i complain a lot about it too, since it's generally really annoying. But k-armys complain about it as much, you just can't see it because not everyone can read korean and people definitely aren't going to translate every comment of theirs... but they do and i saw fansites being angry about it and addressing the issue too multiple times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Hyoshin's vocal coach 4,019 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 What really irritates me is that alot of international armys comment on every youtube video about BTS or how it relates to BTS when the video has no correlation to BTS at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adda 9,200 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 someone enlighten me please, because I don't follow BTS. How foreign Armys express their thirstiness ? with sincerity? openly lustful thoughts, funny sexual jokes, like Kai’s fans do? Korean Armys probably envy them because they cannot speak openly about their fantasies :P Ha… in conclusion, let’s become pure BTS stansã… ã… ã… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogwai 15,203 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 someone enlighten me please, because I don't follow BTS. How foreign Armys express their thirstiness ? with sincerity? openly lustful thoughts, funny sexual jokes, like Kai’s fans do? Korean Armys probably envy them because they cannot speak openly about their fantasies :P Ha… in conclusion, let’s become pure BTS stansã… ã… ã… jungkook only recently became of age though if i'm not wrong. kai is an adult. and sometimes these fans tweet these things. BTS actually reads their tweets sometimes so it's just... not a good look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brittany 8,837 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 What really irritates me is that alot of international armys comment on every youtube video about BTS or how it relates to BTS when the video has no correlation to BTS at all à think this has been blown out of proportion by bandwagoners. Honestly, I'm not kidding when I say that kpop fans do this all the time. Just a few days ago there were some memes on Mangafox and people were bringing in kpop pictures of VIXX as ''humanized'' versions of these characters. And it's not like non-kpop fans are going to be bothered by it. If you're a non-kpop fan, and you see a comment about something you don't know, you're going to ignore it. Plus, it does have good effects: For example, I came to like 2NE1 after their fans kept on coming to Soshi videos when I was a really really new weeks-old kpop fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
вeĸy 3,926 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 à think this has been blown out of proportion by bandwagoners. Honestly, I'm not kidding when I say that kpop fans do this all the time. Just a few days ago there were some memes on Mangafox and people were bringing in kpop pictures of VIXX as a ''humanized'' version of these characters. And it's not like non-kpop fans are going to be bothered by it. If you see a comment about something you don't know, you usually ignore it. Plus, it does have good effects: For example, I came to like 2NE1 after their fans kept on coming to Soshi videos when I was a really early kpop fan. Agree,I don't think it's that big deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adda 9,200 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 jungkook only recently became of age though if i'm not wrong. kai is an adult. and sometimes these fans tweet these things. BTS actually reads their tweets sometimes so it's just... not a good look I just think Koreans fans have their obsession for purity, all idols have to uphold an image of innocence and purity , while foreign fans have a more diversified sense of humor, they enjoy any kind of joke about their favorites, including sexual jokes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brittany 8,837 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I just think Koreans fans have their obsession for purity, all idols have to uphold an image of innocence and purity , while foreign fans have a more diversified sense of humor, they enjoy any kind of joke about their favorites, including sexual jokes. Lol, I was surprised to know that they hated crack ships. Fans doing crack ships were mentioned in that list of what they hated about us. Strange, because they're relatively harmless. Delulu ships are funny, if anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adda 9,200 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Lol, I was surprised to know that they hated crack ships. Fans doing crack ships were mentioned in that list of what they hated about us. Strange, because they're relatively harmless. Delulu ships are funny, if anything. of course delulu ships are funny. Yesterday I saw Irene with V, and they kinda looked good together. ( it was nicely done, good photoshop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOOLY 33,373 Posted October 4, 2015 Author Share Posted October 4, 2015 I just think Koreans fans have their obsession for purity, all idols have to uphold an image of innocence and purity , while foreign fans have a more diversified sense of humor, they enjoy any kind of joke about their favorites, including sexual jokes. I also agree with this, but a thing are sexual jokes, and a thing is being explicitly nasty... especially towards underage idols. The pann post is kinda over exagerating... thirstying a bit isn't a crime. But there is a time and place to be imo. And that is not under the idols SNS posts where they can read... that's pretty embarassing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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